Case - mobo - cpu - ram suggestions for desktop upgrade?

[Black Panther]

What is it your referring to here?

Could be missing the point completely but surely not?

2073600 1920x1080
2304000 1920x1200
4096000 2560 x 1600

Quite a fare difference in pixels!

That's what I was thinking too...

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What's worrying me is that this Dell has a 16:9 aspect ratio not 16:10

Would that be a drawback?

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I've sent an email to Scan in Malta but no answer as yet...

€1015 is expensive, considering Dell retails it for $999 in the U.S.

 

[pantherx12]

Nothing wrong with 16:9 it's just a little wider than 16:10

 

[Black Panther]

Nothing wrong with 16:9 it's just a little wider than 16:10

I wasn't thinking it's wider actually I was thinking it's 'lower' since the 16 ratio is there but one has ratio 10 and the other ratio 9 so the picture would be smaller from top to bottom

whaaaaat

that is freaking insane

dont you have a site like newegg, scan, og overclockers in malta?

Scan replied to my email........

Dear Madam,

Good Morning!

Thank you for your enquiry.

I am pleased to quote the requested product as per below:



Dell 27" LCD Monitor - U2711 - EUR1250.00 incl VAT & ECO
Special Discount Price EUR1150.00 incl VAT & ECO

A 2-3 week lead time is to be allowed from order date.

that's even €100 more than the Simark shop's at €1050... :shadedshu

 

[(FIH) The Don]

you are not meant to get that monitor i see

 

[Black Panther]

you are not meant to get that monitor i see

I'll see about that, I might be getting the €1050 one........

Right now I've got another dilemma - I'm unsure whether to get a high definition monitor like the Dell Ultrasharp, or whether to get a 120Hz one for 3D...

(Uhhh, but somewhere I read that ATI cards don't support 3D or am I wrong?)

 

[(FIH) The Don]

seriously??? whats the page in malta....linky, then ill run it translated

 

[sneekypeet]

sorry, did we decide on a case and cooler yet?

Also I would lean on the X-58 and i7 proc for folding or crunching. P55 is about the same money, with a bit less "umph", and is soon to be phased out for the newer procs and chipsets.

 

[Black Panther]

seriously??? whats the page in malta....linky, then ill run it translated

The website's in english. However you won't see any U2711 there -- I had made this thread on a maltese tech forum (it's in English language too ) asking if anyone knew who supplied Dell monitors and this retailer Simark Supplies replied...

I emailed Scan and they quoted €100 more

sorry, did we decide on a case and cooler yet?

Well to be honest I was thinking to wait till 2011 for sandybridge..... since my games seem to run quite fine on the E8400 4Ghz for now...

 

[(FIH) The Don]

still a rather insane price no matter what

btw what the hell.....if i had the money i would do the same, just for the awesomness of it all

 

[Black Panther]

You think I won't regret not buying a 3D capable monitor?

 

[(FIH) The Don]

IF you go 3d, id get 2 480/470s, and 3x3d screens to make it worth it

 

[Black Panther]

IF you go 3d, id get 2 480/470s, and 3x3d screens to make it worth it

Changing from my 5970 is currently out of the question, I've barely started enjoying it and selling it used will mean lots of money lost and lol 3 x 3d screens plus sli 470 or 480's would set me off much more than a thousand euros.

So, the general trend is that 3D is not the way to go?

 

[(FIH) The Don]

lol it was more a joke

but im not sure how good your card is for 3d, as i havent tried it yet,

i think it will be good enough, its only the 3dglasses that requires a nvidia card

so yeah....thats up to you,

IF it was me, i would have gone eyefinity, but as you dont like those bezels then thats not an option

allthough you can get some monitors with extremely thin bezels these days

 

[Fourstaff]

I wonder if its cheaper for you to take a boat to France/Italy and buy yourself a screen. I would avoid the 3D thing for now, because the last time there was 3D back in the 1980's people develop cross eyes. Virtual boy, anyone? Should the 3D be damaging to your eyes, a 3 year study will be good, and just in time for your next upgrade

 

[Black Panther]

I wonder if its cheaper for you to take a boat to France/Italy and buy yourself a screen.

Now that you mention it could be cheaper to go to Sicily and buy from there, it's only 93 kilometers .

Only problem is that sicilian's reputation as sellers is a bit.....

 

[(FIH) The Don]

ah no need to worry, its just the Mafia....sissys

 

[Black Panther]

Before I do my purchase I have 2 questions

- my present LG lcd is 2ms grey to grey whereas the U2711 is 6ms grey to grey. Will it be inferior?

- the U2711 is 16:9 instead of 16:10 Is this a disadvantage? What about gaming compatibility?

 

[cadaveca]

u2711 is a fantastic monitor.

But, so, here's the thing.

Your present LG doesn't have a built-in scaler.

The Dell, with it's legacy analogue, component and composite, connections, does.

So, while it will have slower response, and with v-sync on, it will be really noticible, it will have a far better picture with content not in it's native resolution.

plus, 2560x1440 in 27-inch is an awesome dot pitch, and some great colours with that panel(103% of NTSC colour gamut, I think).

If I was to be buying a new large panel today, this panel would be one of the top 5, for sure.

 

[cheezburger]

Well, let's start on processor first - as pointed out I'd be using this processor both for crunching and for gaming (coupled with the 850W Corsair TX and the 5970). Should I already decide on a 6 core or wait perhaps something else might get released (or enjoy significant price drops) within 2 months time? I'd really appreciate if advantages/disadvantages of one 6 core over another were pointed out, (without getting into any intel/amd flamewars obviously!), after all there are several models available from both manufacturers.

I'd be passing on my present E8400 @ 4Ghz complete with mobo, cpu cooler and ram to my daughter. If she doesn't use it I'll just leave it crunching WCG.

So for the processor I'll also be needing a good cooler. I definitely plan to overclock (in my opinion not doing so is just abdicating from using potential power).

Anyway, let's just suggest processors for now, and a good air cooler.

For the rest we'll see later after I've decided on the processor.

few word short, have you decide to change the mobo? if not then just go for q9550/9650 and wait for sandy bridge or go for 1055T with some cheaper mono like some people mentioned earlier.

for cooling solution...since i'm not the expert of overclocking so i'd pass it.

 

[Black Panther]

few word short, have you decide to change the mobo? if not then just go for q9550/9650 and wait for sandy bridge or go for 1055T with some cheaper mono like some people mentioned earlier.

for cooling solution...since i'm not the expert of overclocking so i'd pass it.

I thought about it and since all my games run fine (Fallout 3, Resident Evil, Prototype, Dirt2, Dragon Age.....) on the E8400 @ 4Ghz, 4GB DDR2 and 5970 graphics I decided I will be upgrading monitor first if for nothing to do justice to the 5970

u2711 is a fantastic monitor.

But, so, here's the thing.

Your present LG doesn't have a built-in scaler.

The Dell, with it's legacy analogue, component and composite, connections, does.

So, while it will have slower response, and with v-sync on, it will be really noticible, it will have a far better picture with content not in it's native resolution.

plus, 2560x1440 in 27-inch is an awesome dot pitch, and some great colours with that panel(103% of NTSC colour gamut, I think).

If I was to be buying a new large panel today, this panel would be one of the top 5, for sure.

FPS games aren't my kind - I tend to go more for rpg (like Fallout3, Oblivion and soon Fallout New Vegas) and simulation/strategy (Anno 1404, Settlers...)

After reading some reviews of the U2711 the only thing which worried me was that an input lag was reported (note I don't mean a slow response time, input lag's got nothing to do with grey-to-grey ms time) and some even said the U2711 is more of a CAD / photoediting monitor than a gaming monitor

On the other hand I'm not one to go for fast paced first person shooters (unless FO3 is considered such), so perhaps I wouldn't notice this problem.

What I'm looking is something with a fine pixel pitch, I've become accustomed to 1920x1200 on a 17" and discovered that now I can barely bare to watch my 22" @ 1680x1050 and having good eyesight doesn't help...

Thing is that I don't want to spend €1000 on a monitor and then regret doing so, you know..

 

[cadaveca]

WEll, with my 3008WFP, people have also complained about input lag...doesn't bother me one bit. I acutally think they were being a bit tight-butted.

I don't think you'd regret it. They truly are a fantastic monitor, and when it comes to warranty, Dell trumps all others, at least in my own experience.

My 3008WFP has the scaler as well..I play BFBC2 @ 1920x1200, so the scaler is definately enabled...doesn't seem to affect me at all. Only when v-sync is enabled.

That dot-pitch is nothing to sneeze at, I agree.

I'll jsut put it this way...I was going to buy the 2708WFP, kinda regret going with the 30-inch...and to me the U2711 is better...after having both 3007WFP and 3008WFP, today I'd buy the U2711 instead.

With the info you have given, i think the monitor is near a perfect match for your needs.

FYI, Dell will ship you the monitor, and you can return it, on thier dollar, should you get it on your desk and not like it. At least, I can do that here..might not be possible in your region, I do not know.


When trying to solve my DP issues with my Dell P2310H's...Dell agent actually suggested that I purchase the monitors, and then return them if unhappy. He said that it was no problem, and that really, they wanted me to be happy with such an expensive purchase. And he was the supervisor...

So I suggest you check that part out...verify you could return the monitor if unhappy, and give it a go!

 

[Black Panther]

So I made an unexpected upgrade - this - it was in the plans though not as a priority, and the good price was hard to resist

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About the U2711 I've narrowed down the choices. From overseas it's out of the question, and Scan Malta is ruled out for quoting €1150.

So what remains is Simark @ €1050 with 2 years warranty, or Ultra Malta for €1095 with 3 years warranty.... Both of them don't stock the monitor (apparently no one does here!)

I thought Dell's warranty was standard though, what's with one retailer giving more warranty than the other, meh...

 

[(FIH) The Don]

thats a very nice disk

i have the 80gig version

you will be AMAZED how fast every thing starts up

im still kinda speechless over the monitor lol

 

[Fourstaff]

"all gone to Mr Panther there". I think you should change it to Mrs Panther

 

[cadaveca]

About the U2711 I've narrowed down the choices. From overseas it's out of the question, and Scan Malta is ruled out for quoting €1150.

So what remains is Simark @ €1050 with 2 years warranty, or Ultra Malta for €1095 with 3 years warranty.... Both of them don't stock the monitor (apparently no one does here!)

I thought Dell's warranty was standard though, what's with one retailer giving more warranty than the other, meh...

Yeah, that's a bit whacked...

Reliable Dell Warranty & Service: Get peace of mind with a 3-year limited hardware warranty and 3 years of Dell’s Advanced Exchange Service

, that's from the Dell Malta site, but it does say you must purchase from a local retailer.

Listing for the EU site is €938. Consider the extra price as markup.

A big part of my Dell favortism for monitors is thier awesome service, which it seem you do not have access to. That does make me hesitate...the monitor is good, but add in the service here, and it's phenomenal.

I paid an extra $350 CAD for my 3-year accidental damage coverage warranty. I have used this warranty once, they replaced 3007WFP with 3008WFP, and added another year of warranty with the same terms on the new monitor. There's alot more to that story, of course, but Dell did perfectly, by my standards.

Reseller info from Dell:

http://ireland.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/emea/contact/edb/malta?c=ed&l=en