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They are.
However you can run your Rads fanless/off if you use a Chiller.
If you use a chiller there is no point in rads.
 

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Hi,
Yeah you really just need circulating cold tap water in the bucket.. that should be enough without too much condensation risk.
I think we better keep our main rad with its fan as usual, and just add an extra rad for the occasional bucket boost. replacing, circulating the outside water is not convenient. But we can use that only when our coolant is very hot. water heat conductivity is 24 times better than air (0.598 vs 0.025 wmk). What air does in half an hour, water can do just over a minute.
I think we better take the rad out of water when we gain enough boost, and put a fan next to it until much later.

I have a gpu block that I don't use anymore. I wanted to add it to my loop for sinking purpose, but I am short of two plugs

You know, when you play games for hours and need to surf the net to let the coolant cool down. Instead you can throw your rad in cold soup and after 2 minutes your pc is as good as new.
After I stop playing need for speed Payback for 90 minutes, my coolant doesn't return to the temp we started:
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See here they cook meal on their car's radiator. What if I warm up my cold burgers on pc rad, put the fan back when meal is ready:
edit: Skip to 2:14

Geothermal works well too! A guy on my team used it until he moved, his results were excellent :cool:
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Thats what i was alluding to when i said to omit the rad and use coiled copper tubing buried underground in its place. You might find a guide if you google it.
 
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If you use a chiller there is no point in rads.
That is WRONG
Try to guess what is the function of a rad in the front when you run a chiller
 
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That is WRONG
Try to guess what is the function of a rad in the front when you run a chiller

To cool more water for no benefit? To introduce another unnecessary component to an otherwise streamlined circuit? Im intrigued...what IS the function of a rad in the front (as opposed to the back) when you run a chiller?
Btw i find it a tad bit comical that your trying to correct a dude (Mr.Scott) thats probably got more actual extreme cooling years under his belt than most of us have been alive.
 

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To cool more water for no benefit?
For the simple fact that with a rad in front i can cool the inside of my Case ( VRM-RAM-MOTHERBOARD-SSD ) and some other components that could run hot.

I know what i am talking about.

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For the simple fact that with a rad in front i can cool the inside of my Case ( VRM-RAM-MOTHERBOARD-SSD ) and some other components that could run hot.

I know what i am talking about.

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So, youre saying that your chiller is so effectively cooling your rad that it is passing on the cooled air to your case? I guess its possible. My logical side says its not nearly that easy. You would have to run your chiller balls to the wall at very nearly freezing, at all times for it to make any kind of meaningful difference? Say 2-3c?
Vs removing the added restriction of your radiator, to achieve the same temp drop, with the same fans, due to the improved overall caseflow? Sorry but im sceptical man!

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So, youre saying that your chiller is so effectively cooling your rad that it is passing on the cooled air to your case? I guess its possible.
Simple as that. worked for me all the time.
It was enough to cool the water 10c below the temp inside the case and that would do the trick, also the fan were capable of moving enough air through the rad.
 
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The air running through your chilled rad is actually warming up the chilled water inside it. You don't need the rad. A front fan is plenty of moving air to cool anything in your case. If you're gonna run a chiller, you might as well use it to it's maximum to cool what it is supposed to..........your CPU. And in your case, your GPU it looks like also.
Nice Hailea BTW.

@ Maxfly- thank you. I do have about 2 decades of extreme cooling under my belt. lol
 
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