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Are components with high power draw an issue for you?

Are components with high power draw an issue for you?

  • No, I don't care

    Votes: 3,199 14.5%
  • Yes (power bill)

    Votes: 7,382 33.5%
  • Yes (heat)

    Votes: 6,286 28.5%
  • Yes (noise)

    Votes: 2,683 12.2%
  • Yes (environment)

    Votes: 2,490 11.3%

  • Total voters
    22,040
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You shouldn't really buy high-end GPU with a 550W PSU anyways, even if said high-end GPU has TDP of 250W it might have big power spikes.
That is true, and I don't intend to buy one mainly because I don't need one. :ohwell:

3080 FE cost the same as 1080Ti FE, runs cooler and quieter while offering 85% more FPS at 4K, who cares if it use 70W more?
I do. Not only because of my PSU limitations, but also because the conducted heat has to go somewhere. It doesn't matter much in a full-size ATX tower, but I like small and compact systems where space and cooling options are limited. Running your GPU cool is one thing, but what does it matter if it heats up your other components?

Well AIB like to reuse PCB designs as much as possible to cut down cost, so you will have to pay extra for GPU without power connector (like the A2000), which I don't think is worth it.
The Palit card I linked has the same PCB design as the reference 1050 Ti as far as I know, so there was no cost involved in designing it.
 
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I do. Not only because of my PSU limitations, but also because the conducted heat has to go somewhere. It doesn't matter much in a full-size ATX tower, but I like small and compact systems where space and cooling options are limited. Running your GPU cool is one thing, but what does it matter if it heats up your other components?


The Palit card I linked has the same PCB design as the reference 1050 Ti as far as I know, so there was no cost involved in designing it.

Maybe you should look at Intel 12th NUC, it looks mighty fine to me

The palit card you linked cost 20usd more than MSRP and is slower than other 1050Ti, most importantly it's too slow for anything (couldn't even get 60FPS at 1080p in any game), it's just as useless as the 6500XT no matter how efficient it was. This is like putting a scooter engine in a car, efficient but completely useless for the task (and just ruin the whole car)
 
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Maybe you should look at Intel 12th NUC, it looks mighty fine to me
Modern NUCs are lovely! If I didn't have my desktop PC, I'd definitely get my hands on one. :)

The palit card you linked cost 20usd more than MSRP and is slower than other 1050Ti, most importantly it's too slow for anything (couldn't even get 60FPS at 1080p in any game), it's just as useless as the 6500XT no matter how efficient it was. This is like putting a scooter engine in a car, efficient but completely useless for the task (and just ruin the whole car)
I disagree. It's only slower if you don't have proper case ventilation and let it throttle. It's not meant for test bench conditions with no air flow. I absolutely loved mine and it was plenty enough for contemporary games back in the days. In my opinion, 20 USD is worth it for the peace of mind that its fan will never fail (because it doesn't have one). Although, I'm not a "60 fps or nothing" kind of guy, so there's that. :ohwell:
 
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Modern NUCs are lovely! If I didn't have my desktop PC, I'd definitely get my hands on one. :)


I disagree. It's only slower if you don't have proper case ventilation and let it throttle. It's not meant for test bench conditions with no air flow. I absolutely loved mine and it was plenty enough for contemporary games back in the days. In my opinion, 20 USD is worth it for the peace of mind that its fan will never fail (because it doesn't have one). Although, I'm not a "60 fps or nothing" kind of guy, so there's that. :ohwell:

Yeah I'm a "if all I get is shitty gaming experience, I would rather not game at all" kind of guy, that's why I only game on my main PC, console and mobile gaming do not interest me (kinda like how W1zzard feel about the Steam Deck). The slowest GPU I would put in a new build for anyone is an RTX2060 6GB.

Now that I think about it, the Xbox Series X/S probably killed the market for low power gaming PC
 
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Yeah I'm a "if all I get is shitty gaming experience, I would rather not game at all" kind of guy, that's why I only game on my main PC, console and mobile gaming do not interest me (kinda like how W1zzard feel about the Steam Deck). The slowest GPU I would put in a new build for anyone is an RTX2060 6GB.
Everyone defines a "shitty experience" in a different way. I don't play online shooters, so a stable 30-40 fps is enough for me.

I agree about the 2060 as being the slowest minimum, mainly because it's faster than the 3050, the 6500 XT is a piece of rubbish, and there is nothing cheaper than these at the moment.

Now that I think about it, the Xbox Series X/S probably killed the market for low power gaming PC
I'm not sure. Consoles existed even before the Xbox Series X/S alongside low power gaming. I think it's recent market conditions and nvidia/AMD's greed that killed it.
 

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IDK what you are talking about, my 3090 runs fine at stock with a 750W Gold PSU (which is the recommended PSU wattage for 3090). There is no reason to run my 3090 at stock because I can run stock clocks with -125mV on it, cutting power consumption by ~100W

These big and chunky GPUs cut down noise to a considerable degree, both Nvidia and AMD have upped their thermal solutions this generation that their 300W+ GPU run cooler and quieter than their past top dog GPUs (this force AIBs to improve their cooling solutions too).
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IMO I prefer every GPU come with 2x8pin PCIe power connectors no matter their TDP since every PSU come with piggyback PCIe power connector anyways, it looks stupid to leave some cable hanging out (make me wanna cut those cable), and yeah my 3090 has 2x8pin PCIe power too
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You are complaing about 2x8 pcie connectors being messy, when you own a god damm rtx 3090, most people dream to have that card, and yet you cannot afford cable extensions smh
 
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You are complaing about 2x8 pcie connectors being messy, when you own a god damm rtx 3090, most people dream to have that card, and yet you cannot afford cable extensions smh

I do have cable extension LOL, that's also the reason I'm not pushing more power to this 3090 than necessary for fear of burning the extensions :roll:.
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Also I never said anything about 2x8 PCIe connectors being messy, I was saying it should be the standard for all GPU. The new PCIe gen5 standard is much nicer in that regard, only 1 cable.
 
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I do have cable extension LOL, that's also the reason I'm not pushing more power to this 3090 than necessary for fear of burning the extensions :roll:.
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Also I never said anything about 2x8 PCIe connectors being messy, I was saying it should be the standard for all GPU. The new PCIe gen5 standard is much nicer in that regard, only 1 cable.
I have cable extension white cable sleeve for my whole build,, and never had a problem and yes i am not pusihing 300 to 450 watts on the gpu of course, but make sure there good quality cables16 gauge with good reviews, i dont see the problem hear, also you're saying you would not game on anything less the a rtx 2060 6gb, you're coming from a rtx 3090 of course you woudl think like that, but there are many video cards out there thats slower thena rtx 2060 6gb and can game at 1080p 60 plus fps all day long on most games

I have cable extension white cable sleeve for my whole build,, and never had a problem and yes i am not pusihing 300 to 450 watts on the gpu of course, but make sure there good quality cables16 gauge with good reviews, i dont see the problem hear, also you're saying you would not game on anything less the a rtx 2060 6gb, you're coming from a rtx 3090 of course you woudl think like that, but there are many video cards out there thats slower thena rtx 2060 6gb and can game at 1080p 60 plus fps all day long on most games
And FYI i did push my rx 580 8gb to 1600mhz on the core to try to beat world records benchmarking, and i was pushing close 300 watts on the gpu come to think about , and cables ext never got hot or even warm to touch

I do have cable extension LOL, that's also the reason I'm not pushing more power to this 3090 than necessary for fear of burning the extensions :roll:.
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Also I never said anything about 2x8 PCIe connectors being messy, I was saying it should be the standard for all GPU. The new PCIe gen5 standard is much nicer in that regard, only 1 cable.
you should be using proper cables sleeves for those black cables, and the nutuha fans is blowing warm air on the gpu, such a werid custom water config setup no offense
 
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I have cable extension white cable sleeve for my whole build,, and never had a problem and yes i am not pusihing 300 to 450 watts on the gpu of course, but make sure there good quality cables16 gauge with good reviews, i dont see the problem hear, also you're saying you would not game on anything less the a rtx 2060 6gb, you're coming from a rtx 3090 of course you woudl think like that, but there are many video cards out there thats slower thena rtx 2060 6gb and can game at 1080p 60 plus fps all day long on most games


And FYI i did push my rx 580 8gb to 1600mhz on the core to try to beat world records benchmarking, and i was pushing close 300 watts on the gpu come to think about , and cables ext never got hot or even warm to touch


you should be using proper cables sleeves for those black cables, and the nutuha fans is blowing warm air on the gpu, such a werid custom water config setup no offense

I can push my 3090 up to 520W for benchmarks too, would not push that high for everyday gaming though.

I have phanteks cable extension, probably good quality but any extension is bad because it add more failure point (connectors).

I have dual 360mm rads with 3 top exhaust and 3 bottom intake, so yeah not so weird custom water config.
 
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I can push my 3090 up to 520W for benchmarks too, would not push that high for everyday gaming though.

I have phanteks cable extension, probably good quality but any extension is bad because it add more failure point (connectors).

I have dual 360mm rads with 3 top exhaust and 3 bottom intake, so yeah not so weird custom water config.
Still i never heard anyone saying they wold not use aynthing less the a RTX 2060 6gb for gaming you're the first but each to there own
 
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Still i never heard anyone saying they wold not use aynthing less the a RTX 2060 6gb for gaming you're the first but each to there own

would not build a new PC with anything less than the RTX2060, since 1660S and 3050 are pretty much the same price as 2060 right now.

If you build a new gaming PC with 1650S or 6500XT or slower, that's just crazy.
 
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would not build a new PC with anything less than the RTX2060, since 1660S and 3050 are pretty much the same price as 2060 right now.

If you build a new PC with 1650S or 6500XT or slower, that's just crazy.
You're missing other video cards like gtx 1060 1070 1070 ti,1080, or amd vega 56 or 64, rx 470/480 rx 570580 /and rx 5500xt rx 5600xt

The only thing i agree with you on is the Amd rx 6500xt garbage just like the Nvidia 1030 gt

You're missing other video cards like gtx 1060 1070 1070 ti,1080, or amd vega 56 or 64, rx 470/480 rx 570580 /and rx 5500xt rx 5600xt

The only thing i agree with you on is the Amd rx 6500xt garbage just like the Nvidia 1030 gt
And more cards i forgot gtx 1650 or super, all the cards i mentioned are capable of 1080 60 fps on most games, so i think you need to give you're head a shake lol
 
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You're missing other video cards like gtx 1060 1070 1070 ti,1080, or amd vega 56 or 64, rx 470/480 rx 570580 /and rx 5500xt rx 5600xt

The only thing i agree with you on is the Amd rx 6500xt garbage just like the Nvidia 1030 gt

And more cards i forgot gtx 1650 or super, all the cards i mentioned are capable of 1080 60 fps on most games, so i think you need to give you're head a shake lol

Yeah sure spend 200usd+ for used mining GPUs sound great, meanwhile Nvidia is still making brand new 2060 6GB you know.
 
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Yeah sure spend 200usd+ for used mining GPUs sound great, meanwhile Nvidia is still making brand new 2060 6GB you know.
Ya i know there still making 2060 6gb and the new 12gb models, and not all used gpu's are mined on, man you are blind lol, i am talking to a 3090 snob hear lol , and last you can buy used gpu's cheaper then 200 usd and i missed other cards gtx 980 ti/ 980 or gtx 970

On top of that, not everyone can afford even a gtx 2060, and you don't need spend a a lot of money just to play pc games, and most people are happy with 1080p 60 plus fps that don't care as long as it works and the game is playable
 
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Ya i know there still making 2060 6gb and the new 12gb models, and not all used gpu's are mined on, man you are blind lol, i am talking to a 3090 snob hear lol , and last you can buy used gpu's cheaper then 200 usd and i missed other cards gtx 980 ti/ 980 or gtx 970

On top of that, not everyone can afford even a gtx 2060, and you don't need spend a a lot of money just to play pc games, and most people are happy with 1080p 60 plus fps that don't care as long as it works and the game is playable

Ya mad? just buy a new Xbox one S and Gamepass, problem solved.
 
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Ya mad? just buy a new Xbox one S and Gamepass, problem solved.
Good answer sir bounce around all my question cause you damm well know i am right 100%

There is nothing wrong with consoles they have a place on the market, some prefer consoles or just don't know any better etc
 
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Good answer sir bounce around all my question cause you damm well know i am right 100%

There is nothing wrong with consoles they have a place on the market, some prefer consoles or just don't know any better etc

Nah I know you are 100% wrong since buying 6-8 year old GPU is a good idea to you LMAO.

I think console is killing the low end gaming PC too, there is no way around that. Nothing beat the gaming value of Xbox + Gamepass right now.
 
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Nah I know you are 100% wrong since buying 6-8 year old GPU is a good idea to you LMAO.

I think console is killing the low end gaming PC too, there is no way around that. Nothing beat the gaming value of Xbox + Gamepass right now.
You're so damm Blind man its really funny lmao, all you are doing is making you're self look bad dude anyways this debate is over i don't waste my time on idiots you have you're self a very nice day
 
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You're so damm Blind man its really funny lmao, all you are doing is making you're self look bad dude anyways this debate is over i don't waste my time on idiots you have you're self a very nice day

yeah sure just try to spend more on education, you definitely need it more than gaming PC ;)
 
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Someone has raised a motion in UK parliament to ban crypto mining due to current energy crisis, so we kind of heading in the direction of PC power use becoming a thing now.
 
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Heat kills electrical components... that heat unless vastly tamed don't just affect your gpu.
There are so many great cases and cooling options that heat is only a problem for people who don't know what they are doing or who don't properly plan out their build. It's easy to run a 1000W PC and never have a component running above 70C.
 
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Yes to everything except the no, I don't care are active concerns and considerations. I don't know why anyone would want any of those in exchange for what accounts for a rather negligible performance uptick. There is a point where you've crossed the line and rational expectations in terms of performance gains are thrown out the window. This sort of thing wouldn't be debated in other instances like EMI with FCC standards. It's shortsighted for this to be overlooked simply because the long term impact isn't so transparent.

There are subtleties to this all, but cumulatively they add up to a great deal and the impact on the power grid and strain on it that is increasingly getting more heavily loaded isn't a good thing and will cost everyone more if we just leave these issues unchecked. It's becoming it's own issues and problem similar to the auto industry in it's own right. It's might be as bad at this stage, but it's growing worse not better. The first few automobiles weren't exactly the problem they've become today.
 

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Most complained about the R9 290s being hot, this takes the cake in heat/power hogging, 1000 watts for a single card!?
 
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It doesnt bother me, for two reasons:

A) I remember building high end rigs with TRI SLId 480s back in high school with my buddies, complete with OCed 980s. Pulling 250w+ on a CPU isnt anything new, neither are GPUs pushing 400w. This was the era that birthed both the half X case from cooler master and the first 2kW PSUs. This was also the era where OCing a 590 would result in the VRM exploding. So those complaining about power usage and heat output are likely the SAME people that 14 years ago were complaining about the power use and heat output of SLI rigs as if every gaming PC was a space heater.

The vast majority of users are not buying this stuff, for enthusiasts these heat issues and power draw are nothing new, and if anything managing a single GPU that can spike to 600w is a LOT easier then managing 3 400+w OCed watercooled 480s at a time where power supplies, cases, and motherboards were not built with this in mind, and liquid cooling was in its infancy compared to today's ready made solutions. Mainstream stuff like the 6700xt, the 3060ti, the 12400f and the 5600x are not burning up these kinds of numbers, and that mainstream hardware makes up most new gaming PCs.

B) the other complaint is power usage and the environment. Bro, if you're worried about power usage, let me introduce you to: air conditioning, space heaters, dishwashers, electric ovens, and the environmentalist's new boy toy; electric cars. Gaming GPUs are a tiny blip on the radar of energy usage, they're dwarfed by HVAC in total power usage and are fairly rare in the grand scheme of things. Like, me gaming on my PC for multiple hours a day in the winter with nothing else to do? my electric bill is $32 a month. In august, when I'm working outside and hardly touch the PC all month? $176 a month, all over that AC running. And I have a relatively small house, bigger homes can break $300.

Look up how much power a tesla needs to drive 10 miles, look at the governments and individuals pushing HARD for EVs everywhere. I'll save you the google search, a tesla model S uses roughly 3000-3200 watts to travel 10 miles. Traveling 60 MPH means burning up 20,000 watts per hour. And this is the "solution" that will save the planet. Now, that 400 watt 3090 is an issue....why?

Yeah compared to that a gamer using a 400w GPU for a few hours a day really doesnt matter. At all. Commenters will often bring up miners as well in the GPU talk in regards to energy usage, yeah miners use a lot, they are also not comparable to gamers at all. That's like comparing a nascar race to the drive to work in fuel usage. Totally different applications. If one is worried about the environment there are entire FORESTS of low hanging fruit to cut first.
 
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