can i get options on this ssd

[RodClutcher]

so do yous think this is a scam or just really bad ssd . 4tb for $110aud too cheap to be a real deal is what im thinking but maybe its just trash ... it only be for stream games and other games . buy or not ??

1080PRO Original Brand SSD M2 2280 PCIe 4.0 NGFF Read 7400MB/S SSD | eBay

※ Interface: M.2 pcie NGFF ( 2 Apertures ) (M and B key). M.2 NGFF PCIe 4.0 5.0 SSD. ※ SSD Capacity: 1TB\2TB/4TB. ※Quickness,stabilization,energy-saving,Mute,Light weight. Maximum safety with premium design.

www.ebay.com.au

 

[evernessince]

That is 100% a scam. It's very clearly intended to be a Samsung 990 knockoff using the same typography, colors, and label setup including a similar model number. There's a distinct lack of Samsung branding which is always an easy giveaway as well.

Also the images are obvious tells as well:

I see at least 2 AI generated artifacts or a very poor photo-editing job. In addition "New master"? Makes no sense.

There have been an increasing amount of 990 ripoffs since the end of 2023 so be warry of too good to be true deals.

The current price of the 990 Pro 4TB is $340 USD and it's lowest price was $280 USD. The cheapest legit 4TB drive could of been had during black friday for around $170 - 180 USD. One for $110 AUD is just way too low, that's almost certainly below the cost to produce a 4TB drive. Storage products typically carry a margin of 10 - 30% so it'd hard to cut the price by half the historical lowest unless you are talking years later, not months.

 

[RodClutcher]

That is 100% a scam. It's very clearly intended to be a Samsung 990 knockoff using the same typography, colors, and label setup including a similar model number. There's a distinct lack of Samsung branding which is always an easy giveaway as well.

Also the images are obvious tells as well:

View attachment 338734

I see at least 2 AI generated artifacts or a very poor photo-editing job. In addition "New master"? Makes no sense.

There have been an increasing amount of 990 ripoffs since the end of 2023 so be warry of too good to be true deals.

The current price of the 990 Pro 4TB is $340 USD and it's lowest price was $280 USD. The cheapest legit 4TB drive could of been had during black friday for around $170 - 180 USD. One for $110 AUD is just way too low, that's almost certainly below the cost to produce a 4TB drive. Storage products typically carry a margin of 10 - 30% so it'd hard to cut the price by half the historical lowest unless you are talking years later, not months.

i think its a scam . yeh id rather get a 2tb for more and not get ripped off but it be rude not to investigate this drive because maybe it was real ect

 

[Jetster]

Is that an SD card attached? lol

 

[Dr. Dro]

Chinese counterfeits that fraudsters peddle on online platforms. If you run ValiDrive on it you're going to find that it's either a micro-SD reader (what they usually use on "heatsinked" drives or some scrapped 64 or 128 GB SSD that had all of the markings scratched off.

This is faker than a 3 dollar bill.

 

[A&P211]

That is 100% a scam. It's very clearly intended to be a Samsung 990 knockoff using the same typography, colors, and label setup including a similar model number. There's a distinct lack of Samsung branding which is always an easy giveaway as well.

Also the images are obvious tells as well:

View attachment 338734

I see at least 2 AI generated artifacts or a very poor photo-editing job. In addition "New master"? Makes no sense.

There have been an increasing amount of 990 ripoffs since the end of 2023 so be warry of too good to be true deals.

The current price of the 990 Pro 4TB is $340 USD and it's lowest price was $280 USD. The cheapest legit 4TB drive could of been had during black friday for around $170 - 180 USD. One for $110 AUD is just way too low, that's almost certainly below the cost to produce a 4TB drive. Storage products typically carry a margin of 10 - 30% so it'd hard to cut the price by half the historical lowest unless you are talking years later, not months.

That fake 1080 is 90 better than the Samsung 990. Its 90 times better faker than the samsung 990.

 

[Chomiq]

Original Brand - sounds legit. I'd give that company my money any day.

 

[Waldorf]

I understand that some are limited in selection etc because of location and other things,
but i will never get important things like storage from non-brand sellers,
short of online shop of a (local) store.

 

[Bill_Bright]

I just looked at the link above and it says the listing was ended by the seller because the item is "no longer available". I note it does not say it was sold. Read into that whatever you want. I would have liked to have known the seller's ratings, however.

That said, I am not sure it could be called a "scam". AFAIK, 1080PRO is not a registered trademark and I don't see where it says (or said) Samsung on it. I note there are similar "too good to be true" SSDs on this US ebay page too.

Are these really bad SSDs? Probably. But it did not appear the seller was pretending it was a genuine Samsung SSD. So a "scam"? Not really.

More like an off-brand generic.

Still, caveat emptor? Absolutely!!!

 

[R-T-B]

They claim samsung NAND in this image:

It's a scam, people. Samsung does not sell the NAND that cheaply.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/uYcAAOSwE8ll3UUb/s-l1600.jpg

 

[evernessince]

They claim samsung NAND in this image:

It's a scam, people. Samsung does not sell the NAND that cheaply.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/uYcAAOSwE8ll3UUb/s-l1600.jpg

Yep, aside from very clearly copying the label design including colors and typography.

They may not be directing stamping the Samsung label on it but they are 100% trying to fool people into thinking it's a Samsung drive.

 

[P4-630]

Just RMA to samsung if it doesn't work as advertised...

 

[Bill_Bright]

They claim samsung NAND in this image:

It's a scam, people. Samsung does not sell the NAND that cheaply.

Now wait. Samsung might.

Surely, not all NAND chips meet manufacturing specs. It is common for manufacturers (in virtually all industries) to have "factory seconds". Units that have minor defects but still work - though maybe not at the required performance level.

It is common for these slightly inferior products to be sold at discount to some middle-man at significantly reduced prices. Manufactures do this all the time to prevent a total loss on that item or even an entire production run.

In fact, entire "outlet malls" are based on this premise.

I am not saying that is the case here. I am just saying it could be.

 

[Deleted member 229121]

Sufficed to say that would be a hard pass OP.
Better off getting a legit, budget oriented brand/model with actual product support than a knock-off.

 

[R-T-B]

Now wait. Samsung might.

I'm gonna side with Occam's Razor here Bill.

The razor says they reused a Samsung marketing slide to imitate a Samsung product.

 

[evernessince]

Now wait. Samsung might.

Surely, not all NAND chips meet manufacturing specs. It is common for manufacturers (in virtually all industries) to have "factory seconds". Units that have minor defects but still work - though maybe not at the required performance level.

It is common for these slightly inferior products to be sold at discount to some middle-man at significantly reduced prices. Manufactures do this all the time to prevent a total loss on that item or even an entire production run.

In fact, entire "outlet malls" are based on this premise.

I am not saying that is the case here. I am just saying it could be.

According to the SSD database, Samsung doesn't really sell a lot of it's NAND flash to other vendors in general past 64-layer NAND. There is only a single SSD utilizing recent-ish 128-layer samsung NAND and that is the SX8200 Pro from 2022. Of which has shifted away from Samsung NAND to using various other NAND chips (9 different ones in fact).

While this evidence of abscene doesn't completely nix the idea it does cast some doubt.

 

[Bill_Bright]

it does cast some doubt.

And this is my point. We can't jump to conclusions without more concrete evidence.

 

[A&P211]

Original Brand - sounds legit. I'd give that company my money any day.

Sign me up me, I started a Gofundme so that everyone on TPU can get one. Lets all donate to my Gofundme, I promise to use all money to buy this SSD and not into my early retirement account.

 

[Shrek]

About as genuine as this Western Digital looking drive

 

[Wirko]

Now wait. Samsung might.

Samsung selling their chips to someone trying hard to look like Samsung? That business relationship wouldn't last long.

 

[Athlonite]

This SSD looks faker than a 100 buck boob job

 

[Bill_Bright]

Samsung selling their chips to someone trying hard to look like Samsung? That business relationship wouldn't last long.

I agree, but it should be noted that Samsung (the world's largest maker of dynamic random access memory (DRAM) and NAND flash) makes chips (is the OEM supplier) for all sorts of other companies - not just their own devices. This is just like Micron who sells under their own name, as well as being the OEM supplier for other device makers.

Peal the labels off of many brand devices and you may see Samsung underneath.

According to the SSD database,

What SSD database? If you mean TPUs, it is comprehensive but not all inclusive. But still, did you filter the search to list all devices using flash made by Samsung? There are quite a few used by brands other than Samsung.

Once again I am NOT saying the device in RodClutcher post is legit. I am saying there is not enough evidence (or any really, other than price) to suggest it is not. And so to suggest it is a scam, fraud, fake, counterfeit is just speculation based on unfounded assumptions. There's no proof. Does it smell fishy? Yes. But so does 5 year old fish.

 

[evernessince]

What SSD database? If you mean TPUs, it is comprehensive but not all inclusive. But still, did you filter the search to list all devices using flash made by Samsung? There are quite a few used by brands other than Samsung.

Once again I am NOT saying the device in RodClutcher post is legit. I am saying there is not enough evidence (or any really, other than price) to suggest it is not. And so to suggest it is a scam, fraud, fake, counterfeit is just speculation based on unfounded assumptions. There's no proof. Does it smell fishy? Yes. But so does 5 year old fish.

Correct, the TPU SSD database. The observations in my last post was based on filtering by Samsung NAND: https://www.techpowerup.com/ssd-specs/filter/?flashMfgr=Samsung

 

[Bill_Bright]

Thanks for including that link. I meant and thought I did - but clearly I'm still suffering from my overnight decaffeination syndrome this morning.

Anyway, my point stands. Those Samsung chips could be real and authorized, or not. We don't know - so IMO, best not to make accusations without proof.