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For at least the last 15 years people wanting from AMD to
- offer much cheaper options
- be almost as good as Intel's and Nvidia's to force those companies to lower prices
- but not be equal or better than Intel's or Nvidia's, because they still wanted to feel that buying Nvidia or Intel hardware puts them on the top class, gives them the right to laugh at those "poor people buying AMD hardware"
AMD tried their best all those years to get market share and support. They managed to do that in CPUs, not just because they where offering better CPUs, but because Intel was going from one disaster to the next. Intel was pushing 300W to win in gaming and people still preferred Intel. They failed in GPUs. Not because they had much worst products, but because the average online person was too friendly to Nvidia, too hostile to AMD. The last 15 years people keep finding excuses to NOT buy AMD hardware. They keep playing the same song "Make good enough products, so I can buy Nvidia, because I better cut my hand than touching an AMD GPU".
In many cases AMD was offering better products at better pricing. But people where always trying to find an excuse to pay more to Nvidia to get less. RX 6600 vs RTX 3050 is a major example. RTX 3050 more expensive, much slower, it probably sold 10 times more than RX 6600. There will always be an excuse. And every excuse will be "HUGE" reason to not buy AMD.
The Radeon division was in a much stronger spot 15 years ago compared to the CPU division. It was Nvidia's Maxwell that really started turning the screws on them, and then Pascal pretty much wiped them out from mid/high-end relevance. Nvidia's product was just better. Significantly more power efficient, more stable drivers, and priced reasonably well. And just for the sake of mentioning it, back at that point I was still a pretty hardcore team red fanboy, arguing with people about why the R9-290 was a no-brainer compared to the GTX 970.
One thing that often doesn't get brought up in these kinds of discussions though it's how specifically relevant all of those factors are for major OEMs looking to sign supply agreements for dGPUs. If you're a Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc, lower power consumption means cost savings on power supplies and cooling, more stable drivers means lower tech support costs. If you're looking at cards like the 3050 and wondering how it has such a massive install-base lead over something like the 6600, a lot of that is going to be down to OEM choices, because that's where the bulk of those cards are going.
Your argument is basically boiling down to "everyone else seems to be an idiot and I'm the only one seeing clearly here". You treat yourself as thinking rationally about the situation, but judge everyone who comes to a different conclusion as being irrational. Once you re-frame it to see everyone as trying to act in their own rational self interest to the best of their abilities, you might be surprised at how much better all the pieces suddenly seem to fit in.