Can you help me choose: Motherboard, Memory, SSD and PSU? :)

[Poloforo]

Hello everyone, I already posted on this forum for help about choosing GPU and CPU, now that I finally decided which im taking (CPU - Ryzen 5 3600 and GPU - 5600xt or 1660 Super), I wanted to ask you if you have time and will to help me to choose other components? And before that, can you help me choose best model for 1660 super (gaming) and 5600xt also for gaming (from these 3: SAPPHIRE RX 5600 XT 6GB GDDR6 Pulse PCIE / Sapphire RX 5600 XT BE 6GB GDDR6 Pulse PCIE / SAPPHIRE 11296-01-20G RX 5600 XT 6GB GDDR6 Pulse, they are nearly same price). Sorry for long text. BUDGET: 300 - 350 euros (GPU and CPU not included).

I already created list for every component, and it’s as it follows:

a) MOTHERBOARD - before you look at the list, I wanted to ask you, is it worth taking some TOO GOOD Motherboard, if it will die in like 3-4 years? I heard they have life span of that sort. So I was planning to buy some Motherboard to 100 €, but if you think it will last longer than that (I know you can’t know that) I was planning to take 126 € one - Asus TUF Gaming B550M-PLUS to be future-proof.

1​	Gigabyte B550M Aorus PRO	105 €
2​	Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE (rev. 1.0)	94 €
3​	Gigabyte B550M DS3H (rev. 1.0)	83 €
4​	ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4	103 €
5​	MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk	146 €
6​	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX	98 €
7​	Asrock B450M-HDV R4.0	55 €
8​	MSI B450 Gaming Plus	105 €
9​	Asus TUF Gaming B550M-PLUS	126 €
10​	MSI B450M Mortar Max	95 €
11​	Asus ROG STRIX B450-F Gaming	103 €

b) Memory - If you think that 3600mhz are better for Ryzen 5 3600, write off first 2 3200mhz ones. Some guy on forum suggested me that i take some C17 memory, so I was thinking of taking Patriot 16GB Viper RGB DDR4 3600MHz CL17 KIT PVR416G360C7K.

1​	Kingston 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4/3200 (FURY)	70 € 8.100 din.
2​	CRUCIAL 16GB Ballistix Sport LT DDR4 3200M	95 € (3000 mhz su 80 €)
3​	Corsair VENGANCE RGB PRO 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3600MHz	85 €
4​	Patriot 16GB Viper RGB DDR4 3600MHz CL17 KIT PVR416G360C7K	85 €

c) SSD - I wanted some SSD with DRAM and what do you think is it better to take some cheap one SSD (but with DRAM) cuz it’s not that important for in-game performance?

1​	Samsung 500GB 860 EVO MZ-76E500B/EU	60 €
2​	SAMSUNG 500GB 860 EVO SATA3 2.5“ MZ-76E500B/EU	82 €
3​	ADATA 512GB XPG Spectrix S40G RGB M.2 PCIe M.2 2280	72 €
4​	Adata SSD SU800 ULTIMATE 512GB 2.5’’ SATA III – ASU800SS-512GT-	52 € (6.800 din.)
5​	PATRIOT 480GB Burst SATA 3 2.5“ PBU480GS25SSDR	60 evra
6​	KINGSTON 500GB A2000 M.2 SA2000M8/500G	59 €
7​	ADATA 512GB XPG SX8200 Pro M.2 PCIe M.2 2280 ASX8200PNP-512G	74 €

d) PSU - again same as for Motherboard, if they will die fast no matter the quallity, I’d rather take cheaper one.

1​	Be Quiet! System Power B9 600W	65 €
2​	Be Quiet! System Power 9 600W	65 €
3​	BE QUIET! Pure Power 11 500W CM	80 €
4​	Coolermaster MasterWatt 650W (90 evra)	90 €
5​	cooler master mwe 450w v2	No stocks
6​	BE QUIET! Pure Power 11 600W CM	90 €
7​	Seasonic S12 III 650W	60 €
8​	Seasonic S12III Bronze 650W SSR-650GB3	68 € (8.000 din.)
9​	Raidmax 700W Vortex RX-700AC-V	50 € (5.900)
10​	CoolerMaster MWE Gold 650W	80 €
11​	BE QUIET! Pure Power 11 600W	75 €

 

[ebivan]

Who told you this mainboards and PSUs would last 3-4 years? That's not right. If you treat it right (no constant overheating), it will last much longer.
Yes, hardware ages, especially capacitators age, but the most important factor here is heat. So for example in a PSU, caps will age much faster, when running a 400W PSU at 90% all the time instead of running a 650W cpu at the same 360W load, because the caps wont get the same amount of heat over time.

Anyways, I got loads of mainboards here that have been continually running for 5,6,7 years and more and have no issues. But I also had hardware dying just after 25 months, when they were fresh out of warranty. You never know. But generally speaking, 3-4 years is a very yery low estimate. I say 5-10 is much more realistic and most will even do much more than 10.
But would you want to use a mainboard that old for games in 5 or 10 years?

Mainboards, get a b550, because the b450 you listed cost the same and b550 is newer, cooler (better node), has better support for new cpus and can do pcie4 if you ever need it.

Memory, read the reviews about Zen2, decide if frequency or latency is more important to you. Generally speaking 3200MHz CL16 is the baseline. Anything faster is mostly a difference in the single digit range, so choose if that's worth spending whatever it costs more. Also check the Memory QVL List of the mainboard you decide to buy.

SSD, decide if PCIe is worth the cost. Is some cases it is, in games its normally is not. Read the reviews, benchmarks say the difference is great, but most real world experience says it doen't matter as much as benchmarks would make you think.

PSU, basically all the ones that you list are ok. Chose a PSU of the major brands, Seasonic, Corsair and BeQuiet are all good. Anything upwards of 550W is fine your setup. If you ever want to upgrade, maybe even get 100W more. Don't cheap out on the PSU, its a common thing to do so but don't!

 

[Hachi_Roku256563]

as for 3-4 years
my pentium 4 system has been running 24/7 for 20 years barh updates
it is still going fine although it doesnt see much load

 

[joemama]

For the SSD, if you want a sata ssd, I would recommend the Micron MX500
For PSU, I prefer BE QUIET! Pure Power 11 600W

 

[Hachi_Roku256563]

its not on that list but you should get a wd blue

 

[birdie]

1. All of the motherboards I've ever owned lived for at least 10 years (after that no idea - I no longer own them). One required to have its capacitors being replaced but other than that it was as good as new.
2. RAM modules without knowing their timings and OC potential are hard to choose from.
3. AFAIK SSD's DRAM helps only for write [speeds]. It's pretty much useless for read performance which means for games there's not too much difference.
4. I purchase PSUs only based on their noise/power stability. Most of the PSUs you're looking at are an overkill. BE QUIET! Pure Power 11 500W CM is a great PSU in terms of the bang for the buck.

Most SSDs tend to die abruptly without giving you an option to salvage a single byte off them. Have backups if you value your data.

 

[Hachi_Roku256563]

ive only even had a ssd run out of rights and still been functionalsa

 

[Athlonite]

11 4 7 7 or if you can scrap up a wee bit more get the Adata XPG SX8200 pro 1TB

 

[Poloforo]

Who told you this mainboards and PSUs would last 3-4 years? That's not right. If you treat it right (no constant overheating), it will last much longer.
Yes, hardware ages, especially capacitators age, but the most important factor here is heat. So for example in a PSU, caps will age much faster, when running a 400W PSU at 90% all the time instead of running a 650W cpu at the same 360W load, because the caps wont get the same amount of heat over time.

Anyways, I got loads of mainboards here that have been continually running for 5,6,7 years and more and have no issues. But I also had hardware dying just after 25 months, when they were fresh out of warranty. You never know. But generally speaking, 3-4 years is a very low estimate. I say 5-10 is much more realistic, you would you want to use a mainboard that old for games in 5 or 10 years?

Mainboards, get a b550, because the b450 you listed cost the same and b550 is newer, cooler (better node), has better support for new cpus and can do pcie4 if you ever need it.

Memory, read the reviews about Zen2, decide if frequency or latency is more important to you. Generally speaking 3200MHz CL16 is the baseline. Anything faster is mostly a difference in the single digit range, so choose if that's worth spending whatever it costs more. Also check the Memory QVL List of the mainboard you decide to buy.

SSD, decide if PCIe is worth the cost. Is some cases it is, in games its normally is not. Read the reviews, benchmarks say the difference is great, but most real world experience says it doen't matter as much as benchmarks would make you think.

PSU, basically all the ones that you list are ok. Chose a PSU of the major brands, Seasonic, Corsair and BeQuiet are all good. Anything upwards of 550W is fine your setup. If you ever want to upgrade, maybe even get 100W more. Don't cheap out on the PSU, its a common thing to do so but don't!

Thank you very much, for the life span of PSUs and Motheboards life span I looked at Google results and I belived because I have no idea about anything.

As for what you said for Memory I really don't know what is better for gaming, I read that 3600mhz iz good for Ryzen 5 3600, so that's why I chose those. Someone from other forum suggested me C17 over C16, but the prices for both are same, and I honestly have no idea what's the difference, I looked on YouTube benchmarks and it's nearly the same.

SSD: Well the price difference between those I listed is 10 euros or for some it's even the same. I'll look for some reviews.

For PSU I decided Seasonic Core GM-650 , and someone said I can register on their site for 7 year warranty.

For the SSD, if you want a sata ssd, I would recommend the Micron MX500
For PSU, I prefer BE QUIET! Pure Power 11 600W

Hi, ty. But that you tell me the reason why that SSD over the others? Just want to learn more.

its not on that list but you should get a wd blue

Hello, thanks. You meant this one https://www.eponuda.com/ssd-diskovi...530mb-s-wds500g2b0a-ssd-hard-disk-cena-416021 ? The price is 65 euros. So if I may, same question as for @joemama can you tell me why that SSD over the others?

1. All of the motherboards I've ever owned lived for at least 10 years (after that no idea - I no longer own them). One required to have its capacitors being replaced but other than that it was as good as new.
2. RAM modules without knowing their timings and OC potential are hard to choose from.
3. AFAIK SSD's DRAM helps only for write [speeds]. It's pretty much useless for read performance which means for games there's not too much difference.
4. I purchase PSUs only based on their noise/power stability. Most of the PSUs you're looking at are an overkill. BE QUIET! Pure Power 11 500W CM is a great PSU in terms of the bang for the buck.

Most SSDs tend to die abruptly without giving you an option to salvage a single byte off them. Have backups if you value your data.

Hi, thanks.
1) Wow that's some nice age.
2) Can you tell me what are timings for RAM? As for overclocking, I don't plan to do that.
3) So do you suggest me to get any cheapest SSD with DRAM? As for backup I honestly only want to save one game so I don't have to wait 24 hours to download it again (really bad internet) and nothing more. xD
4) For this I think I'll listen @ebivan and go for some 650W one just to be future proof for that little price difference.

ive only even had a ssd run out of rights and still been functionalsa

Hello, thank you for the answer. Can you tell me what you meant by "Run out of rights", you meant warranty?

11 4 7 7 or if you can scrap up a wee bit more get the Adata XPG SX8200 pro 1TB

Hello, thanks. Honestly 1TB is overkill for me and I really can't invest anymore. xD As for you suggestion, I think It's better idea if I take B550 mb to be future proof. As for memory and SSD I also got that suggestion on other forums. And lastly on my list I didn't have Seasonic Core GM-650 , is it better than the one you suggested?

 

[Athlonite]

I: then get the Asus Strix B550 mobo then
2: the 1TB SX8200 will last you longer as it has a higher TB written and is cooler and faster than the 512GB one
3: Any Seasonic 650W PSU is going to do you a fine job of clean and stable power

 

[Poloforo]

I: then get the Asus Strix B550 mobo then
2: the 1TB SX8200 will last you longer as it has a higher TB written and is cooler and faster than the 512GB one
3: Any Seasonic 650W PSU is going to do you a fine job of clean and stable power

1) It's 170 euros here and my budget is already really tight, I would have to cut some other component then.
2) Same as for the 1st, it's double the price. Does SSD memory wear off? I mean does it lose memory by time passing by?
3) Alright.

 

[Rei]

1) It's 170 euros here and my budget is already really tight, I would have to cut some other component then.
2) Same as for the 1st, it's double the price. Does SSD memory wear off? I mean does it lose memory by time passing by?
3) Alright.

SSDs have a shorter lifespan than mechanical HDD. But as long as you use it as an OS drive only filling it with games & other program software & NOT as a normal file storage & just playing the copy/cut/paste game as well as maintain it regularly with TRIM, then your SSD should last you for at least a decade depending on the SSD type.

 

[Athlonite]

1) It's 170 euros here and my budget is already really tight, I would have to cut some other component then. Ok so wee bit out of budget then go with this Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE (rev. 1.0)

2) Same as for the 1st, it's double the price. Does SSD memory wear off? I mean does it lose memory by time passing by? >> Not so much time but the amount of data written Nand flash has a limited amount of write cycles before a cell will stop working but if price is a big concern then why not just go with a SATA 2.5" SSD for the same size at half the price you'll not really notice that much of a difference in game loading windows boot times anyways

3) Alright.

 

[Poloforo]

SSDs have a shorter lifespan than mechanical HDD. But as long as you use it as an OS drive only filling it with games & other program software & NOT as a normal file storage & just playing the copy/cut/paste game, then your SSD should last you for at least a decade depending on the SSD type.

Heyyyy Rei Oh nice, oh no no, I will only use it to store OS and WoW, and ofcourse Chrome and other programs I use often.

 

[Rei]

Heyyyy Rei Oh nice, oh no no, I will only use it to store OS and WoW, and ofcourse Chrome and other programs I use often.

Then pick any of the reliable & well known SSD brand & you are good to go. Hopefully anyone else who are more knowledgeable than me concerning individual products can pitch in to give you a good recommendation.

 

[Poloforo]

@Athlonite
Gigabyte B550M AORUS ELITE (rev. 1.0) sorry but is it better than Gigabyte B550M Aorus PRO? I'm really bothering you now... Do you have any suggestion for that SSDs (SATA 2.5" SSD), I mean some reliable brands?

 

[Athlonite]

pick a brand any brand chances are you'll the exact same perf

as for the mobo here's the compare of both make up your own mind

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Comparison/Result/2?pids=7417,7430

apart from a few ports and slightly better audio on the Pro there's no real difference

 

[Poloforo]

pick a brand any brand chances are you'll the exact same perf

as for the mobo here's the compare of both make up your own mind

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Comparison/Result/2?pids=7417,7430

apart from a few ports and slightly better audio on the Pro there's no real difference

Thank you very much

 

[ebivan]

For the SSDs, in the past I have had (and still have) a bunch of Samsung EVO 850 and 860 and also lots of Crucial (Micron) MX500 running here in several office and gaming PCs, I use them even in my servers , in sizes of 256GB to 2TB, I never had an issue with either of them. Just don't get Samsung QVO or Crucial BX500, they're are shit!
Often the Crucial MX cost 10% or even 20% less than the Samsung EVO, so I guess that's a good bang for the buck. I Never had SSDs from other brands, so I can't say anything about them. Samsung an Crucial have always been reliable for me.

As for TBW, that's not important for you. As long as you don't dabble with heavy databases, huge video productions or something similar, you will never reach critical TBW on modern SSDs and SSDs should be more reliable than HDDs in that use case.

About memory, basically using 3600MHz is overclocking as Ryzen are officially specified for 3200MHz and anything faster is overclocking
There is a comprehensive article about Zen 2 memory scaling here on TPU, I think after reading that you can make an informed decision what memory you want:

AMD Zen 2 Memory Performance Scaling with Ryzen 9 3900X

We take a close look at memory scaling on AMD's new Zen 2 Ryzen 3900X, testing both application and gaming performance at seven different memory speed and timing combinations ranging from 2400 MHz all the way up to 4000 MHz.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Poloforo]

For the SSDs, in the past I have had (and still have) a bunch of Samsung EVO 850 and 860 and also lots of Crucial (Micron) MX500 running here in several office and gaming PCs, I use them even in my servers , in sizes of 256GB to 2TB, I never had an issue with either of them. Just don't get Samsung QVO or Crucial BX500, they're are shit!
Often the Crucial MX cost 10% or even 20% less than the Samsung EVO, so I guess that's a good bang for the buck. I Never had SSDs from other brands, so I can't say anything about them. Samsung an Crucial have always been reliable for me.

As for TBW, that's not important for you. As long as you don't dabble with heavy databases, huge video productions or something similar, you will never reach critical TBW on modern SSDs and SSDs should be more reliable than HDDs in that use case.

About memory, basically using 3600MHz is overclocking as Ryzen are officially specified for 3200MHz and anything faster is overclocking
There is a comprehensive article about Zen 2 memory scaling here on TPU, I think after reading that you can make an informed decision what memory you want:

AMD Zen 2 Memory Performance Scaling with Ryzen 9 3900X

We take a close look at memory scaling on AMD's new Zen 2 Ryzen 3900X, testing both application and gaming performance at seven different memory speed and timing combinations ranging from 2400 MHz all the way up to 4000 MHz.

www.techpowerup.com

Thank youuu, guess I'll go for SSD you suggested, they are cheaper anyway and you have experience with them so it's decided.

As for Memory, then you suggest me 3200mhz one for Ryzen 5 3600 (I won't overlock my CPU) and please please, if it's not too much to ask for, can you give me suggestion which 16 gb (2x8) one to take from these 2 links? For gaming specificaly, and nothing else. Sorry.

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KupujemProdajem

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[Provin915]

Currently, thinking about a MSI B550-A PRO for my new Ryzen 5 5600X combined with 32GB 3600 mhz RAM. Any advice?