• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

BClk-based Overclocking Returns with Haswell?

Random Murderer

The Anti-Midas
Joined
Dec 6, 2006
Messages
6,977 (1.35/day)
Location
Florida, A.K.A. the Sweatbox
System Name TOO MUCH RADIATOR! | The TV Box a.k.a. The Shoebox
Processor Core i7 4930K @ 4.5GHz | Core i5 6600K @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard Asus X79 Rampage IV Extreme | Asus Z170i Pro Gaming
Cooling Custom water on CPU and GPU, dual 360mm radiators | Corsair H80i
Memory 4x 8GB G.Skill TridentX DDR3-1600 | 2x 4GB G.Skill RipJaws 4 DDR4-3000
Video Card(s) Sapphire AMD R9 295x2 | PowerColor AMD HD7970
Storage Samsung SSD 830 256GB, various others | 2x 1TB Seagate Barracudas in RAID1
Display(s) Dell U2713HM 2560x1440 IPS | Panasonic TC-L32E5 1080p IPS TV
Case Thermaltake Suppressor F51 (stripped down to hold two radiators) | Cooler Master Elite 130
Audio Device(s) RM-DAC -> Xiang Sheng 708b -> Sennheiser HD650 | HDMI sound device on 7970
Power Supply LEPA G1600-MA 1600W | Corsair CX750M 750W
Software Win 10 64
Benchmark Scores over 9000 BungholioMarks, "Bitchin' Fast"
Only if they create a super mega overclocking SKU for LN2 OCing with a huge price premium...

You mean as in any "Extreme Edition" processor?
Anytime you see an Intel chip with "X" in the name(x6800, qx9650, 980x, 3960x, etc.), you know it's hugely overpriced and is meant for that guy who doesn't want to buy a bunch of regular chips and bin them himself, and will most likely be run sub-ambient at least once.
 

Tatty_One

Senior Moder@tor
Staff member
Joined
Jan 18, 2006
Messages
23,449 (4.28/day)
Location
Worcestershire, UK
System Name The Grey
Processor Intel Comet Lake Core i5 10600K
Motherboard MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK
Cooling Artic Cooling Liquid Freezer II 280mm AIO + 4 Phantek 140mm case fans
Memory 16GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 4133Mhz @ 17-17-17-34 2T@1.43v
Video Card(s) Gigabyte RTX 2060 SUPER Windforce OC 8GB
Storage WD Blue SN550 1TB M.2 NVME//SkHynix 120GB SSD//CrucialM4 64GB SSD
Display(s) AOC Q2781PQ 27 inch Ultra Slim 2560 x 1440 IPS
Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Windowed - Gunmetal
Audio Device(s) OnBoard Realtek ALC1200-VD1 @ 5.1 surround
Power Supply Seasonic Core Gold 650w Semi modular
Mouse Coolermaster Storm Octane wired
Keyboard Element Gaming Carbon Mk2 Tournament Mech
Software Win 10 Home x64
Good, I won't be bothering with Haswell for probably years. I just want sb-e. And thank god it doesn't have an iGPU. Now I know I want one for sure. I just have to wait about a year more before I can afford it. Gotta love being on a fixed income where I spend half of it just on rent, 1/4 of what's left on cable. Gives me about $300can a month for food, clothes, medicine, and computer parts. I spend typically 100- 200 on computer parts, so basically I starve most months. How's your dedication to computers?

Never starve for a PC, I thought technology was supposed to bring a greater quality of life!
 
Joined
Aug 19, 2011
Messages
527 (0.15/day)
System Name As Himself
Processor 2700X
Motherboard Asrock 370X ThaiChi
Cooling Custom Liquid
Memory 4133MHz Team
Video Card(s) Radeon VII
Storage Samsung 512 SSD's
Display(s) Asus "24 144Hz
Case Tt P5
Audio Device(s) Asus Essence One Muses/Sparkos
Power Supply EVGA 1200
Mouse RAT ProX
Keyboard Drop CTRL
Software W10 steam futuremark
You mean as in any "Extreme Edition" processor?
Anytime you see an Intel chip with "X" in the name(x6800, qx9650, 980x, 3960x, etc.), you know it's hugely overpriced and is meant for that guy who doesn't want to buy a bunch of regular chips and bin them himself, and will most likely be run sub-ambient at least once.

i think that was tongue-and-cheek
 
Joined
Jan 10, 2011
Messages
855 (0.23/day)
Location
Sudan, the lesser known, bigger home of the Nile.
System Name 192.168.1.1~192.16.1.100
Processor Intel Core i7 4770k
Motherboard Asus B85M-G
Cooling Corsair H60
Memory 20GB mixed sticks (because screw best practices)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte GTX 1080 OC (Underclocked, underpowered)
Storage Samsung 850 Evo + lots of TBs of HDD storage.
Display(s) LG 24MK430 Primary + Samsung S24D590 secondary
Case Corsair Graphite 780T
Audio Device(s) On-Board
Power Supply Coolermaster 850V
Mouse Coolermaster MM530
Keyboard Kingston HyperX Alloy FPS
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores Me no know English. What bench mean? Bench like one sit on?
I thought technology was supposed to bring a greater quality of life!

 
Joined
Dec 5, 2012
Messages
58 (0.02/day)
Good, I won't be bothering with Haswell for probably years. I just want sb-e. And thank god it doesn't have an iGPU. Now I know I want one for sure. I just have to wait about a year more before I can afford it. Gotta love being on a fixed income where I spend half of it just on rent, 1/4 of what's left on cable. Gives me about $300can a month for food, clothes, medicine, and computer parts. I spend typically 100- 200 on computer parts, so basically I starve most months. How's your dedication to computers?


The only place you'll find a SB-E in a year is used on eBay. I would avoid that at all costs.
 
Joined
Jul 9, 2012
Messages
103 (0.03/day)
Location
England UK
Processor Intel Core i7-4930K Ivy Bridge-E @ 4.5GHz (1.28 V)
Motherboard ASUS Rampage IV Formula X79
Cooling (CPU) CORSAIR Hydro H80i Liquid Cooling - (Case) 2x CORSAIR SP140 RGB PRO, 2x CORSAIR SP120 RGB PRO
Memory 16GB Kingston HyperX Beast DDR3-2400MHz (4x4) Quad Channel
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Gaming 11G @ 2GHz
Storage OCZ Vertex450 256GB SSD (Boot) + Silicon Power 512GB SSD (Games) + 3 Mech's
Display(s) BenQ XL2720T 1920x1080 120Hz
Case CORSAIR Carbide 500R
Audio Device(s) CORSAIR Void PRO RGB USB + Pioneer HDJ-500-R
Power Supply CORSAIR RM1000
Mouse CORSAIR Harpoon RGB PRO
Keyboard CORSAIR K55 RGB
Software Windows 7 Ultimate (64-Bit)
Benchmark Scores https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/34647008?
I think an iGPU is handy if your dedicated GPU packs up and you have no spare. :)
 

Random Murderer

The Anti-Midas
Joined
Dec 6, 2006
Messages
6,977 (1.35/day)
Location
Florida, A.K.A. the Sweatbox
System Name TOO MUCH RADIATOR! | The TV Box a.k.a. The Shoebox
Processor Core i7 4930K @ 4.5GHz | Core i5 6600K @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard Asus X79 Rampage IV Extreme | Asus Z170i Pro Gaming
Cooling Custom water on CPU and GPU, dual 360mm radiators | Corsair H80i
Memory 4x 8GB G.Skill TridentX DDR3-1600 | 2x 4GB G.Skill RipJaws 4 DDR4-3000
Video Card(s) Sapphire AMD R9 295x2 | PowerColor AMD HD7970
Storage Samsung SSD 830 256GB, various others | 2x 1TB Seagate Barracudas in RAID1
Display(s) Dell U2713HM 2560x1440 IPS | Panasonic TC-L32E5 1080p IPS TV
Case Thermaltake Suppressor F51 (stripped down to hold two radiators) | Cooler Master Elite 130
Audio Device(s) RM-DAC -> Xiang Sheng 708b -> Sennheiser HD650 | HDMI sound device on 7970
Power Supply LEPA G1600-MA 1600W | Corsair CX750M 750W
Software Win 10 64
Benchmark Scores over 9000 BungholioMarks, "Bitchin' Fast"

jonjonjon

New Member
Joined
Oct 26, 2012
Messages
2 (0.00/day)
not everyone needs a video card

just because you buy a $300 video card doesn't mean that's what everyone else does. the intel HD 4000 graphics are good enough for 99% of people who aren't playing the newest AAA games. even if you are using a video card why do you care if the cpu has a igpu anyway? if they launched a version of the cpu without the igpu it would be the same exact thing with a disabled igpu.

i did get a good laugh at the person who is going to spend more to get a socket 2011 cpu because it doesn't have a igpu. the real reason to get 2011 is for the 6 core cpu's.
 

Aquinus

Resident Wat-man
Joined
Jan 28, 2012
Messages
11,943 (3.64/day)
Location
Concord, NH
System Name Apollo
Processor Intel Core i9 9880H
Memory 64GB DDR4-2667
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon Pro 5600M, 8GB HBM2
Storage 1TB Apple NVMe, 4TB External
Display(s) Laptop @ 3072x1920 + 2x LG 5k Ultrafine TB3 displays
Case MacBook Pro (16", 2019)
Audio Device(s) AirPods Pro, Sennheiser HD 380s w/ FIIO Alpen 2, or Logitech 2.1 Speakers
Power Supply 96w Power Adapter
Mouse Logitech MX Master 3
Keyboard Full Size Wireless Apple Magic Keyboard
Software MacOS 10.15.7
the real reason to get 2011 is for the 6 core cpu's.

Or an overclockable quad-core with quad-channel memory, VT-d support, at 10Mb of L3 vs 8Mb. I've been very happy with my 3820, it also didn't cost all that much either.
 

Random Murderer

The Anti-Midas
Joined
Dec 6, 2006
Messages
6,977 (1.35/day)
Location
Florida, A.K.A. the Sweatbox
System Name TOO MUCH RADIATOR! | The TV Box a.k.a. The Shoebox
Processor Core i7 4930K @ 4.5GHz | Core i5 6600K @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard Asus X79 Rampage IV Extreme | Asus Z170i Pro Gaming
Cooling Custom water on CPU and GPU, dual 360mm radiators | Corsair H80i
Memory 4x 8GB G.Skill TridentX DDR3-1600 | 2x 4GB G.Skill RipJaws 4 DDR4-3000
Video Card(s) Sapphire AMD R9 295x2 | PowerColor AMD HD7970
Storage Samsung SSD 830 256GB, various others | 2x 1TB Seagate Barracudas in RAID1
Display(s) Dell U2713HM 2560x1440 IPS | Panasonic TC-L32E5 1080p IPS TV
Case Thermaltake Suppressor F51 (stripped down to hold two radiators) | Cooler Master Elite 130
Audio Device(s) RM-DAC -> Xiang Sheng 708b -> Sennheiser HD650 | HDMI sound device on 7970
Power Supply LEPA G1600-MA 1600W | Corsair CX750M 750W
Software Win 10 64
Benchmark Scores over 9000 BungholioMarks, "Bitchin' Fast"
Or an overclockable quad-core with quad-channel memory, VT-d support, at 10Mb of L3 vs 8Mb. I've been very happy with my 3820, it also didn't cost all that much either.

Agreed. The 3820 can be had for less than the 3770K and the same price as the non-K.
The most expensive part of a 2011 system is the mobo, but the benefits of 2011 are like Aquinus said, flexible overclocking(not restricted to multiplier only), quad-channel memory, VT-d, more L3 cache, and one he didn't mention, SB-E has TWICE the native pci-e lanes of SB and IVB.
That being said, LGA2011 is an enthusiast platform and comes with the price and features to match.
 
Joined
Nov 18, 2010
Messages
5,165 (1.39/day)
Location
Rīga, Latvia
System Name HELLSTAR
Processor Intel 5960X @ 4.4GHz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X99-UD3
Cooling Custom Loop. Two 360+280 rads. 8x Nidec Servo Gentle Typhoons. AC CUPLEX KRYOS NEXT.
Memory 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000MHz 15-17-17-36 CR1
Video Card(s) ASUS 1080 Ti FE + water block
Storage Optane 900P + Samsung PM981 NVMe 1TB + 750 EVO 500GB
Display(s) Philips PHL BDM3270
Case Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Tempered Glass
Audio Device(s) Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Fractal Design Newton R3 1000W
Mouse Razer Basilisk
Keyboard Razer Deathstalker
Software Windows 10 insider
Agreed. The 3820 can be had for less than the 3770K and the same price as the non-K.
The most expensive part of a 2011 system is the mobo, but the benefits of 2011 are like Aquinus said, flexible overclocking(not restricted to multiplier only), quad-channel memory, VT-d, more L3 cache, and one he didn't mention, SB-E has TWICE the native pci-e lanes of SB and IVB.
That being said, LGA2011 is an enthusiast platform and comes with the price and features to match.

What I have less on my even older X58? :laugh: 1-2 fps?
 

Random Murderer

The Anti-Midas
Joined
Dec 6, 2006
Messages
6,977 (1.35/day)
Location
Florida, A.K.A. the Sweatbox
System Name TOO MUCH RADIATOR! | The TV Box a.k.a. The Shoebox
Processor Core i7 4930K @ 4.5GHz | Core i5 6600K @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard Asus X79 Rampage IV Extreme | Asus Z170i Pro Gaming
Cooling Custom water on CPU and GPU, dual 360mm radiators | Corsair H80i
Memory 4x 8GB G.Skill TridentX DDR3-1600 | 2x 4GB G.Skill RipJaws 4 DDR4-3000
Video Card(s) Sapphire AMD R9 295x2 | PowerColor AMD HD7970
Storage Samsung SSD 830 256GB, various others | 2x 1TB Seagate Barracudas in RAID1
Display(s) Dell U2713HM 2560x1440 IPS | Panasonic TC-L32E5 1080p IPS TV
Case Thermaltake Suppressor F51 (stripped down to hold two radiators) | Cooler Master Elite 130
Audio Device(s) RM-DAC -> Xiang Sheng 708b -> Sennheiser HD650 | HDMI sound device on 7970
Power Supply LEPA G1600-MA 1600W | Corsair CX750M 750W
Software Win 10 64
Benchmark Scores over 9000 BungholioMarks, "Bitchin' Fast"
What I have less on my even older X58? :laugh: 1-2 fps?

Enthusiast platforms are just that. I still love my old x48 setup, even though it's found a new home on a friend's desk.
Hell, 1366 is still a very formidable platform. Here's to hoping 2011 holds up as well as 1366 has:toast:
 
Top