Asus VG248QE 24-inch 144Hz, 1ms, 1080p LED TN panel (still worth it?)

[RodoGodo19]

• Ultra smooth action with 144Hz rapid refresh rate and 1ms (GTG) response time
• Full HD 1920x1080 for brilliant HD-quality visuals in both 2D and 3D. 80,000,000:1 ASUS Smart Contrast Ratio and 350cd/m² of brightness delivers true-to-life images
• A comfortable viewing experience with ergonomic tilt, swivel pivot, and height adjustment
• Built-in 2W stereo speakers for an immersive home entertainment experience
• Featuring DisplayPort, Dual-link DVI-D, and HDMI ports for multi device connections

Amazon: $249.00 & FREE Shipping
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-VG248QE-24-inch-Ergonomic-Back-lit/dp/B00B2HH7G0/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1457121333&sr=1-1&keywords=Asus+VG248QE

My PC:

• I7-6700
• 16GB
• Asus B150I Mini ITX
• EVGA GTX980ti Hybrid (G-SYNC)
• Dell 24-inch P2414H 1080p, 60hz, 8ms (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=320-9794)

There are IPS monitors with 1ms-4ms, 144hz-165hz from Asus, but they are very expensive and i can't afford it right now.
There is a guy who is selling 4 of this monitors in my country.

This monitor is TN, is not an IPS and doesn't have G-SYNC because it's an old model from Asus. Remember that my GPU has G-SYNC.

I can sell my current monitor to a friend today to buy the other one of above.

What do you think, is good?, or is better to wait until i can buy an IPS monitor with G-SYNC?.

 

[sttubs]

I have one of these and absolutely love it. I plan on buying a second for the kids gaming computer.

 

[RodoGodo19]

I have one of these and absolutely love it. I plan on buying a second for the kids gaming computer.

what about the g synk, is it worth it?.

 

[GhostRyder]

• Ultra smooth action with 144Hz rapid refresh rate and 1ms (GTG) response time
• Full HD 1920x1080 for brilliant HD-quality visuals in both 2D and 3D. 80,000,000:1 ASUS Smart Contrast Ratio and 350cd/m² of brightness delivers true-to-life images
• A comfortable viewing experience with ergonomic tilt, swivel pivot, and height adjustment
• Built-in 2W stereo speakers for an immersive home entertainment experience
• Featuring DisplayPort, Dual-link DVI-D, and HDMI ports for multi device connections

Amazon: $249.00 & FREE Shipping
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-VG248QE-24-inch-Ergonomic-Back-lit/dp/B00B2HH7G0/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1457121333&sr=1-1&keywords=Asus+VG248QE

My PC:

• I7-6700
• 16GB
• Asus B150I Mini ITX
• EVGA GTX980ti Hybrid (G-SYNC)
• Dell 24-inch P2414H 1080p, 60hz, 8ms (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=320-9794)

There are IPS monitors with 1ms-4ms, 144hz-165hz from Asus, but they are very expensive and i can't afford it right now.
There is a guy who is selling 4 of this monitors in my country.

This monitor is TN, is not an IPS and doesn't have G-SYNC because it's an old model from Asus. Remember that my GPU has G-SYNC.

I can sell my current monitor to a friend today to buy the other one of above.

What do you think, is good?, or is better to wait until i can buy an IPS monitor with G-SYNC?.

For the IPS part, I would say just save the money and get a TN because most of the TN's on these monitors are very good. Yea color reproduction is going to be a little bit better on the IPS but personally its not enough that I see them as night and day (Plus you get the better response time on the TN panels if that matters to you). I would also if your looking at 144hz to get G-Sync as it really does improve the quality of the performance in games IMHO. Most games don't hold 144hz very well even with OP GPU setups so having that extra makes the games feel constantly smooth which is why I personally like both Freesync and G-Sync.

This is all just my opinion of course.

Edit 1:Wait, I think this monitor is upgradeable to have G-Sync in it by buying the kit. Not sure if you can get the kits separately anymore but this one is one of the ones advertised as being able to be upgraded with it.

Edit 2: NVM, This is the one but you can no longer get those kits anymore so forget I mentioned it.

 

[sttubs]

I don't have G-Sync on mine but games are pretty consistent as far frame rates. My specs are listed to check out my hardware. Fill out your system specs. What video card do you have?

 

[RodoGodo19]

i7-6700
16gb
gtx980ti hybrid

i don't know if i should buy this asus or save money to buy a gsync one

 

[dont worth it]

dont worth it

 

[Kanan]

It's a good panel for that price. Only downside I see is that it misses a IPS or VA panel, but in exchange it's cheap (for a Asus monitor).

 

[Vayra86]

I would stay clear of TN if you are into a good image quality. Even good TN still suffers from viewing angle issues and that means colors/contrast will shift. TN also has edge backlight bleeding, however little it may be, and static contrast isn't great.

1ms versus 6-8ms of a simple IPS really won't be noticeable unless you game competitively. Are you really looking for a 120-144hz panel per se? Because if you are happy with 60 or 75 you have a far greater range of options. Also in graphically intensive games you will probably never hold stable 100+ fps, which kind of defeats the point.

Summary: this is a CS:Go panel.

 

[RodoGodo19]

I would stay clear of TN if you are into a good image quality. Even good TN still suffers from viewing angle issues and that means colors/contrast will shift. TN also has edge backlight bleeding, however little it may be, and static contrast isn't great.

1ms versus 6-8ms of a simple IPS really won't be noticeable unless you game competitively. Are you really looking for a 120-144hz panel per se? Because if you are happy with 60 or 75 you have a far greater range of options. Also in graphically intensive games you will probably never hold stable 100+ fps, which kind of defeats the point.

Summary: this is a CS:Go panel.

thanks, then i will save money for an IPS gaming monitor with g sync

 

[Vayra86]

I wouldn't go blindly for Gsync, but that's me. It's a pretty serious price premium. You could easily get 1440p60 at that price, and a very good one too.

Consider this: do you tweak your ingame options to get a constant 60/synced fps? If you do, it makes Gsync matter very little. Most Gsync panels also deny the use of backlight strobing (Lightboost, or some other variation of it) which means you have motion blur.

 

[Kanan]

Go for a monitor with 144Hz+ though, you should not miss out on high frequencies. It's more important than Gsync.

 

[Vayra86]

^ seconded. Above 100fps you will have a VERY difficult time detecting screen tear even if its there.

 

[RodoGodo19]

I wouldn't go blindly for Gsync, but that's me. It's a pretty serious price premium. You could easily get 1440p60 at that price, and a very good one too.

Consider this: do you tweak your ingame options to get a constant 60/synced fps? If you do, it makes Gsync matter very little. Most Gsync panels also deny the use of backlight strobing (Lightboost, or some other variation of it) which means you have motion blur.

Go for a monitor with 144Hz+ though, you should not miss out on high frequencies. It's more important than Gsync.

i have a gtx980ti hybrid
i7-6700
16gb

i don't know what to do really...

1. Asus VG248QE 24"
2. ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q 27"

 

[Kanan]

1. if you want a good enough monitor and save money.
2. if you want the "best" and pay for it too.



PS. I'd simply take a 27" IPS / 144 Hz and not care much about brand and how it looks. These ROG monitors are pretty expensive. I think Acer have some more affordable ones.

 

[trog100]

i have a 24 inch acer 144 TN 1080 panel.. i dont use it any more but it was a nice panel for gaming.. if you have the gpu power to keep the frame rates up i dont think you need g-sync..

i moved to a rog swift ips panel because i do photographic work.. the colors are nice enough on the TN panel just not exactly accurate.. having said that the colours on my rog panel aint accurate ether when set in a gaming mode.. but it does have the sRGB option which i use..

trog

 

[RodoGodo19]

i have a 24 inch acer 144 TN 1080 panel.. i dont use it any more but it was a nice panel for gaming.. if you have the gpu power to keep the frame rates up i dont think you need g-sync..

i moved to a rog swift ips panel because i do photographic work.. the colors are nice enough on the TN panel just not exactly accurate.. having said that the colours on my rog panel aint accurate ether when set in a gaming mode.. but it does have the sRGB option which i use..

trog

i have a gtx980ti hybrid, i think that i can game 144hz 1080p without any problem at all..
so what do you recommend me.... save money and buy the 24" or save more money to buy the rog ips 165hg?

i7-6700
16gb
gtx980ti hybrid
mini itx build

 

[GhostRyder]

i have a gtx980ti hybrid
i7-6700
16gb

i don't know what to do really...

1. Asus VG248QE 24"
2. ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q 27"

Based on my experience, I still say you should get G-Sync (Or Freesync) if you are gaming beyond 60hz (Well 75hz is still fine). The reason being even if you have a system that should be able to run at 144hz (1080p or 1440p) its still not going to be stable because games are not optimized to handle that area and each game reacts differently. Games like LoL are fine but for instance BF4 has dips and at 144hz having it skip to say 70 is very noticeable without it versus having it on. As for the IPS argument, again while I see the benefit I personally didn't care when gaming as the difference in color is not very noticeable most of the time in games (At least to me). That's mostly why I end up just buying the cheaper TN panel monitors instead of the IPS variants.

I think it would be better to save up and buy the G-Sync monitor, but that's my opinion based on my testing at 144hz. If you decide to just get a 1440p 60hz monitor, you don't need it.

 

[RodoGodo19]

Based on my experience, I still say you should get G-Sync (Or Freesync) if you are gaming beyond 60hz (Well 75hz is still fine). The reason being even if you have a system that should be able to run at 144hz (1080p or 1440p) its still not going to be stable because games are not optimized to handle that area and each game reacts differently. Games like LoL are fine but for instance BF4 has dips and at 144hz having it skip to say 70 is very noticeable without it versus having it on. As for the IPS argument, again while I see the benefit I personally didn't care when gaming as the difference in color is not very noticeable most of the time in games (At least to me). That's mostly why I end up just buying the cheaper TN panel monitors instead of the IPS variants.

I think it would be better to save up and buy the G-Sync monitor, but that's my opinion based on my testing at 144hz. If you decide to just get a 1440p 60hz monitor, you don't need it.

what about this:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0149QBOF0/?tag=tec06d-20

 

[RejZoR]

I have it and it's by far the best monitor I've ever used. And with NVIDIA graphic cards, if you use Adaptive V-Sync you have no performance penalty.
And I really like the "On-Screen" additional features like virtual crosshair. Super useful in games that don't have it, like Killing Floor. It's kinda cheat so you can accurately shoot from a hip without actually aiming. Or just to have a better perception where the center is because it's visible more than in-game crosshairs. Good connectivity with 3 ports (DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort), DAC converter, 3,5 jack audio out and surprisingly decent speakers considering how shite integrated speakers usually are so I can use it as a TV with my ISP TV communicator. And for me, one of most important factors, VESA wall mount points. If monitor doesn't have that, I'll never buy it no matter how good it is.

G-Sync is imo pointless unless you're NVIDIA fanboy and you don't mind being stuck on one brand for the sake of this functionality. I had AMD card when I bought it so I didn't care back then.

And for crying out loud, stop the uh oh TN has bad image quality nonsense. This is top of the line TN panel in a gaming monitor. It's not 2005 anymore, TN panels have moved on. And this one is a very good screen.

 

[trog100]

"And for crying out loud, stop the uh oh TN has bad image quality nonsense. This is top of the line TN panel in a gaming monitor. It's not 2005 anymore, TN panels have moved on. And this one is a very good screen."

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i had/have a recent acer 24 inch TN panel.. bought about five months ago.. its now sat on the shelf doing nothing.. the acer TN panel cost me £200 quid and is a nice gaming panel but its not a patch on my asus rog ips panel.. having said that the asus panel did cost me £700 quid..

having spent the money i did try hard to be happy with my 144 hrz acer panel but i have a large photo collection and try as hard as i could.. none my pics looked right.. kind of like the white balance being off.. he he

the TN panel has an over bright back light (good contrast but its blacks aint very black) its viewing angles are poor and its colours are just not accurate..

for sat directly in front of the panel straight forward gaming the acer TN panel was perfect.. for shared viewing the poor viewing angles let it down.. however much TN panels have improved they are still not as good as an IPS style panel in some ways..

it does all come down to what is required from a monitor.. and oddly enough the shiny screen acer TN panel i bought a few years ago looked far better to me than the much newer acer TN gaming panel..

but my asus rog swift ips style panel just has "better" image quality and compared side by side with the acer TN panel the difference is very obvious..

but the price difference makes any side by side comparison unfair.. all i am gonna say is a fast TN panel is plenty good enough for gaming but for other things not so good..

a buyer needs to decide what it is they prioritize and buy accordingly.. i found i wanted the best of both worlds but the cost of getting it wasnt cheap..

trog

 

[Vayra86]

And for crying out loud, stop the uh oh TN has bad image quality nonsense. This is top of the line TN panel in a gaming monitor. It's not 2005 anymore, TN panels have moved on. And this one is a very good screen.

TN is a technology and it simply has its limits. There is really no denying it. The most important flaw it has, still exists, and that is contrast/tone shift at an angle. If you move your head in front of TN, you notice it.

 

[RodoGodo19]

I have it and it's by far the best monitor I've ever used. And with NVIDIA graphic cards, if you use Adaptive V-Sync you have no performance penalty.
And I really like the "On-Screen" additional features like virtual crosshair. Super useful in games that don't have it, like Killing Floor. It's kinda cheat so you can accurately shoot from a hip without actually aiming. Or just to have a better perception where the center is because it's visible more than in-game crosshairs. Good connectivity with 3 ports (DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort), DAC converter, 3,5 jack audio out and surprisingly decent speakers considering how shite integrated speakers usually are so I can use it as a TV with my ISP TV communicator. And for me, one of most important factors, VESA wall mount points. If monitor doesn't have that, I'll never buy it no matter how good it is.

G-Sync is imo pointless unless you're NVIDIA fanboy and you don't mind being stuck on one brand for the sake of this functionality. I had AMD card when I bought it so I didn't care back then.

And for crying out loud, stop the uh oh TN has bad image quality nonsense. This is top of the line TN panel in a gaming monitor. It's not 2005 anymore, TN panels have moved on. And this one is a very good screen.

"And for crying out loud, stop the uh oh TN has bad image quality nonsense. This is top of the line TN panel in a gaming monitor. It's not 2005 anymore, TN panels have moved on. And this one is a very good screen."

###

i had/have a recent acer 24 inch TN panel.. bought about five months ago.. its now sat on the shelf doing nothing.. the acer TN panel cost me £200 quid and is a nice gaming panel but its not a patch on my asus rog ips panel.. having said that the asus panel did cost me £700 quid..

having spent the money i did try hard to be happy with my 144 hrz acer panel but i have a large photo collection and try as hard as i could.. none my pics looked right.. kind of like the white balance being off.. he he

the TN panel has an over bright back light (good contrast but its blacks aint very black) its viewing angles are poor and its colours are just not accurate..

for sat directly in front of the panel straight forward gaming the acer TN panel was perfect.. for shared viewing the poor viewing angles let it down.. however much TN panels have improved they are still not as good as an IPS style panel in some ways..

it does all come down to what is required from a monitor.. and oddly enough the shiny screen acer TN panel i bought a few years ago looked far better to me than the much newer acer TN gaming panel..

but my asus rog swift ips style panel just has "better" image quality and compared side by side with the acer TN panel the difference is very obvious..

but the price difference makes any side by side comparison unfair.. all i am gonna say is a fast TN panel is plenty good enough for gaming but for other things not so good..

a buyer needs to decide what it is they prioritize and buy accordingly.. i found i wanted the best of both worlds but the cost of getting it wasnt cheap..

trog

TN is a technology and it simply has its limits. There is really no denying it. The most important flaw it has, still exists, and that is contrast/tone shift at an angle. If you move your head in front of TN, you notice it.

do you think guys that i am good with my IPS 60hz 1080p 6mb DELL so far until i can save money then?

 

[trog100]

yes.. he he..

dont just think you need better because of all the sales hype..

trog

 

[wolar]

I use a dell u2414h and im happy with it but i didn't use any 144hz so i don't know the difference. I wouldn't get any TN panel now as i find the color reproduction more important in games.
There are though monitors like acer predator that are ips 1440p 144hz gsync but not in my price range(800$)