BSOD, in desperate need of help :(

[Rexter]

Dont really know if this goes in the hardware or software, depends on what the error turns out to be.

My computer has a BSOD now, and wont boot into windows, not even safe-mode.
But first some explanation. (You can look at my setup to the left of course)
My computer has had the current windows install for about 7-8 months and never had a problem with it. But about two weeks ago, i turned it on and when it tried to load vista a blue-screen popped up faster than i could make out anything of the error message. So it just endlessly rebooted, not even safe-mode worked. I popped in my vista cd so i could try and use the repair function. But nope, it couldnt even recognize there was a vista installation on the harddrive (well it found something but said it was "unknown). Now i was nervous.
The usb harddrive i used to make backup on was dead, so i was saving up for a new one, so i had no backups (its so typical shit happens at that moment my backup drive dies).
I waited a few hours and tried again and then it worked. Didnt make any sense, i could in no way find out what had caused the error.

Fast forward to today, the computer had worked fine, but i had left it on for about 1½ hours while i was out (it was just sitting in windows idling, no programs were running), i went back and noticed that all my tray icons dissapeared the moment i moved my mouse over them. "odd" i thought, so i clicked on the start menu to start up my nod32 and then everything dissapeared with only the mouse and wallpaper. And the harddrive lamp was on but i couldnt hear it doing anything.
I then pressed ctrl-alt-del and then the screen went black. And then the monitor turned off because there was no video signal.
"uh-oh"... I pressed the reset button and when it tried to boot windows the same BSOD came up and still it was too fast for me to see what it was.
I tried using the vista install cd repair function again, and now it couldnt find the vista installation at all (even though i could still try to boot into vista). I tried a few times and then the BSOD came on while booting the cd. never happened before. but i could luckily see what the error code was. But it didnt say anything about a driver name or filename.

tl:dr version
BSOD error 0x0000007E(oxC0000005, 0x895B9A98, 0x80599B68, 0x80599864), how do i fix it?

i have so many files that i dont want to lose, i would die if they were to dissapear.

 

[Frick]

Isn't there an option somewhere where you can turn off the automatic reboot? Those numbers doesn't say anything.

To be on the safe side, you should hook up the harddrive to another computer and see if you can salvage the most important stuff.

EDIT: Oh, there is.. But you have to go through the OS.

1/ Click Start button

2/ From Start menu Click Control panel

3/ In Control Panel Click the System icon

4/ In the System Window look on the Left hand side of the window and you will see a list of options. Click on the Advanced System Settings option

5/ Because Computer management requires administrative privileges you may find the the User Account Control will pop up. If it does then enter the required information (if you are not the administrator) or, if you are the administrator, click the Continue button

6/ In the Advanced Settings window look for the Startup and Recovery section and then Click the Settings button

7/ In the Startup and recovery window look for the section marked System failure and remove the 'tick' mark from the 'Automatically Restart' option. Now press OK button

8/ Finally click the OK button on the System properties Window and then close the system window.

 

[KainXS]

before you go messing around in the computer try this, use the windows cd to boot the cd and see if the boot files are corrupt

 

[vega22]

try checking the cables to the hdd, swapping them out if you can, as it sounds like its failing to me.

what happened to the ex drive? could you remove it from its housing and use it in the pc case?

 

[Velvet Wafer]

you surely own a good brand, but, how old is you psu? i got plagued by similar random blue screens when mine died... psu did really weird things

 

[Rexter]

Thank you all for the fast replies.

-What would turning off automatic reboot do? The first time the error appears the "windows made an error would you start in safe mode?" thingie, and after that with every reboot because it always encounters the bluescreen. So i do have the possibilty to boot from a cd or choose to start in safe made etc. But non of them works.

-Like i said in my OP, i tried to boot with the install cd, but when it tries to find a windows installation it says there isnt any, because it does try to boot into windows.

-I will try and switch the sata cables, and try to attach it to a different sata port on the mobo.
- The psu on the external hdd died so i returned it to the store because it was still under warranty. But they had none in stock to replace it so i just got the money back. But because im really financially tight i had to use the money and save up for another later. I had no idea my computer would die out within a month after.

- I could exchange the PSU, but i dont have another equally powerfull on hand. the largest i have is 400watt, and i think its too old. But it works.

- I think i could also check if any of the ram is causing trouble, but i could play powerhungry games for hours on end without trouble, so i dont think thats the problem.

Also the bsod error number i gave, propably isnt the right one, but i dont have anything else to go by because the real bsod flashes so fast i cant see what it is.

 

[Bundy]

turning off auto reboot enables you to read the error code. Othwrwise it disappears too quickly.

 

[Rexter]

Ah, ok. IF i manage to make my computer work (please god!) i will turn it off just in case.

 

[douglatins]

Are you worried about files? Just load a CD ubuntu and backup, then reformat

 

[Rexter]

I dont know how ubuntu works I have tried a ubuntu live cd several times with other computers but i never know how they work. i plug in an external drive but i can never find the files i am looking for or the harddrive for that matter. i feel so stupid

 

[Frick]

Haha, that is pretty common. It IS confusing.

But your external drive is dead anyway, right?

 

[Rexter]

Yes it was dead, and since i thought my computer wouldnt die within a month or two, i returned it to the store. I do have two other external drives but they are filled to the brim with video and music etc. So if i cant bring my pc back from the dead i will have to borrow an external drive and figure out how the heck ubuntu works and get the files.
But that is the last resort though. I MUST get it to work.

 

[Rexter]

Double post i know..

But here is an update.
So i tried booting from the windows vista cd again and another bsod popped up.

it says there is a problem with "disk.sys" (but is it on the cd or the harddrive?)
"Page fault in nonpaged area"

and then the error code: 0x00000050 (0x817B13FC, 0x00000000, 0x817B13FC, 0x00000000)
"disk.sys - address 817B13FC base at 817B0000, datestamp 00000000"

Any idea what that might be?

 

[douglatins]

damn, weird stuff, you should really try backing up with the linux, the you can safely mess with the drive, The if a bsod occurs when isntalling vista or whatever, you might have faulty ram chips, vga mem etc

 

[Frick]

This guy seems to have kinda the same problem.

Could it be the RAM? Play around with it!

 

[Bundy]

I think you should stop trying to load windows until you confirm that your RAM is ok. Check it with memtest 86+. If you keep running and the problem is dodgy RAM, you could be making a mess of your OS.
What does your BIOS report for temperatures?

 

[IINexusII]

did you reset the bios or something? maybe the hdd has changed from achi to ide or the other way around, which would definately give you a bsod

 

[Rexter]

alright here is an update. thank you all for the suggestions

turns out it really was a ram problem afterall. Well looks like that so far at least.

I tried almost every suggestion but to no avail, until i started pulling out a ram stick one at a time until it finally booted! WOOHOO! And the surviving sticks even passed a memory test. Phew. Now all i have to do is RMA the broken ones as they are still sorta new.
But i think my first priority is to get a new backup hdd. Because then my comp wont break again. We all know the drill, you can wear a seatbelt your entire life without a crash, and the one time your forget it, you crash


One last thing. Though i bought two identical pairs of ram when i built this computer, one pair says "ver 2.10, rev 5.1" and the broken pair says "ver 2.10, rev 1.5". And actually i heard from a lot that these ram easily break, so i was kinda nervous when i opened up the packaging, seeing the huge difference in revision number.

 

[Mike0409]

Double post i know..

But here is an update.
So i tried booting from the windows vista cd again and another bsod popped up.

it says there is a problem with "disk.sys" (but is it on the cd or the harddrive?)
"Page fault in nonpaged area"

and then the error code: 0x00000050 (0x817B13FC, 0x00000000, 0x817B13FC, 0x00000000)
"disk.sys - address 817B13FC base at 817B0000, datestamp 00000000"

Any idea what that might be?

Another Knowledge base Hep file

tl:dr version
BSOD error 0x0000007E(oxC0000005, 0x895B9A98, 0x80599B68, 0x80599864), how do i fix it?
i have so many files that i dont want to lose, i would die if they were to dissapear.

Stop Code 0x07E = the following MS Knowledge Base

Isn't there an option somewhere where you can turn off the automatic reboot? Those numbers doesn't say anything.

To be on the safe side, you should hook up the harddrive to another computer and see if you can salvage the most important stuff.

EDIT: Oh, there is.. But you have to go through the OS.

No you can turn the Automatic reboot off for one use by hitting F8 during the boot process of XP. If he can get that far.

alright here is an update. thank you all for the suggestions

turns out it really was a ram problem afterall. Well looks like that so far at least.

I tried almost every suggestion but to no avail, until i started pulling out a ram stick one at a time until it finally booted! WOOHOO! And the surviving sticks even passed a memory test. Phew. Now all i have to do is RMA the broken ones as they are still sorta new.
But i think my first priority is to get a new backup hdd. Because then my comp wont break again. We all know the drill, you can wear a seatbelt your entire life without a crash, and the one time your forget it, you crash


One last thing. Though i bought two identical pairs of ram when i built this computer, one pair says "ver 2.10, rev 5.1" and the broken pair says "ver 2.10, rev 1.5". And actually i heard from a lot that these ram easily break, so i was kinda nervous when i opened up the packaging, seeing the huge difference in revision number.

Glad to hear thing's worked out.


Anytime there is a stop error code or a blue screen usually the last 3 Numbers give you what it refers too. And you can find info retaining that from MS 90% of the time.

First error you had was a 0x07E, the 2nd, a 0x050. Good thing you were able to catch them. Sometimes you can't as the automatic restart is left on. Turn it off, work's better to catch pesky issue's in the future.

 

[Rexter]

Alright now this does not make any sense at all...

So i was just about to RMA the faulty pair of ram, but i thought i should do a few more tests so i was ABSOLUTLY sure they are broken and its not some driver or the motherboard doing funny stuff. So i take out the "good" pair and put in the pair i suspect of being broken and then my computer works! "What the?" i thought, i ran vista's own memory tester quickly to see how it was and it worked fine. I then place the pair in the second dual channel slot because maybe the mobo is broken? Worked fine as well. I then put both pairs of ram back the way they were before and its fine again!
what the heck is going on!?

 

[Velvet Wafer]

*cough* How old is your PSU?

 

[Rexter]

Its from around october 2008, not older than that, thats for sure.

 

[Velvet Wafer]

you maybe have a dried out heatpipe then? i had that on an asus board... psu failure is also possible, but i doubt it is.

 

[joshiers8605]

nothing would be overheating would it?

 

[Mike0409]

You could of just had a memory hangup. happens. Sometimes just reseating the memory will clear it.

But if it keep's happening, maybe a BIOS update for supported memory.