ASRock is Expected to Launch Multiple Gaming Monitors

[TheLostSwede]

Several new ASRock products have passed through the KCC, which is the Korean equivalent of the FCC and normally this would be a new motherboard or maybe some small form factor system, but surprisingly enough, we're looking at gaming monitors. The leak comes courtesy of @momomo_us who's dug up a lot of juicy details on two of the models, whereas we only know the basic specs for the other models. First up, we have the PG34WQ15R, which is a 34-inch curved VA display with a 3440x1440 resolution. It supports FreeSync Premium and has a refresh rate range of 48 to 165 Hz over DisplayPort and 48-100 Hz over HDMI, which seems to be an HDMI 1.4 limitation. The next model is the PG27FF, which is a regular 1080p IPS display that also supports FreeSync Premium, here with a refresh rate range of 48 to 165 Hz over both DP and HDMI. There appears to be multiple sub SKUs of this model, but all start with PG27F.

Then we have the PG32QF, which should be a flat 32-inch display, with unknown specs, but the Q in the model name suggests that it's a 1440p monitor. Finally we have the PG42U, where the U in the model name suggests it's a 4K 42-inch display. The stand looks nearly identical to the one ASUS uses for its ROG Strix XG43UQ 4K screen and the specs are likely to be quite similar too, which means we might see support for 144 Hz or higher refresh rates. All four displays are manufactured by TPV Technology, which produces its own monitors under the AOC, Envision and Philips brands. It's unknown when these new monitors from ASRock will launch, but considering they've passed through certification, it's highly likely that they'll turn up sometime later this year.



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[Vario]

Nice to see a flat 32" display, hopefully it will have high refresh rate.

 

[King Mustard]

They're all getting in on the game.

 

[TheLostSwede]

They're all getting in on the game.

Everyone wants a slice of the cake, but the slices are getting thinner and thinner.
A bunch of me too products aren't going to win over any customers, unless they're significantly cheaper than the competition.

 

[mechtech]

Those looks like a glossy finish

Everyone wants a slice of the cake, but the slices are getting thinner and thinner.
A bunch of me too products aren't going to win over any customers, unless they're significantly cheaper than the competition.

Or significantly better, or newer or more options, etc.

 

[ZoneDymo]

are we sure these are actual monitors and not just an NFT of one? this is Asrock after all.

also who cares? more monitors wit hthe same specs and price as everyone else, boring.

Personally im waiting for Panasonic's 42 inch Oled

 

[ixi]

Full HD in 2022., nice. Are we going backwards in technology?

 

[TheLostSwede]

Or significantly better, or newer or more options, etc.

But then it's not a me too product.

Full HD in 2022., nice. Are we going backwards in technology?

Nah, we're just standing still, stomping in the same place.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Those looks like a glossy finish


Or significantly better, or newer or more options, etc.

I agree with D'Swede ( @TheLostSwede ), price is the foremost on consumers minds, anything else should be considered bonus. Myself, I would like a larger (current 27") monitor with at least 144Hz refresh and 1440p as the absolute minimum specs. Three 32" would be ideal.

 

[mechtech]

I agree with D'Swede ( @TheLostSwede ), price is the foremost on consumers minds, anything else should be considered bonus. Myself, I would like a larger (current 27") monitor with at least 144Hz refresh and 1440p as the absolute minimum specs. Three 32" would be ideal.

Interesting. I have a 27" and I feel its the limit for me, I could maybe go 32" but I would have to push it back further or sit further away. I'd personally prefer dual 22"-24" over this large 27" one. Now maybe a 36"-40" 3:2 screen would be nice, an ANSI D CAD drawing should fit in there pretty close at 1:1

But then it's not a me too product.

fair enough. But to me, if it's labelled/marketed at a "gaming" monitor, then it's a "me too" "gaming" monitor whether or not it comes with RGB/ARGB etc. lol

 

[Vario]

ASRock makes good motherboards in my experience, hopefully the screens will be decent.

DeathtoGnomes I agree with D'Swede ( @TheLostSwede ), price is the foremost on consumers minds, anything else should be considered bonus. Myself, I would like a larger (current 27") monitor with at least 144Hz refresh and 1440p as the absolute minimum specs. Three 32" would be ideal.

The S3220DGF I got a few years ago fits that. Looks like its been replaced with the S3222DGM. I wish it was a flat screen though.

 

[R0H1T]

Yay another one joins the gaming BS fad

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Interesting. I have a 27" and I feel its the limit for me, I could maybe go 32" but I would have to push it back further or sit further away. I'd personally prefer dual 22"-24" over this large 27" one. Now maybe a 36"-40" 3:2 screen would be nice, an ANSI D CAD drawing should fit in there pretty close at 1:1

My eyes are not what they were as 20 years ago, years of gaming on CRTs did wonders . I'd rather not have to squint and even with this 27" I still have to magnify text on some things. I honestly wouldnt mind having to push the monitor farther away, even this kitchen table I used for a desktop gets crowded.

Yay another one joins the gaming BS fad

fad?

 

[MentalAcetylide]

Unless this is typical of them, ASRock must be hitting rock bottom or leaning towards more minimalist atmospheres with regards to showing their products.

I'm also noticing on the screens, as someone else already pointed out, a high gloss. Yeah, I also don't like highly reflective screens. I mean, I can work with them, as its something we all had very little choice with back in the days of CRT monitors, but with the advent of low gloss 1080p monitors, I would pick them over a high reflective screen any day. The only possible exception is if it was a 34" 4k flat screen + 144(or greater) Gsync/Freesync refresh rate compatible + with the same color accuracy as a Dell PremierColor monitor. heh, tall order, but won't happen any time soon.

 

[bonehead123]

Yay another one joins the gaming BS fad

Yep, slap that g-w0rd on it, and suddenly, what's old/been around before is new again, only with a higher price, lower specs, shorter/crappier warranty & moar shittyier support

 

[Vayra86]

Everyone wants a slice of the cake, but the slices are getting thinner and thinner.
A bunch of me too products aren't going to win over any customers, unless they're significantly cheaper than the competition.

Me too products

Nice spin on that term, I like it better than the hashtagged version

Yep, slap that g-w0rd on it, and suddenly, what's old/been around before is new again, only with a higher price, lower specs, shorter/crappier warranty & moar shittyier support

Everyone calling himself a G is a lot of bling and no content, you know this

 

[trsttte]

Everyone wants a slice of the cake, but the slices are getting thinner and thinner.
A bunch of me too products aren't going to win over any customers, unless they're significantly cheaper than the competition.

The margins must be good enough for everyone to seemingly getting in. I hate this strategy of me too products like you called it, just more unsupported waste filling shelves and trying to bamboozle customers.

We need more stuff like the Sony Inzone monitors that came crashing out of nowhere but actually brought some improvements missing in the market, not the endless recycling of the same panels with the same lackluster specs

 

[mechtech]

and cooler master with the GM32-FQ

Most are just an LG, AUO, or Samsung panel.

What would be really nice if all monitors had to list the panel like this

Panel Manufacturer	LG.Display
Panel Technology	Nano IPS
Panel Part	LM270WR8-SSA1

Then one could look it up and get real/actual specs

138.199.40.1 - Please verify yourself to continue

www.panelook.com

 

[Chrispy_]

Curved 165Hz 3440x1440 could be interesting.

As always with VA, it needs an independent review to reveal the actual response times.

The manufacturer's claims are 100% bullshit - and that's a guarantee; The range of response times for VA panels can be "completely unusable, even for 24fps movies" to "Samsung Oddyssey G9".

and cooler master with the GM32-FQ

Most are just an LG, AUO, or Samsung panel.

What would be really nice if all monitors had to list the panel like this

Panel Manufacturer	LG.Display
Panel Technology	Nano IPS
Panel Part	LM270WR8-SSA1

Then one could look it up and get real/actual specs

138.199.40.1 - Please verify yourself to continue

www.panelook.com

It's not that simple though. Firmware is a huge deal - There are "do not buy" monitors that use the EXACT same panels as god-tier gaming monitors.

Firmware covers overdrive and therefore pixel response times, how well VRR works, backlight strobing, input lag, HDR quality, and stupid stuff like locking things you want like low input lag and VRR to hideous "game mode" enhancements that add sharpening filter, crappy oversaturation and hyped-up gamma curves.

Really, many panels are good enough these days. It's shitty firmware that is responsible for ruining so many potentially-decent monitors.

 

[Mistral]

Nice to see a flat 32" display, hopefully it will have high refresh rate.

Hopefully it'll be a 10-bit panel...

 

[Chrispy_]

Hopefully it'll be a 10-bit panel...

Why do you want a 10-bit panel for high-refresh?

Games rarely have proper 10-bit support and in every single case I can think of, 10-bit panels are slower than 8-bit panels.

 

[konga]

Any game that supports HDR should also support 10-bit. True 10-bit panels are usually slower not because the 10-bit aspect makes them slower, but because they're made for professionals who don't care about response times. It's possible to make true 10-bit panels with acceptable response times (such as the recent Neo G7/G8). (I say "true 10-bit" to make a distinction between those and monitors that simulate 10-bit with 8-bit + FRC)

It's not that simple though. Firmware is a huge deal - There are "do not buy" monitors that use the EXACT same panels as god-tier gaming monitors.

Firmware covers overdrive and therefore pixel response times, how well VRR works, backlight strobing, input lag, HDR quality, and stupid stuff like locking things you want like low input lag and VRR to hideous "game mode" enhancements that add sharpening filter, crappy oversaturation and hyped-up gamma curves.

Really, many panels are good enough these days. It's shitty firmware that is responsible for ruining so many potentially-decent monitors.

I mostly agree, though overdrive performance is frequently limited by panel characteristics. It would still be really useful to know exactly what panel each monitor uses before buying. I wish RTINGS or other reviewers provided this info, though I know it's not always easy to get.

 

[Chrispy_]

Any game that supports HDR should also support 10-bit. True 10-bit panels are usually slower not because the 10-bit aspect makes them slower, but because they're made for professionals who don't care about response times. It's possible to make true 10-bit panels with acceptable response times (such as the recent Neo G7/G8). (I say "true 10-bit" to make a distinction between those and monitors that simulate 10-bit with 8-bit + FRC)

I mostly agree, though overdrive performance is frequently limited by panel characteristics. It would still be really useful to know exactly what panel each monitor uses before buying. I wish RTINGS or other reviewers provided this info, though I know it's not always easy to get.

Yeah, there are many good VA panels ruined by lousy overdrive, but that doesn't mean there aren't also still a few slow panels that are either just bad or too old.

As for the 10-bit thing, a lot of them are 60Hz instead of 75Hz which is the default for non-gaming monitors. I wonder if that's because HDR + 10-bit is typically aimed at the content creators dealing with 60fps or 30fps footage.

 

[Mistral]

As for the 10-bit thing, a lot of them are 60Hz instead of 75Hz which is the default for non-gaming monitors. I wonder if that's because HDR + 10-bit is typically aimed at the content creators dealing with 60fps or 30fps footage.

No technical reasons for it, just manufacturers seemingly not understanding that there are plenty of content creators who also like to game.

 

[Testsubject01]

The margins must be good enough for everyone to seemingly getting in. I hate this strategy of me too products like you called it, just more unsupported waste filling shelves and trying to bamboozle customers.

We need more stuff like the Sony Inzone monitors that came crashing out of nowhere but actually brought some improvements missing in the market, not the endless recycling of the same panels with the same lackluster specs

Monitor market moves glacially slow for the past two decades. So slow, that the TV market started being a viable option with low latency OLED/ QD-OLED and Micro-LED panels in the past couple years.
Considering the ever-increasing prices for those miniscule improvements on new monitors, a 1000€ LG C2 (42' 4K) also seems like a bargain compared to similar 4K monitors.