Constants Crashes in almost all games

[Abdo AT]

Hello Guys,

I built a PC about two months ago with these Specs

• i7 14700K
• Gigabyte RTX 4070 Super Gaming OC
• MSI Z690 Tomahawk
• Two M.2 Gen 4 WB SN580
• 32 GB DDR5 Lexar Ares
• AORUS LIQUID COOLER 360

I know about Intel 14 Gen problem, but I had brand-new CPU that only runs in the latest BIOS updates with all microcodes and I undervolted it day 1
And I don't think it has degradation problem as I can run tests and install Nvidia drivers successfully

I played 5 games on it

1. Fortnite the One with most crashes, I uploaded crash report Here
2. Jedi Survivor had A lot of crashes also but not as Fortnite
3. God of war Ragnarök Has Few Crashes on loading screen but almost never while playing
4. Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition
5. Currently Playing Final Fantasy VII Remake, Wasn't crashing at all, till chapter 8, and it crashes a lot

All games I uploaded crash reports or event viewer Error Here

I tried a lot of searching and applying a lot of fixes but nothing work.
Thanks in advance

 

[Bill_Bright]

Only in games? What about other tasks?

What are your temps?

What if you reset the BIOS back to defaults and play your games?

If me, I would take everything out of the case and assemble the computer on a large, wooded cutting/bread board and see how it runs there. While everything is out, triple check to make sure you only have a standoff where there is a corresponding motherboard mounting hole.

 

[Laurijan]

try nvidia driver before the latest one. heard the new driver causes problems for some.

 

[Dragam1337]

Hello Guys,

I built a PC about two months ago with these Specs

• i7 14700K
• Gigabyte RTX 4070 Super Gaming OC
• MSI Z690 Tomahawk
• Two M.2 Gen 4 WB SN580
• 32 GB DDR5 Lexar Ares
• AORUS LIQUID COOLER 360

I know about Intel 14 Gen problem, but I had brand-new CPU that only runs in the latest BIOS updates with all microcodes and I undervolted it day 1
And I don't think it has degradation problem as I can run tests and install Nvidia drivers successfully

I played 5 games on it

1. Fortnite the One with most crashes, I uploaded crash report Here
2. Jedi Survivor had A lot of crashes also but not as Fortnite
3. God of war Ragnarök Has Few Crashes on loading screen but almost never while playing
4. Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition
5. Currently Playing Final Fantasy VII Remake, Wasn't crashing at all, till chapter 8, and it crashes a lot

All games I uploaded crash reports or event viewer Error Here

I tried a lot of searching and applying a lot of fixes but nothing work.
Thanks in advance

Have you tried removing the cpu undervolt and seeing if it still crashes ?

 

[Abdo AT]

Only in games? What about other tasks?

What are your temps?

What if you reset the BIOS back to defaults and play your games?

If me, I would take everything out of the case and assemble the computer on a large, wooded cutting/bread board and see how it runs there. While everything is out, triple check to make sure you only have a standoff where there is a corresponding motherboard mounting hole.

I Will Try This later as it will be difficult these days, thank you

try nvidia driver before the latest one. heard the new driver causes problems for some.

I tried many Nvidia Drivers and tried the stock one from Gigabytes, still not working

Have you tried removing the cpu undervolt and seeing if it still crashes ?

Yes, Unfortunately, games still crashing

 

[eidairaman1]

Did you buy that card used? What power supply?

 

[GerKNG]

32 GB DDR5 Lexar Ares

Which RAM exactly?

 

[bug]

It could be a number of factors. The easiest to take out of the equation is the RAM: try one stick at a time. If one stick works and the other one doesn't, you have a bad stick. Happened to me once, few RAM cell went bad, but they were in the "upper" region and I would only see the problem after RAM usage reached a certain level.

Next, remove the GPU. If it's stable when using the IGP, you have a GPU/PSU problem.

 

[claylomax]

Which PSU?
Is the RAM tuned?

 

[eidairaman1]

Hello Guys,

I built a PC about two months ago with these Specs

• i7 14700K
• Gigabyte RTX 4070 Super Gaming OC
• MSI Z690 Tomahawk
• Two M.2 Gen 4 WB SN580
• 32 GB DDR5 Lexar Ares
• AORUS LIQUID COOLER 360

I know about Intel 14 Gen problem, but I had brand-new CPU that only runs in the latest BIOS updates with all microcodes and I undervolted it day 1
And I don't think it has degradation problem as I can run tests and install Nvidia drivers successfully

I played 5 games on it

1. Fortnite the One with most crashes, I uploaded crash report Here
2. Jedi Survivor had A lot of crashes also but not as Fortnite
3. God of war Ragnarök Has Few Crashes on loading screen but almost never while playing
4. Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition
5. Currently Playing Final Fantasy VII Remake, Wasn't crashing at all, till chapter 8, and it crashes a lot

All games I uploaded crash reports or event viewer Error Here

I tried a lot of searching and applying a lot of fixes but nothing work.
Thanks in advance

Well was the gpu you bought used?

How are you powering that computer, a hamster wheel or what?

 

[Abdo AT]

Did you buy that card used? What power supply?

No, it's a new one

Which RAM exactly?

Lexar 32GB (2x16GB) ARES RGB DDR5 RAM 6400MT/s CL32 Desktop Memory - AMD Expo and Intel XMP 3.0, Black Model:LD5EU016G-R6400GDLA

Which PSU?
Is the RAM tuned?

XPG Core Reactor II VE 850W
No, it works with 5600MT/s, Both XMP or AMD EXPO turned off

Well was the gpu you bought used?

How are you powering that computer, a hamster wheel or what?

No, All pieces are brad new, XPG Core Reactor II VE 850W

It could be a number of factors. The easiest to take out of the equation is the RAM: try one stick at a time. If one stick works and the other one doesn't, you have a bad stick. Happened to me once, few RAM cell went bad, but they were in the "upper" region and I would only see the problem after RAM usage reached a certain level.

Next, remove the GPU. If it's stable when using the IGP, you have a GPU/PSU problem.

I will check this out, Unfortunately it only happens when playing games that the iGPU can't handle

 

[eidairaman1]

Set your ram to jedec and try it

 

[Dr. Dro]

No, it's a new one


Lexar 32GB (2x16GB) ARES RGB DDR5 RAM 6400MT/s CL32 Desktop Memory - AMD Expo and Intel XMP 3.0, Black Model:LD5EU016G-R6400GDLA


XPG Core Reactor II VE 850W
No, it works with 5600MT/s, Both XMP or AMD EXPO turned off

No, All pieces are brad new, XPG Core Reactor II VE 850W


I will check this out, Unfortunately it only happens when playing games that the iGPU can't handle

6400 is too much for the Z690 MAG Tomahawk to handle unless you dig in deep and manually tweak it, and even then you should be happy with 6000-6200. I have the upper range MEG Ace Z690 and 6400 was as far as I got with it, with pretty much the best QVL'd kit for it, and that is rated 6800. Unstable RAM can and generally will crash the GPU driver, so please test it at default 4800 MT/s and automatic voltages before you begin troubleshooting the GPU. If your crashes go away, that's your problem right there.

Unfortunately you'll have to climb the RAM speed slowly, if 5600 "works" as you say, then it's very likely this is it. Z690 motherboards are very unfriendly to high speed RAM (beyond 6200-6400) and only a very few select models actually manage Z790-like speeds, the refreshes have much improved memory layouts so if you want faster than 6000 guaranteed, you pretty much need Z790.

 

[stahlhart]

6400 is too much for the Z690 MAG Tomahawk to handle unless you dig in deep and manually tweak it, and even then you should be happy with 6000-6200.

This. I have 6400 stable on my Z690, but I think it's helped by (a) prior experience with Asus boards seemingly really liking G.Skill RAM kits, and (b) careful secondary / tertiary tuning with lots of stability testing. Recommend OCCT CPU+RAM, TestMem5 (1usmus_v3, Extreme1@anta777), Karhu MemTest. OCCT 's 3D Adaptive test will find GPU errors where it appears to be stable otherwise.

 

[Abdo AT]

Set your ram to jedec and try it

It's at jedec i never turned on XMP.

6400 is too much for the Z690 MAG Tomahawk to handle unless you dig in deep and manually tweak it, and even then you should be happy with 6000-6200. I have the upper range MEG Ace Z690 and 6400 was as far as I got with it, with pretty much the best QVL'd kit for it, and that is rated 6800. Unstable RAM can and generally will crash the GPU driver, so please test it at default 4800 MT/s and automatic voltages before you begin troubleshooting the GPU. If your crashes go away, that's your problem right there.

Unfortunately you'll have to climb the RAM speed slowly, if 5600 "works" as you say, then it's very likely this is it. Z690 motherboards are very unfriendly to high speed RAM (beyond 6200-6400) and only a very few select models actually manage Z790-like speeds, the refreshes have much improved memory layouts so if you want faster than 6000 guaranteed, you pretty much need Z790.

It currently at 5600, As I never used any XMP Profiles, So you mean even 5600 can cause these error I should lower it, So what is the purpose of using a DDR5 kits

 

[Dr. Dro]

It's at jedec i never turned on XMP.

It currently at 5600, As I never used any XMP Profiles, So you mean even 5600 can cause these error I should lower it, So what is the purpose of using a DDR5 kits

If the timing set or voltages are wrong, yes, 5600 can crash, too. By "JEDEC" it's meant to be DDR5-4800, failsafe is usually considered to be 4000. Test it with Either Passmark's Memtest86 or Memtest86+, then run OCCT

 

[eidairaman1]

It's at jedec i never turned on XMP.

It currently at 5600, As I never used any XMP Profiles, So you mean even 5600 can cause these error I should lower it, So what is the purpose of using a DDR5 kits

Try a xmp for it

 

[Abdo AT]

If the timing set or voltages are wrong, yes, 5600 can crash, too. By "JEDEC" it's meant to be DDR5-4800, failsafe is usually considered to be 4000. Test it with Either Passmark's Memtest86 or Memtest86+, then run OCCT

Ok I will check the test, Thank you

Try a xmp for it

I will give it a try