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You may want to check out specs of each GPU in the link above. Mobility HD 5800 series chips have 800 SPs, Mobility HD 5700 and Mobility HD 5600 have 400, Mobility HD 5400 have 80...

AMD did to Mobility HD 5000 what NVIDIA did to GeForce M GTX 200 series.
 

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Unfortunately i havent memorised the 5K cards specs yet.

Radeon 5870 desktop:
* 1600 Stream Processing Units
* 80 Texture Units
* 128 Z/Stencil ROP Units
* 32 Color ROP Units



5870 Mobility:

* 800 Stream Processing Units
* 40 Texture Units
* 64 Z/Stencil ROP Units
* 16 Color ROP Units


Oh dear god... they cut it in half! shame!
 
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Unfortunately i havent memorised the 5K cards specs yet.

Radeon 5870 desktop:
* 1600 Stream Processing Units
* 80 Texture Units
* 128 Z/Stencil ROP Units
* 32 Color ROP Units



5870 Mobility:

* 800 Stream Processing Units
* 40 Texture Units
* 64 Z/Stencil ROP Units
* 16 Color ROP Units


Oh dear god... they cut it in half! shame!
so it should be as good as one of the 5770s? :D
 

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so it should be as good as one of the 5770s? :D
* 800 Stream Processing Units
* 40 Texture Units
* 64 Z/Stencil ROP Units
* 16 Color ROP Units



it *is* a 5770 :S







PCI-E 2.1?
 
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* 800 Stream Processing Units
* 40 Texture Units
* 64 Z/Stencil ROP Units
* 16 Color ROP Units



it *is* a 5770 :S
:roll:
i wasn't aware of the 5770 specification :)
 
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Well, it is certainly a letdown, but it kinda makes sense.

Notebook cooling is nowhere near efficient as desktops are. But a 5770 for a notebook, that sounds pretty sweet to me.
 

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I agree with 2nd floor,a too castrated edition unlike Mobility Radeon HD 4000 series,disappointing.:nutkick:
 

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a 5770 is enough balls for a laptop - if only they'd stuck with that name
 

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#11
You may want to check out specs of each GPU in the link above. Mobility HD 5800 series chips have 800 SPs, Mobility HD 5700 and Mobility HD 5600 have 400, Mobility HD 5400 have 80...

AMD did to Mobility HD 5000 what NVIDIA did to GeForce M GTX 200 series.

You gotta be kidding; check this out!

Raedon Mobility HD 5870;

Speeds & Feeds
Engine clock speed: 700 MHz
Processing power (single precision): 1.12 TeraFLOPS
Polygon throughput: 700M polygons/sec
Data fetch rate (32-bit): 112 billion fetches/sec
Texel fill rate (bilinear filtered): 28 Gigatexels/sec
Pixel fill rate: 11.2 Gigapixels/sec
Anti-aliased pixel fill rate: 44.8 Gigasamples/sec
Memory clock speed: 1.0 GHz
Memory data rate: 4.0 Gbps
Memory bandwidth: 64 GB/sec
TDP: 50 Watts

That on a laptop, my desktop is crying.
 
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You may want to check out specs of each GPU in the link above. Mobility HD 5800 series chips have 800 SPs, Mobility HD 5700 and Mobility HD 5600 have 400, Mobility HD 5400 have 80...

AMD did to Mobility HD 5000 what NVIDIA did to GeForce M GTX 200 series.
Well, you didn't expect the mobile part to have same specs as desktop one...
That would melt laptop to a pile of goo.
 

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well . . . . amd has pulled an nvidia on us, the future of mobility dosen't look too good now.
 

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Well, you didn't expect the mobile part to have same specs as desktop one...
That would melt laptop to a pile of goo.
No, I did, because Mobility HD 4870 had nearly the same specs as the desktop part, and the AMD RV770 (HD 4870) has nearly the same thermal characteristics as the AMD Cypress (desktop HD 5870). No laptops melted.
 
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Well, you didn't expect the mobile part to have same specs as desktop one...
That would melt laptop to a pile of goo.
Ever tried W90VP ?

No.

4870 Crossfire!

Not same specs as desktop(lower clock)

But the point is:
Nvidia started doing rebrand (Lets for god sake it doesnt get worse than this with ati)
They are actually using 5770 in laptops and not 4870.
GTX260M = 9800GT for those who still doesnt know.

Anyways, dont like this, but i think nvidia kinda pushed it on them.
Still easy for us who know it, since every model is one 5X70 (X) under the desktop counterpart.
but still not right...
 

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Ever tried W90VP ?

No.

4870 Crossfire!

Not same specs as desktop(lower clock)

But the point is:
Nvidia started doing rebrand (Lets for god sake it doesnt get worse than this with ati)
They are actually using 5770 in laptops and not 4870.
GTX260M = 9800GT for those who still doesnt know.

Anyways, dont like this, but i think nvidia kinda pushed it on them.
Still easy for us who know it, since every model is one 5X70 (X) under the desktop counterpart.
but still not right...
nvidia started rebranding a long time ago. Geforce 4MX line? yeah, geforce 2 rebadge.


Same card @ lower clocks was expected and accepted in laptop cards, at least.

Calling two cards the same name, when one is literally half the other is completely wrong. (Nvidia does worse, but this is still unacceptable)
 
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Even if they did cut it back so what.It will still be a monster in a laptop.

Id trade my HD4570 for a crippled HD5870 any day :nutkick:
 

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Only reason these cards are not matching their desktop counterparts is because of the thermal constraints found in a laptop.

You would have to run a box fan or a blow drier fan underneath just to expel the heat and that would make your balls sweat more.

The last time a Desktop and laptop video card matched as of Specs other than clock speed was the Radeon 9800 and M18 (MR9800) from 2002-2004. The M18 was found in the Dell Inspiron 9100/XPS Gen 1, which in fact was a Desktop Replacement/Hefty Laptop (Matched the weight of a Toughbook without the ruggedization). I found out the M18 was based on a newer process than the Desktop Part which was actually the AGP Radeon x800 series (R420). At that time it was possible to do that with video cards being released at a pace that was somewhat slow. Also the only way to obtain maximum performance is to have the devices hooked up to a power source other than a battery.

Since I knew about the M18 being based upon the R420 I attempted a Mod Bios flash to see if I could open more pixel pipelines- which to amazement it failed resulting in replacing the video card (500 USD at the time- OUCH!).
 

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Only reason these cards are not matching their desktop counterparts is because of the thermal constraints found in a laptop.
Orly? Where were these constraints with Mobility HD 4870? Like I said, RV770 has nearly the same thermals as Cypress, so that argument doesn't count.
 

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Why cant they name the current 5800M into 5700M instead to avoid confusion (and fooling the consumers)? Now everyone is pulling a Nvidia! or they are trying to release a 5900M which is equal to 5800 and 6000M which is actually 5900?
 

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Orly? Where were these constraints with Mobility HD 4870? Like I said, RV770 has nearly the same thermals as Cypress, so that argument doesn't count.
thats exactly what i'm gonna ask amd later :)
 

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Why cant they name the current 5800M into 5700M instead to avoid confusion (and fooling the consumers)? Now everyone is pulling a Nvidia! or they are trying to release a 5900M which is equal to 5800 and 6000M which is actually 5900?
I think its the hype - when average consumers look on a Alienware website (or any other OEMs that makes gaming laptops) & they see one with a 5870mobility - they will jump hoops thinking its almost as powerful as the desktop 5870 but in which case its only half the card the real 5870 is....

pittyful really. but i agree - they give it the name of a top class performing card only to water it down by quite a bit.

lackluster. Im sure it will run games decent enough though but its not the ultimate performance one would think if he just just looking at it from a retailers website
 

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so is the mobile 5870 only slightly better than the 4870M? Because it's a 5770 and 5770 is about the 4870 in performance.