Building a mobo from scratch?

[SkyKast]

Hey I know this is prolly crazy but if you had the proper know-how about circut boards would this be possible? And if it is has it been done? Because if it is I can see many advantages.

 

[Mussels]

Hey I know this is prolly crazy but if you had the proper know-how about circut boards would this be possible? And if it is has it been done? Because if it is I can see many advantages.

far too complicated for a person to make on their own.

 

[TheMailMan78]

far too complicated for a person to make on their own.

I think its a great idea. They even sell kits for it see....

Hell heres another one.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Impossible.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Impossible.

Nothing is impossible. Well.....me sleeping with Angelina Jolie maybe but other than that nothings impossible.

 

[BroBQ]

You would need to invest a large amount of money...

 

[MRCL]

With home tools, your mobo must measure like 10 square feet to accomodate every circuit. And one mistake (which is likely to happen) could trash it. Maybe making a mobo for the earliest CPUs would be possible, but nothing halfway modern.

 

[TheMailMan78]

With home tools, your mobo must measure like 10 square feet to accomodate every circuit. And one mistake (which is likely to happen) could trash it. Maybe making a mobo for the earliest CPUs would be possible, but nothing halfway modern.

I say he could do it with the power of 10 foot groundhogs.

 

[IggSter]

Definately possible, definately would cost about the same as a car, definately would takes years, might even work

The biggest issues you would face are:

Mobos use a Multi-layer PCB to reduce cost and shorten signal distances.
Surface mount components (due to multi-layer PCB)

 

[Deleted member 3]

Nothing is impossible. Well.....me sleeping with Angelina Jolie maybe but other than that nothings impossible.

Agreed, you could do Brad Pitt.



Designing and producing a motherboard is far too complex, a single person cannot do this. If you want to build anything, start with something simple.

 

[TheMailMan78]

I say groundhog power.

 

[SkyKast]

I think its a great idea. They even sell kits for it see....

haha funny...

 

[Duke_GuRu]

haha funny...

these kits are for simple logic functions and simple circuits not for a real PC.

Well, for starters it's nice to have such ambition, but in the real world as all of them said it requires too much money, too much time, too much knowledge and i stress on knowledge. I used to teach computer architecture, computer organization, digital logic design and microcontrollers/microprocessors. and i'm telling you it's just above Angelina jolie.

i don't want to depress you but that's the truth. but if you really want to do this and you are serious about it. I will help you. start by reading this book and when you finish you should get the picture. and you are welcome to ask me anything.

good luck

 

[Th0rn0]

In read the title and just thought... WTF!

Its possible. YOu would need ALOT of knowledge, time and money though. Even then it might not be any good.

Alternatively, piece together parts of other boards to create some sort of Frankenboard?

 

[SkyKast]

these kits are for simple logic functions and simple circuits not for a real PC.

Well, for starters it's nice to have such ambition, but in the real world as all of them said it requires too much money, too much time, too much knowledge and i stress on knowledge. I used to teach computer architecture, computer organization, digital logic design and microcontrollers/microprocessors. and i'm telling you it's just above Angelina jolie.

i don't want to depress you but that's the truth. but if you really want to do this and you are serious about it. I will help you. start by reading this book and when you finish you should get the picture. and you are welcome to ask me anything.

good luck

well thanks for all the info anf the offer but I was never intending to do this in the first place, I am not completely irrational lol

and I think you meant to make the word "this" a link to the book or something

Alternatively, piece together parts of other boards to create some sort of Frankenboard?

not that would be more reasonable but would require just as much knowledge correct?

 

[department76]

impossible. you would never get it to work, i promise.

assuming you had all the money, time, knowledge, etc. that everyone else has mentioned you would never be able to "breadboard" a working prototype becuase of factors like trace/wire length and propagation delay with the high frequencies of 1000MHz+ found all over modern motherboards.

real companies simulate everything, then have prototype PCBs printed. everything is application specific and attention to key details is what makes a good board a good board, i.e. compare ECS and Asus. a lot of r&d goes into a $300 mobo vs. a $75 one.

same with the "frankenboard" idea, it might work if you're lucky but i could almost promise you it wouldn't. imagine the physical proportions of that, a PCI-bus being 32 bits wide would need 32 wires per line on the bus, then think of 64-bit buses for RAM, etc. i'd like to see you wire up the pin-outs for a socket 1366 i7. ya, i want to see your 1,366 wires and 2,732 solder points for the cpu alone.

wiring and soldering madness.

impossible.

edit- i'm an EE student btw, you really have to take some appreciation in the complexity of even the simplest cheapo motherboard. maybe i'm arrogant for saying it, but even suggesting this idea is ignorance at best.

 

[SkyKast]

edit- i'm an EE student btw, you really have to take some appreciation in the complexity of even the simplest cheapo motherboard.

holy shit...I do appreciate it!

I was just wondering if it was plausible and if it was what it would entail

 

[department76]

holy shit...I do appreciate it!

I was just wondering if it was plausible and if it was what it would entail

just saying, lol. in that case i deem it non-plausible

 

[lemonadesoda]

There is more chance of you winning the lottery than being able to build even the SIMPLEST mainboard, even for a 8086 let alone a 386, 486, Pentium, Core 2, or Nehalem.

So my advice is: play the lottery.

If you WIN, you could COMMISSION a mainboard designer/manufacturer to build you one the way you want it.

But IF you could afford to COMMISSION, you could save a lot of money and just buy a 4 socket xeon dunnington 8 core = 32, 64GB, SSD RAID array, and you wouldnt be wanting/needing to build anything yourself.

 

[douglatins]

Wow no fu#$%ing wat hehe

 

[EnglishLion]

even in companies like ASUS MSI etc. There's no one person that can 'make' a motherboard. All motherboards are considered, designed, built etc by many people all doing their own little bit. No one person on their own would be able to achieve this even with the necessary plant/tools etc...

 

[TheMailMan78]

even in companies like ASUS MSI etc. There's no one person that can 'make' a motherboard. All motherboards are considered, designed, built etc by many people all doing their own little bit. No one person on their own would be able to achieve this even with the necessary plant/tools etc...

Batman could.

 

[95Viper]

McGuyver could w/ paper clips and gum wrappers...




I don't believe it would be plausible for the home hobbyist.

 

[RadeonX2]

you'd need a robot mobo maker/builder just like the mobo factory have not yourself

 

[MohawkAngel]

My brother could because hes so genius in designing electronic. He was hired in home electronic thermostat factory fo production he was so good they decided to transfer him to Research and development department after only 1 month.Thats a normal work but he dont want to work somewhere else for cash hes too happy with that simple work. Ok he could yes but with time and a big place lol.He is able to solder and unsolder even the smallest resistor on a motherboard.
Like me ..i would be able to fuly build a car from paper to metal but i dont have the space, the cash and the money.