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Peeps will still line up to buy it cus it's Nvidia unfortunately.My advice? Vote with your wallet and don't get worked up over what companies or consumers do
Peeps will still line up to buy it cus it's Nvidia unfortunately.My advice? Vote with your wallet and don't get worked up over what companies or consumers do
Processor | Ryzen 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar B650 (wifi) |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 |
Memory | 32GB Kingston Fury |
Video Card(s) | Gainward RTX4070ti |
Storage | Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 1TB / Samsumg 960 Pro M.2 512Gb |
Display(s) | LG 32" 165Hz 1440p GSYNC |
Case | Asus Prime AP201 |
Audio Device(s) | On Board |
Power Supply | be quiet! Pure POwer M12 850w Gold (ATX3.0) |
Software | W10 |
Maybe AMD is talking out their ass too, using FSR Performance just to bring FPS >60 with RT , meanwhile without FSR it looks like FPS are around 20-25
System Name | The de-ploughminator Mk-II |
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Processor | i7 13700KF |
Motherboard | MSI Z790 Carbon |
Cooling | ID-Cooling SE-226-XT + Phanteks T30 |
Memory | 2x16GB G.Skill DDR5 7200Cas34 |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX4090 TUF |
Storage | Kingston KC3000 2TB NVME |
Display(s) | LG OLED CX48" |
Case | Corsair 5000D Air |
Power Supply | Corsair HX850 |
Mouse | Razor Viper Ultimate |
Keyboard | Corsair K75 |
Software | win11 |
Well, 3090ti at 4k with RT gets 24fps without DLSS. So, if you're suggesting the $1000 AMD card has the same raw RT as that, I'd say AMD has done well on that front.
Processor | Ryzen 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar B650 (wifi) |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 |
Memory | 32GB Kingston Fury |
Video Card(s) | Gainward RTX4070ti |
Storage | Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 1TB / Samsumg 960 Pro M.2 512Gb |
Display(s) | LG 32" 165Hz 1440p GSYNC |
Case | Asus Prime AP201 |
Audio Device(s) | On Board |
Power Supply | be quiet! Pure POwer M12 850w Gold (ATX3.0) |
Software | W10 |
Processor | Ryzen 5 5700x |
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Motherboard | B550 Elite |
Cooling | Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs |
Display(s) | LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27'' |
Case | Lian Li Lancool II performance |
Power Supply | MSI 750w |
Mouse | G502 |
My advice? Vote with your wallet and don't get worked up over what companies or consumers do
Processor | AMD Ryzen 3800X / AMD 8350 |
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Motherboard | ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming X / Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 Revision 3.0 |
Cooling | Stock / Corsair H100 |
Memory | 32GB / 24GB |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire RX 6800 / AMD Radeon 290X (Toggling until 6950XT) |
Storage | C:\ 1TB SSD, D:\ RAID-1 1TB SSD, 2x4TB-RAID-1 |
Display(s) | Samsung U32E850R |
Case | be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Black rev. 2 / Fractal Design |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova 1300G2 / EVGA Supernova 850G+ |
Mouse | Logitech M-U0007 |
Keyboard | Logitech G110 / Logitech G110 |
System Name | RyzenGtEvo/ Asus strix scar II |
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Processor | Amd R5 5900X/ Intel 8750H |
Motherboard | Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus |
Cooling | 360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu ek suprim Gpu full cover all EK |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in four sticks./16Gb/16GB |
Video Card(s) | Powercolour RX7900XT Reference/Rtx 2060 |
Storage | Silicon power 2TB nvme/8Tb external/1Tb samsung Evo nvme 2Tb sata ssd/1Tb nvme |
Display(s) | Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync.dell shiter |
Case | Lianli 011 dynamic/strix scar2 |
Audio Device(s) | Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset |
Power Supply | corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock |
Mouse | Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless |
Keyboard | Roccat Aimo 120 |
VR HMD | Oculus rift |
Software | Win 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | 8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506 |
System Name | - |
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Processor | Ryzen 9 5900X |
Motherboard | MSI MEG X570 |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 (4x140 push-pull) |
Memory | 32GB Patriot Steel DDR4 3733 (8GBx4) |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 4080 X-trio. |
Storage | Sabrent Rocket-Plus-G 2TB, Crucial P1 1TB, WD 1TB sata. |
Display(s) | LG Ultragear 34G750 nano-IPS 34" utrawide |
Case | Define R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Xfi PCIe |
Power Supply | Fractal Design ION Gold 750W |
Mouse | Razer DeathAdder V2 Mini. |
Keyboard | Logitech K120 |
VR HMD | Er no, pointless. |
Software | Windows 10 22H2 |
Benchmark Scores | Timespy - 24522 | Crystalmark - 7100/6900 Seq. & 84/266 QD1 | |
Processor | Intel® Core™ i7-13700K |
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Motherboard | Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 |
Memory | 32GB(2x16) DDR5@6600MHz G-Skill Trident Z5 |
Video Card(s) | ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3080 AMP Holo |
Storage | 2TB SK Platinum P41 SSD + 4TB SanDisk Ultra SSD + 500GB Samsung 840 EVO SSD |
Display(s) | Acer Predator X34 3440x1440@100Hz G-Sync |
Case | NZXT PHANTOM410-BK |
Audio Device(s) | Creative X-Fi Titanium PCIe |
Power Supply | Corsair 850W |
Mouse | Logitech Hero G502 SE |
Software | Windows 11 Pro - 64bit |
Benchmark Scores | 30FPS in NFS:Rivals |
That's no such thing as "a better price" with 4000 generation cards from nGreedia.Well, either fork up 1600usd and buy a 4090 now, or wait a year for 4080Super or 4070Super with much better pricing.
Processor | Ryzen 5 5700x |
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Motherboard | B550 Elite |
Cooling | Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs |
Display(s) | LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27'' |
Case | Lian Li Lancool II performance |
Power Supply | MSI 750w |
Mouse | G502 |
They, Nvidia. Just vindicated all those previous naysayers.
And proved once again what a shitty company they are, absolutely disgraceful.
If they had a flag I'd burn it.
They will End the Pc gaming ecosystem given time, by pricing it beyond the masses.
System Name | main/SFFHTPCARGH!(tm)/Xiaomi Mi TV Stick/Samsung Galaxy S23/Ally |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D/i7-3770/S905X/Snapdragon 8 Gen 2/Ryzen Z1 Extreme |
Motherboard | MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk/HP SFF Q77 Express/uh?/uh?/Asus |
Cooling | Enermax ETS-T50 Axe aRGB /basic HP HSF /errr.../oh! liqui..wait, no:sizable vapor chamber/a nice one |
Memory | 64gb Corsair Vengeance Pro 3600mhz DDR4/8gb DDR3 1600/2gb LPDDR3/8gb LPDDR5x 4200/16gb LPDDR5 |
Video Card(s) | Hellhound Spectral White RX 7900 XTX 24gb/GT 730/Mali 450MP5/Adreno 740/RDNA3 768 core |
Storage | 250gb870EVO/500gb860EVO/2tbSandisk/NVMe2tb+1tb/4tbextreme V2/1TB Arion/500gb/8gb/256gb/2tb SN770M |
Display(s) | X58222 32" 2880x1620/32"FHDTV/273E3LHSB 27" 1920x1080/6.67"/AMOLED 2X panel FHD+120hz/FHD 120hz |
Case | Cougar Panzer Max/Elite 8300 SFF/None/back/back-front Gorilla Glass Victus 2+ UAG Monarch Carbon |
Audio Device(s) | Logi Z333/SB Audigy RX/HDMI/HDMI/Dolby Atmos/KZ x HBB PR2/Edifier STAX Spirit S3 & SamsungxAKG beans |
Power Supply | Chieftec Proton BDF-1000C /HP 240w/12v 1.5A/4Smart Voltplug PD 30W/Asus USB-C 65W |
Mouse | Speedlink Sovos Vertical-Asus ROG Spatha-Logi Ergo M575/Xiaomi XMRM-006/touch/touch |
Keyboard | Endorfy Thock 75% <3/none/touch/virtual |
VR HMD | Medion Erazer |
Software | Win10 64/Win8.1 64/Android TV 8.1/Android 13/Win11 64 |
Benchmark Scores | bench...mark? i do leave mark on bench sometime, to remember which one is the most comfortable. :o |
System Name | AlderLake / Laptop |
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Processor | Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz / Intel i3 7100U |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master / HP 83A3 (U3E1) |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans / Fan |
Memory | 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36 / 8GB DDR4 HyperX CL13 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio / Intel HD620 |
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 / Samsung 256GB M.2 SSD |
Display(s) | 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p / 14" 1080p IPS Glossy |
Case | Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window / HP Pavilion |
Audio Device(s) | Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W / Powerbrick |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless / Logitech M330 wireless |
Keyboard | RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless / HP backlit |
Software | Windows 11 / Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock |
Processor | AMD Ryzen 3700x |
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Motherboard | asus ROG Strix B-350I Gaming |
Cooling | Deepcool LS520 SE |
Memory | crucial ballistix 32Gb DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3070 FE |
Storage | WD sn550 1To/WD ssd sata 1To /WD black sn750 1To/Seagate 2To/WD book 4 To back-up |
Display(s) | LG GL850 |
Case | Dan A4 H2O |
Audio Device(s) | sennheiser HD58X |
Power Supply | Corsair SF600 |
Mouse | MX master 3 |
Keyboard | Master Key Mx |
Software | win 11 pro |
So the GTX 1000/900 was also a scam then? the x80 was a xx104, when the x60 was a xx106. And here I thought that people loved those gen but more seriously, ADA seems to be really expensive to manufacture, the die name checks out, but anything below the 4090 gets more and more underwhelmingSo now instead of 60 series being rebadged as 80 its 60 series being rebadged to 70Ti, and sheep will be lining up in hoards to buy them.
System Name | M3401 notebook |
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Processor | 5600H |
Motherboard | NA |
Memory | 16GB |
Video Card(s) | 3050 |
Storage | 500GB SSD |
Display(s) | 14" OLED screen of the laptop |
Software | Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | 3050 scores good 15-20% lower than average, despite ASUS's claims that it has uber cooling. |
Who cares about names, really.Why? Because it is a *04 chip?
Well... maybe in DF reviews...The 4070Ti should be faster than a 3090Ti
Ah, AMD's fault again, because of course, chuckle.AMD would fire their marketing team
System Name | AlderLake / Laptop |
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Processor | Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz / Intel i3 7100U |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master / HP 83A3 (U3E1) |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans / Fan |
Memory | 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36 / 8GB DDR4 HyperX CL13 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio / Intel HD620 |
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 / Samsung 256GB M.2 SSD |
Display(s) | 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p / 14" 1080p IPS Glossy |
Case | Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window / HP Pavilion |
Audio Device(s) | Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W / Powerbrick |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless / Logitech M330 wireless |
Keyboard | RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless / HP backlit |
Software | Windows 11 / Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock |
System Name | RyzenGtEvo/ Asus strix scar II |
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Processor | Amd R5 5900X/ Intel 8750H |
Motherboard | Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus |
Cooling | 360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu ek suprim Gpu full cover all EK |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in four sticks./16Gb/16GB |
Video Card(s) | Powercolour RX7900XT Reference/Rtx 2060 |
Storage | Silicon power 2TB nvme/8Tb external/1Tb samsung Evo nvme 2Tb sata ssd/1Tb nvme |
Display(s) | Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync.dell shiter |
Case | Lianli 011 dynamic/strix scar2 |
Audio Device(s) | Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset |
Power Supply | corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock |
Mouse | Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless |
Keyboard | Roccat Aimo 120 |
VR HMD | Oculus rift |
Software | Win 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | 8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506 |
Good question, is it actually the apologist's, buyer's and fan's.so it's nvidia's fault people line up to buy their overpriced cards? they should lower the prices because they hate money?
who is really at fault here?
Processor | Ryzen 5 7600X |
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Motherboard | ASRock B650M PG Riptide |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 |
Memory | DDR5 6000Mhz CL28 32GB |
Video Card(s) | Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Palit GamingPro OC |
Storage | Corsair MP600 Force Series Gen.4 1TB |
Just simple math, 4090 has 70% more cores than 4080 16GB, and the score is just 25% higher. Wanna bet of how reliable are these results from 3dtrash?
Processor | Ryzen 5 5700x |
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Motherboard | B550 Elite |
Cooling | Thermalright Perless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | 32GB Fury Beast DDR4 3200Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte 3060 ti gaming oc pro |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB, WD SN850x 1TB, plus some random HDDs |
Display(s) | LG 27gp850 1440p 165Hz 27'' |
Case | Lian Li Lancool II performance |
Power Supply | MSI 750w |
Mouse | G502 |
Good question, is it actually the apologist's, buyer's and fan's.
Because it's those glancing past what's just happened IE they originally tried to butt fÂŁ#@ they're own consumer's, and backing it as all fine nothing to see here that Could be the issue I agree.
I know who I blame you do you.
Processor | i7 8700k 4.6Ghz @ 1.24V |
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Motherboard | AsRock Fatal1ty K6 Z370 |
Cooling | beQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 |
Memory | 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200/C16 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 830 256GB + Crucial BX100 250GB + Toshiba 1TB HDD |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440) |
Case | Fractal Design Define R5 |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | XTRFY M42 |
Keyboard | Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II |
Software | W10 x64 |
Exactly. Stop being sheep, because you are if you think some social media noise constitutes what actually happens on the market - or in the world tbh.My advice? Vote with your wallet and don't get worked up over what companies or consumers do
Consumers are the ones with power, but they are being manipulated, and there should be a wise government above them to keep that manipulation out of markets.Consumers are the ones with all the power here, that's the ones i blame.
There's also the ones that allow this monopolies and duopolies but that's another discussion. If there were enough competition things would not be like this.
System Name | Bragging Rights |
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Processor | Atom Z3735F 1.33GHz |
Motherboard | It has no markings but it's green |
Cooling | No, it's a 2.2W processor |
Memory | 2GB DDR3L-1333 |
Video Card(s) | Gen7 Intel HD (4EU @ 311MHz) |
Storage | 32GB eMMC and 128GB Sandisk Extreme U3 |
Display(s) | 10" IPS 1280x800 60Hz |
Case | Veddha T2 |
Audio Device(s) | Apparently, yes |
Power Supply | Samsung 18W 5V fast-charger |
Mouse | MX Anywhere 2 |
Keyboard | Logitech MX Keys (not Cherry MX at all) |
VR HMD | Samsung Oddyssey, not that I'd plug it into this though.... |
Software | W10 21H1, barely |
Benchmark Scores | I once clocked a Celeron-300A to 564MHz on an Abit BE6 and it scored over 9000. |
System Name | M3401 notebook |
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Processor | 5600H |
Motherboard | NA |
Memory | 16GB |
Video Card(s) | 3050 |
Storage | 500GB SSD |
Display(s) | 14" OLED screen of the laptop |
Software | Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | 3050 scores good 15-20% lower than average, despite ASUS's claims that it has uber cooling. |
This could be "addressed" by saying "you know, 4090 is much faster than usual" (which it actually isn't, but hey).So the 4070Ti has fewer than half the cores of the 4090, presumably the vanilla 4070 will be a cut-down to around 6500 CUDA cores for the sake of product segmentation.
What this means, is that the gap between the 4090 and 4070 is about the same size as the gap between the 3090 and the wimpy little 3060 - at least in terms of core count. The 3060's GK106 was such a big disappointment in terms of how chopped down it was, that it struggles to beat the 2060 Super from its previous generation.
System Name | Personal / HTPC |
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Processor | Ryzen 5900x / i5-4460 |
Motherboard | Asrock x570 Phantom Gaming 4 /ASRock Z87 Extreme4 |
Cooling | Corsair H100i / stock HSF |
Memory | 32GB DDR4 3200 / 8GB DDR3 1600 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA XC3 Ultra RTX 3080Ti / EVGA RTX 3060 XC |
Storage | 500GB Pro 970, 250 GB SSD, 1TB & 500GB Western Digital / 2x 4TB & 1x 8TB WD Red, 2TB SSD & 4TB SSD |
Display(s) | Dell - S3220DGF 32" LED Curved QHD FreeSync Monitor / 50" LCD TV |
Case | CoolerMaster HAF XB Evo / CM HAF XB Evo |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G35 headset |
Power Supply | 850W SeaSonic X Series / 750W SeaSonic X Series |
Mouse | Logitech G502 |
Keyboard | Black Microsoft Natural Elite Keyboard |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64 / Windows 10 Pro 64 |
the price will suck big time but im curious how this gpu will perform
would it be a 3080ti/90 similar equivalent? or maybe the 3080 10/12gb in between.
wonder where this gpu will slot into
Processor | i7 8700k 4.6Ghz @ 1.24V |
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Motherboard | AsRock Fatal1ty K6 Z370 |
Cooling | beQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 |
Memory | 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200/C16 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 830 256GB + Crucial BX100 250GB + Toshiba 1TB HDD |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440) |
Case | Fractal Design Define R5 |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | XTRFY M42 |
Keyboard | Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II |
Software | W10 x64 |
You've earned an unignore from me with this nuanced post I think you're right. Margins are under pressure, and this is the first attempt at keeping them intact.This could be "addressed" by saying "you know, 4090 is much faster than usual" (which it actually isn't, but hey).
However, consequences from that statement should be a much more modest pricing on the lower part of the lineup, which is nowhere to be seen.
I could imagine that that faux "4nm" process is quite pricey, so NV won't be able to have competitive pricing anywhere where AMD's MCM chips (with cheaper memory!!!) are present.
System Name | Bragging Rights |
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Processor | Atom Z3735F 1.33GHz |
Motherboard | It has no markings but it's green |
Cooling | No, it's a 2.2W processor |
Memory | 2GB DDR3L-1333 |
Video Card(s) | Gen7 Intel HD (4EU @ 311MHz) |
Storage | 32GB eMMC and 128GB Sandisk Extreme U3 |
Display(s) | 10" IPS 1280x800 60Hz |
Case | Veddha T2 |
Audio Device(s) | Apparently, yes |
Power Supply | Samsung 18W 5V fast-charger |
Mouse | MX Anywhere 2 |
Keyboard | Logitech MX Keys (not Cherry MX at all) |
VR HMD | Samsung Oddyssey, not that I'd plug it into this though.... |
Software | W10 21H1, barely |
Benchmark Scores | I once clocked a Celeron-300A to 564MHz on an Abit BE6 and it scored over 9000. |
Yup. The 3080 is a "$699" MSRP after all, and despite the mad pricing for most of its life you can now buy them used for $550 as well as find them at MSRP.If the 4070 is around a 3080 performance, it would need to come priced in at $499 or less
Yeah, if they take the "faster than usual" argument to heart, then it should mean that the pricing on AD104 and AD106 products are far more reasonable.This could be "addressed" by saying "you know, 4090 is much faster than usual" (which it actually isn't, but hey).
However, consequences from that statement should be a much more modest pricing on the lower part of the lineup, which is nowhere to be seen.
I could imagine that that faux "4nm" process is quite pricey, so NV won't be able to have competitive pricing anywhere where AMD's MCM chips (with cheaper memory!!!) are present.