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CAD/Gaming: 8-core or 6-core

peche said:
where is the OP?
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I'm around. :D

Vayra86 said:
That would have been my choice, looking at your options and the dilemma you're in now. Investing now in the Skylake i7 6700k is a múch better choice than investing in basically a dated platform with an i5 that lacks HT. Most importantly, DDR4, which is likely to be utilized to some advantage in the near future. At the same time, you will very soon find a GTX 960 lacking in the game department, especially if you ever up the resolution on the monitor. But even at 1080p the 960 will have its struggles ahead of him and I think you will already see those in the year 2016 game releases.
- its a card that is hamstrung by a relatively small bus and 2GB of VRAM, and it can hardly surpass the previous gen GTX 770 in many games. It is efficient, and that is about all that´s good about it.

Another advantage of doing the upgrade in two steps, is that you may be doing step 2 around the release of Pascal cards this year, which will give you more performance for your dollar.
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I said screw it to the budget. I'll be getting back a nice sum in taxes, so I am probably going to get i7 6700k and an R9 390 for a video card. This way, I can get the best out of gaming now, and CAD when I need it this summer.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zDz9sY

Obviously more than my initial budget, but tax money is fun to spend. :toast:
I haven't updated the power supply yet, mainly because I don't have the time to add it right now.
 
T-Bone said:
I'm around. :D



I said screw it to the budget. I'll be getting back a nice sum in taxes, so I am probably going to get i7 6700k and an R9 390 for a video card. This way, I can get the best out of gaming now, and CAD when I need it this summer.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zDz9sY

Obviously more than my initial budget, but tax money is fun to spend. :toast:
I haven't updated the power supply yet, mainly because I don't have the time to add it right now.
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If your going for the i6 6700K get a Z170 board so you can take full advantage of it.

Since your budget has expanded, I also have another suggestion that you could put a little more money in (~$90) and switch to the 5820K for 6 cores and 12 threads for your CAD.
 
Yep, with this budget and CAD you will see a huge benefit from 6 core Intel.
 
T-Bone said:
I'm around. :D
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how much is your budget? you said arround $850, but the list you added is like $1200
Please update lad...
 
GhostRyder said:
If your going for the i6 6700K get a Z170 board so you can take full advantage of it.

Since your budget has expanded, I also have another suggestion that you could put a little more money in (~$90) and switch to the 5820K for 6 cores and 12 threads for your CAD.
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Vayra86 said:
Yep, with this budget and CAD you will see a huge benefit from 6 core Intel.
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I thought the only major difference between H170 and Z170 was nothing more than overclock ability and multiple graphics cards?

peche said:
how much is your budget? you said arround $850, but the list you added is like $1200
Please update lad...
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Since I'll be getting back a hefty sum in tax, I'd bump up the budget to about $1200 like it is now.
 
T-Bone said:
Since I'll be getting back a hefty sum in tax, I'd bump up the budget to about $1200 like it is now.
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let me help lad....
there is your new rig, as far as i knew just a rig, no displays or peripherals...

Regards,
 
T-Bone said:
I thought the only major difference between H170 and Z170 was nothing more than overclock ability and multiple graphics cards?



Since I'll be getting back a hefty sum in tax, I'd bump up the budget to about $1200 like it is now.
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Well it really is but if your going to invest in it, I would recommend having the Z170 board in case you do want to.
 
@peche do you work for Thermaltake by chance or do you just love the brand?*

* no offense; honest question

@T-Bone definately go for an i7 instead of an i5. Some CAD programms benefit from the additional logical cores already and I'm sure that we see better utilization of multiple cores across almost all software in 1-2 years time. Especially now that Moore's Law is falling flat on its face which will surely lead to even more emphasis on parallelism. DirectX 12 will be of help as well.
Having said that, I wonder what Zen will be able to bring to the table...
 
I want to update everyone!

I found out today that I will have a company machine that will be provided to me in the office, however, I may still receive a home license for CAD. With that in mind I decided to make my machine more gaming efficient, but still be able to run CAD on occasion, as I won't be using it primarily for CAD.

With that being said,

GhostRyder said:
Well it really is but if your going to invest in it, I would recommend having the Z170 board in case you do want to.
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I took your advice. Why not get a Z170 in case I wanted to overclock in the future, which I will probably end up doing because I like power.
Which lead me to invest a couple extra dollars into a liquid CPU cooler as recommended by @peche.

Sorry to complicate things by changing the whole purpose of the system, but since I won't need it all the time for AutoCAD, I may as well use the $ to make a decent gaming rig that will be able to run CAD from time-to-time.

Updated updated system
 
@T-Bone Now u looking great :D

OC the 6600K with a Z170 @4.3-4.5 Ghz will be full stable and nice performance bump

GG
 
Dethroy said:
@peche do you work for Thermaltake by chance or do you just love the brand?*

* no offense; honest question
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love the brand, i will work there for free....

T-Bone said:
Which lead me to invest a couple extra dollars into a liquid CPU cooler as recommended by @peche.
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thats pretty nice, Corsair new hidro series are pretty interesting, also EWKB has made some interesting AIO units,
i like that much the maintenance free way of the AIO's you just have to take out rad fans and clean as you might do every year with the whole rig!
tell us when the rig is done! also if posible pics!

Regards,
 
peche said:
tell us when the rig is done! also if posible pics!

Regards,
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For sure. I ordered the motherboard and will be going in to Best Buy today to get the processor and price match it with Amazon.

Once I have most of the components, I'll start a thread in the Project Logs section! ( And update here as well )

Thanks to everyone!
 
T-Bone said:
For sure. I ordered the motherboard and will be going in to Best Buy today to get the processor and price match it with Amazon.

Once I have most of the components, I'll start a thread in the Project Logs section! ( And update here as well )

Thanks to everyone!
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you list does not shown the Watercooler, what do you think you will use lad?

Regards,
 
peche said:
add a second fan, for a push/pull fan configuration lad!
corsair SP120 are great fans ! consider a second one ! or if you preffer silent and nice ! Tt Riing 12
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Way ahead of you! I picked up several Riing 12's yesterday at Best Buy! :cool:
 
If you wondering about multi-core support. Well, from their site -> https://knowledge.autodesk.com/supp...t-for-multi-core-processors-with-AutoCAD.html

To fully benefit from multi-core processors, you need to use multi-threaded software; AutoCAD is predominantly a single-threaded application.
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Though, I believe AutoCAD does benefit from a good GPU with compute. Let me go hunt about on that info.

Seems it does benefit. A good ole GTX 780 through GTX Titan would do a good job on that. Since Maxwell got gimp in that department.
 
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T-Bone said:
Way ahead of you! I picked up several Riing 12's yesterday at Best Buy! :cool:
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for cheap ?
dammit here those bitches are ultra expensive, since they are new products.... pretty silent, even connected directly to molex ...!
 
peche said:
for cheap ?
dammit here those bitches are ultra expensive, since they are new products.... pretty silent, even connected directly to molex ...!
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4 of them for $25. An employee discount has its perks on some items. :D
 
T-Bone said:
4 of them for $25. An employee discount has its perks on some items. :D
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need 4 for my case... 3ple fan configuration on front intake ... 1 more for bottom intake lad...
 
hat said:
Eh...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/skylake-intel-core-i7-6700k-core-i5-6600k,4252-8.html

Intel is better, but I didn't want to be one of the 'screw AMD, get Intel' guys. I figured there'd be plenty of that flooding in anyway.

Surprisingly, the 6700k handily beats Haswell-E here. Even more surprisingly, the 5960x loses to the 5820k. It must not be able to handle a lot of threads efficiently.
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Has anyone else noticed, that 50$ CPU, Pentium G3220 beats every single AMD processor in AutoCAD 2015 3D benchmark? WTF?

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@FYFI13 Yeah AMD had me fooled with their "octa-core" labeling.
 
FYFI13 said:
Has anyone else noticed, that 50$ CPU, Pentium G3220 beats every single AMD processor in AutoCAD 2015 3D benchmark? WTF?

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Hard to beat that fast single thread performance. Which AutoCAD is geared still as single-thread.

Hope AMD Zen brings something nice to the table. They should have time to catch up to Intel for a bit since Intel aiming in a different direction now with their CPUs, power efficient aim.

Darn, 4770K still up there. Wonder if that at stock clocks? I still need to OC mine. Wish they show a 3930K, but I plan to use mine for different work loads instead.
 
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