• We've upgraded our forums. Please post any issues/requests in this thread.

ATI Catalyst 9.12 WHQL Released

Joined
Mar 19, 2005
Messages
280 (0.06/day)
Likes
30
Location
Southern California :)
System Name Big Beast
Processor AMD A10-7850K
Motherboard Asrock FM2A88X Extreme 6+
Cooling Corsair H70
Memory G.Skill Sniper series 2133mhz @ 9-11-10-28
Video Card(s) MSI R7970 LIGHTNING
Storage Corsair 120GB Force GT / WD 640Gb Caviar Black
Display(s) 27" Korean Monitor (Auria)
Case Antec Three-Hundred
Audio Device(s) Audigy 2 zs Gamer
Power Supply 600 watt
Software Windows 8.1 Profressional x64
#76
Anyone know why it is reporting that I have Catalyst 9.7 installed? I am using the 9.12 hotfix drivers. Do you have to install the hotfix over 9.12 or as a clean install? Also my direct compute score seems really low and I also have no OpenCL.
you have the latest drivers, for whatever reason it uses the last driver version that was on the computer...

and your DirectCompute scores seem fine:
"I'm getting about D3100 for a single 4890@990MHz" from Pat the creator of the benchmark.

and to have OpenCL you need to download and install the stream dev kit: http://developer.amd.com/GPU/ATISTREAMSDK/Pages/default.aspx
 
Joined
Jul 13, 2008
Messages
236 (0.07/day)
Likes
15
Location
EU
#77
They should retire the WHQL program, 'hardware quality lab' my ass, they just get some money and OK any buggy driver, and that's been like that for years now, and they admit it, so what the hell, isn't there some action the manufacturers can take? Do a damn lawsuit against this BS already.
 

Mussels

Moderprator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
46,130 (9.57/day)
Likes
13,564
Location
Australalalalalaia.
System Name Daddy Long Legs
Processor Ryzen R7 1700, 3.9GHz 1.375v
Motherboard MSI X370 Gaming PRO carbon
Cooling Fractal Celsius S24 (Silent fans, meh pump)
Memory 16GB 2133 generic @ 2800
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X (BIOS modded to Gaming Z - faster and solved black screen bugs!)
Storage 1TB Intel SSD Pro 6000p (60TB USB3 storage)
Display(s) Samsung 4K 40" HDTV (UA40KU6000WXXY) / 27" Qnix 2K 110Hz
Case Fractal Design R5. So much room, so quiet...
Audio Device(s) Pioneer VSX-519V + Yamaha YHT-270 / sennheiser HD595/518 + bob marley zion's
Power Supply Corsair HX 750i (Platinum, fan off til 300W)
Mouse Logitech G403 + KKmoon desk-sized mousepad
Keyboard Corsair K65 Rapidfire
Software Windows 10 pro x64 (all systems)
Benchmark Scores Laptops: i7-4510U + 840M 2GB (touchscreen) 275GB SSD + 16GB i7-2630QM + GT 540M + 8GB
#79
all the test does, is proves that it wont crash the OS. which is better than nothing.

MS arent certifying the drivers to work with other drivers, or to play nice with 3D games - just that installing the driver will not make your PC go kaput.
 
Joined
Jul 13, 2008
Messages
236 (0.07/day)
Likes
15
Location
EU
#80
Except it does make your box kaput, and when they listed causes of crashes on vista they said 80% graphic drivers (nvidia mostly since they had the first vista drivers back then), but meanwhile they OK'd those drivers, drivers that crashed a vanilla vista, which just clearly illustrates it's not what it was conceptualized to be, which was a way to make the OS much more stable by not allowing shoddy drivers on it, and specifically not drivers that interact with other core drivers to cause a crash, that was the whole idea of it, to make the core of the OS uncrashable, and what do we ATI users get when we use 64bit windows? driver version after version that crashes your box cold, I mean hard crash to the BIOS, that was suppose to NOT happen by having WHQL prevent such drivers from being approved.

But meh, in the end complete control by MS is a bad idea anyway, and it's better if the users uses his smarts to not keep drivers that crash his system, but then why does ATI and other companies have to go through a fake show and dance and pay for a certificate, it's silly.
 

Mussels

Moderprator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
46,130 (9.57/day)
Likes
13,564
Location
Australalalalalaia.
System Name Daddy Long Legs
Processor Ryzen R7 1700, 3.9GHz 1.375v
Motherboard MSI X370 Gaming PRO carbon
Cooling Fractal Celsius S24 (Silent fans, meh pump)
Memory 16GB 2133 generic @ 2800
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X (BIOS modded to Gaming Z - faster and solved black screen bugs!)
Storage 1TB Intel SSD Pro 6000p (60TB USB3 storage)
Display(s) Samsung 4K 40" HDTV (UA40KU6000WXXY) / 27" Qnix 2K 110Hz
Case Fractal Design R5. So much room, so quiet...
Audio Device(s) Pioneer VSX-519V + Yamaha YHT-270 / sennheiser HD595/518 + bob marley zion's
Power Supply Corsair HX 750i (Platinum, fan off til 300W)
Mouse Logitech G403 + KKmoon desk-sized mousepad
Keyboard Corsair K65 Rapidfire
Software Windows 10 pro x64 (all systems)
Benchmark Scores Laptops: i7-4510U + 840M 2GB (touchscreen) 275GB SSD + 16GB i7-2630QM + GT 540M + 8GB
#81
Except it does make your box kaput, and when they listed causes of crashes on vista they said 80% graphic drivers (nvidia mostly since they had the first vista drivers back then), but meanwhile they OK'd those drivers, drivers that crashed a vanilla vista, which just clearly illustrates it's not what it was conceptualized to be, which was a way to make the OS much more stable by not allowing shoddy drivers on it, and specifically not drivers that interact with other core drivers to cause a crash, that was the whole idea of it, to make the core of the OS uncrashable, and what do we ATI users get when we use 64bit windows? driver version after version that crashes your box cold, I mean hard crash to the BIOS, that was suppose to NOT happen by having WHQL prevent such drivers from being approved.

But meh, in the end complete control by MS is a bad idea anyway, and it's better if the users uses his smarts to not keep drivers that crash his system, but then why does ATI and other companies have to go through a fake show and dance and pay for a certificate, it's silly.
when those drivers crashed, they crashed and recovered. Those were driver crashes, not BSOD's - i was a G80 nvidia used back then, i well recall those F'ing NVwhatever.dll crashes - but not once did they make my PC crash, just the driver and sometimes the game running at the time
 
Joined
Jun 3, 2007
Messages
22,402 (5.82/day)
Likes
8,926
Location
'Merica. The Great SOUTH!
System Name The Mailbox 4.5
Processor Intel i7 2600k @ 4.2GHz
Motherboard Gigabyte Z77X-UP5 TH Intel LGA 1155
Cooling Scythe Katana 4
Memory G.SKILL Sniper Series 16GB DDR3 1866: 9-9-9-24
Video Card(s) MSI 1080 "Duke" with 8Gb of RAM. Boost Clock 1847 MHz
Storage 256Gb M4 SSD, 500Gb WD (7200) 128Gb Agelity 4 SSD
Display(s) LG 29" Class 21:9 UltraWide® IPS LED Monitor 2560 x 1080
Case Cooler Master 922 HAF
Audio Device(s) SupremeFX X-Fi with Bose Companion 2 speakers.
Power Supply SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold
Mouse SteelSeries Sensei (RAW) and a Wacom Intuos 4 tablet.
Keyboard Razer BlackWidow
Software Windows 10 Pro (64-bit)
Benchmark Scores Benching is for bitches.
#82
all the test does, is proves that it wont crash the OS. which is better than nothing.

MS aren't certifying the drivers to work with other drivers, or to play nice with 3D games - just that installing the driver will not make your PC go kaput.
Thats all I really want to be honest. If they tested every combination of hardware and software together we would never get anything new. I mean its impossible.
 
Joined
Jul 13, 2008
Messages
236 (0.07/day)
Likes
15
Location
EU
#83
Sure

Yeah you can't test everything, but you can test the very basic stuff, and it's not done.
they released drivers for devices under WHQL that did not work on certain OS's in ANY setup, showing they did not test them even in a clean basic state under that OS.
WHQL = pay-get-certificate no questions asked.
 
Joined
Nov 4, 2005
Messages
9,950 (2.25/day)
Likes
2,309
System Name MoFo 2
Processor AMD PhenomII 1100T @ 4.2Ghz
Motherboard Asus Crosshair IV
Cooling Swiftec 655 pump, Apogee GT,, MCR360mm Rad, 1/2 loop.
Memory 8GB DDR3-2133 @ 1900 8.9.9.24 1T
Video Card(s) HD7970 1250/1750
Storage Agility 3 SSD 6TB RAID 0 on RAID Card
Display(s) 46" 1080P Toshiba LCD
Case Rosewill R6A34-BK modded (thanks to MKmods)
Audio Device(s) ATI HDMI
Power Supply 750W PC Power & Cooling modded (thanks to MKmods)
Software A lot.
Benchmark Scores Its fast. Enough.
#84
I had issues with powerplay, when two screen were running hardware accelerated video it hadhardlockups. Adjusting the voltage want didn't help either, judging by the tan screen with blue lines it was memory.

Final fix was to force 500Mhz core, and 993 memory as a profile and load it. Apparently the constant switching between states caused the card to hard lock.

So here is my google keywords below this line


AMD 4850 tan screen
HD4850 tan screen lockup
ATI 4850 tan screen lockup
Dual display hard lockup ATI
ATI powerplay issues dual display
ATI 4850 9.12 hardlock