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ATI x1300 Pro 512 or x1600 Pro 512... Which is the better Card?

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Hello,

I have the choice of either a ATI x1300 Pro 512 or ATI x1600 Pro 512 both PCI-E:confused: ... Im wondering which would be the better choice as far as speed, gameplay, and OC... Any advice, opinions, facts etc would be much apperciated...
 
ATI x1600 Pro
 
Can i ask why x1600 pro? I'm still noobish with all this stuff...
 
I have the X1300pro, it really sucks... Honestly I would get even a 256mb X1950 before I got the X1600 even in 512...
 
I have the X1300pro, it really sucks... Honestly I would get even a 256mb X1950 before I got the X1600 even in 512...

If your temps are crap its because uve got passive cooling, but yes it looks like a disappointing card!

Invest in X1950Pro ;)
 
nah get the x1300xt that is faster than x1600pro nearly as fast as the xt and with abit of clocking can easy outdo a x1600xt and retail around 60 quid
 
I have the X1300pro, it really sucks... Honestly I would get even a 256mb X1950 before I got the X1600 even in 512...

who wouldnt lol that goes without saying

anyway yeah the x1600pro is a lot better than the x1300 you can normally tell as the higher the model number the better
 
nah get the x1300xt that is faster than x1600pro nearly as fast as the xt and with abit of clocking can easy outdo a x1600xt and retail around 60 quid

actually the x1300xt is a x1600pro renamed
 
Ok heres what i came up with so far... I have a ATI x1300 Pro 256 which i had OC'd at 658.80 core & 427.50 mem(Stock was 600/396) and i noticed a little difference compared to stock clock settings... Now my brother has a ATI x1600 pro 512 and I OC'd it (well Tried) from 500/405 to 623.70/423.00 and cant really tell that much of a difference between the two... so really what im wondering is if i got the x1300 pro 512 will i still be able to OC as high as the x1300 pro 256... Also would going from 256 to 512 really make that much of a diff? Oh btw the x1300 doesnt have temp moniter and the x1600 does (Just FYI)...
 
No it will not make that big of a difference, I would get the X1300XT if you want a small upgrade.
 
Ok is there a diff between x1300 Pro & an x1300XT?
 
Ok heres what i came up with so far... I have a ATI x1300 Pro 256 which i had OC'd at 658.80 core & 427.50 mem(Stock was 600/396) and i noticed a little difference compared to stock clock settings... Now my brother has a ATI x1600 pro 512 and I OC'd it (well Tried) from 500/405 to 623.70/423.00 and cant really tell that much of a difference between the two... so really what im wondering is if i got the x1300 pro 512 will i still be able to OC as high as the x1300 pro 256... Also would going from 256 to 512 really make that much of a diff?

the x1600 is better than the x1300 handsdown it doesnt matter it doesnt oc aswell as the x1300. the x1600 is still better and although image quality may look similar the results will be a boost in fps over the x1300, if you have the choice and must have one or the iother, there is no point in going for the lesser model x1300 because it is the next model down.

EDIT: also if you game at more than 1280x1024 then get the 512mb as the extra memory helps with higher resolutions and stops it from eating into the system memory which is much slower.
 
Ok is there a diff between x1300 Pro & an x1300XT?

the x1300xt is a x1600pro renamed, same card/core etc afaik

EDIT: Just noticed this my 250th post w00t w00t 5 stars for me
 
the x1300xt is a x1600pro renamed, same card/core etc afaik

Wiz did a review and it was just as fast as a 1650pro which is the x1600XT
 
Ok heres what i came up with so far... I have a ATI x1300 Pro 256 which i had OC'd at 658.80 core & 427.50 mem(Stock was 600/396) and i noticed a little difference compared to stock clock settings... Now my brother has a ATI x1600 pro 512 and I OC'd it (well Tried) from 500/405 to 623.70/423.00 and cant really tell that much of a difference between the two... so really what im wondering is if i got the x1300 pro 512 will i still be able to OC as high as the x1300 pro 256... Also would going from 256 to 512 really make that much of a diff? Oh btw the x1300 doesnt have temp moniter and the x1600 does (Just FYI)...

also i have the x1600pro and that core speed is too high and thats possibly whats stopping you getting a better oc on the memory, i find about 580 core and 440 mem is a good balance and shows the best improvment.
 
Dont bother wasting your money on these cards.
Just save up to get a better video card (well thats if your into games which I am guessing you are).
 
The only games i play are BF2 & 2142...At a screen res of 1440x900...

See what gets me is how come the x1300 256 card has a higher stock core clock and almost the same mem clock as the x1600 512 does?
 
there different cores and the x1600 performs better even at a lower rate of the x1300's core. its just the way the core handles the information, also not sure if the x1300 has less pipes/shaders
 
Nope they both have same number of pipes and Have Shader 3.0... The one thing the x1600 has that x1300 doesnt is 256-bit ring-bus memory controller.

So then to sum it up a x1300 512 OC'd still wouldnt compare to x1600 512

Checkout the 2 cards side by side... http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=328&card2=350
 
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also have different cores which will handle data differently and more proficiently

"[edit] X1600 series
X1600 uses the RV530 core, a core that is quite a bit different from the RV515 of X1300 and the R520 of X1800. The X1600 is positioned to replace Radeon X600 and Radeon X700 as ATI's mid-range GPU.

It shares design philosophy with the X1900, in that it has a far different ratio of pixel shader processors. ATI has stated that the X1600 is designed with a far greater shader computational load, a prediction of future game workloads. Whereas the X1300 and X1800 have an equal pixel shader to texturing unit ratio, which targets a more equal workload of shaders and texturing in games, the RV530 of X1600 alters this to 12 pixel shaders and 4 texturing units. The chip's single "quad" has 3 pixel shader processors per pipeline. This means the chip has the same texturing ability as the X1300 at the same clock speed, but with its 12 pixel shaders it encroaches on X1800's territory in shader computational performance. While the performance is no where near that of an x1800 it still manages to lead the x1300 by a decent margin across the board. The X1600 also receives a boost in the vertex shader department, with the addition of 3 more units (total of 5) over the X1300. Its architecture is reflected in its performance; although the X1600 XT is slower than the nVidia 6600GT (a critically-acclaimed mainstream graphics card of the previous generation) in older games, it outperforms it in newer games that utilize more intense shader effects.

The X1600's core clock speeds are similar to X1300's while the memory attached is usually clocked higher. However, benchmarks show that the X1600 is a decent step up from the x1300. The reasons for this is that the X1600 while having some of the same limitations has much greater ability to process complex shaders having triple the number of pipelines. Unfortunately for ATI, benchmarks also show that the X1600's intended competitor, the nVidia 7600GT, is a much faster card despite being comparably priced."
 
Ok...Well thank you all fo the info...Now i'll have to decide...lol
 
imo if you have the money for either there is no comparison the x1600 is an all round better performer and for the price range (£60)you wont get anything better (7600 series would be a better choice but start slightly dearer than the x1600 range) if you can afford more go for a x800/850
 
If your temps are crap its because uve got passive cooling, but yes it looks like a disappointing card!

Invest in X1950Pro ;)

It's ATI branded, and it has a fan, and I turned it all the way up!

The rest of my machine runs in the 28-30c range.
 
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