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Dehx said:Oblivion runs on my PC @ 1280x720 widescreen with 4xAA and 16xAF and HDR , everything maxed out on my X1900XTX and loads faster and runs better than it does on the XBOX 360.
Oh, and just so everyone knows for sure.
What is contained in the XBOX 360 is as close to a X1900 as anything.
from : http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/xbox360/nextgengraphics.htm
From ATI's website, for the X1900XTX (which runs as 650 Mhz btw, not 500 Mhz like the X360.. shhesh, even the X1900XT runs faster.)
http://www.ati.com/products/RadeonX1900/Products.html
http://www.ati.com/products/radeonx1900/radeonx1900xtx/specs.html
http://www.ati.com/products/RadeonX1900/specs.html
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bigboi86 said:http://www.behardware.com/articles/...tx-x1900-xt-and-x1900-crossfire-in-tests.html
That's a good article. Kind of hard to understand though.
Anyways, with two x1900's in crossfire, I think that would shame the xbox360.
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AMDCam said:No one's talked about this dumbass thing?
Dude, a Vertex Shader and a Pipeline are 2 totally different things man. It's got 16 pipes and 48 vertex shaders. Nice but that's NOT 48 pipes. If it was, with ATI's architecture, a 48-pipe X1900 would eat everything on the market alive, there is NO class that could stand up to it.
And a Crossfire X1900XT I guarantee will be gone (to compete with the 360) in less than 2 years, first off it doesn't have DX10 and second off performance-wise, I'd say a Crossfire X1900XT pack is pretty much exactly on par with a custom-for-360 made Xbox 360 game, and that's only right now, I mean developers are still half-assing ports and 360 games. If the Xbox can pull off Doom 3 when PC users needed a full 4-or-more times as powerful (as the Xbox's GPU) card to handle the same graphics, I'm about 1000% sure Crossfire X1900's are not gonna stand up to the 360 in the future. Not just cause of the software requirements (SM 4, Direct X 10), but because even specs-wise it's only about 160% more powerful than the single-card 360, and seeing as how the original Xbox's hardware was a couple years BEHIND computers when it was released and STILL needed 4x less power than PC's to do the same stuff, imagine what the ahead-of-every-computer-available (3-core processor, more powerful than X1900XTX graphics card) 360 will need to have computers compare.
teamxbox.com said:Custom ATI Graphics Processor:
500 MHz
10 MB embedded DRAM
48-way parallel floating-point dynamically-scheduled shader pipelines Unified shader architecture
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bigboi86 said:First off, the XBOX when it first came out WAS more powerful than the average PC. It had a Geforce 2 graphics card in it and at the time of development that was some of the fastest graphics available. It didn't take long for PC's to surpass that.
I expected PC's now to do the same thing when the XBOX 360 was first coming out, and now they are catching up. Within this next year Xbox 360 wont be able to touch PC graphics.
AMDCam, you are obviously mistaken what pixel pipelines are.
Features:
384 million transistors on 90nm
fabrication process
48 pixel shader processors
8 vertex shader processors
256-bit 8-channel GDDR3
memory interface
Native PCI Express x16 bus interface
Nowhere did I say a pixel pipeline was a vertex shader.
Can you see a similarity? No?
bigboi86 said:
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AMDCam said:oh okay fine, the high resolution is one thing. But still, could your 9600 run Doom 3 with Ultra quality?
And that's EXACTLY what I was saying about the 360's GPU. It might be CLOSE to an X1900XTX, but it's still got even more advanced features and is more powerful.
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The xbox couldnt run ultra because all it is is high optimized for 512 mb of video ram. On the other hand, it ran whatever they optimized pretty well at the crap resolution of tv's.AMDCam said:oh okay fine, the high resolution is one thing. But still, could your 9600 run Doom 3 with Ultra quality?
And that's EXACTLY what I was saying about the 360's GPU. It might be CLOSE to an X1900XTX, but it's still got even more advanced features and is more powerful.
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Xbox 360 CAN run at a higher resolution, but thats only if you have a HDTV. And 720p still isnt as good as crt's, since tv resolution is measured in the vertical lines not horizontal,Satchmo said:that is true TV resolution is extremely low.
xbox 360 runs nativly at a slightly higher resolution than most CRT moniters.
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Blurring would look horrible on the smaller sized, yet higher resolution pc monitors. You already have a small space to define a line, now blur it even slightly and it gets very hard to tell whats going on. It works for TV's because you have a lot more room to work with.AMDCam said:why not? it's a REALLY effective effect if that's all it does. and monitors and TV's are the same technology so why not?