CPU undervolt, crashing games, tests run fine

[freeagent]

I have a few old coolers that go toe to toe with D15 and they are no match for 7nm let alone smaller. I would say get a better cooler.

Edit:

By better I mean modern.

 

[Springpaw]

I have a few old coolers that go toe to toe with D15 and they are no match for 7nm let alone smaller. I would say get a better cooler.

Edit:

By better I mean modern.

Wow really? A lot people speak very highly of the d15. What would you recommend in its place?

 

[freeagent]

Wow really? A lot people speak very highly of the d15. What would you recommend in its place?

It’s all regurgitated imo, there are quite a few coolers that can, heck even the little PA120 hangs with it

 

[Kapone33]

well that's the thing.
"Light multithreaded work" like modern games are pushing the highest possible boost clocks out of the chip and make it unstable.
as long as your ram is stable it's another dud like mine and many others.

You Bought a Gigabyte board on a brand new platform. You cannot blame AMD for the CPU not working when not running by default.

 

[Mussels]

I’m using a a noctua NH-D15 with two 2 front case fans, two top case and one rear exhaust in a meshify-C. I also worked in hardware repair for 3 years so I’m confident my thermal application is nice and tidy.

95c in a moderate task like gaming says somethings wrong, simple as that
If that was under an all-core AVX load maybe, but gaming? No, it shouldn't be that hot


And 3 years isn't long at all, and almost meaningless when these are an entirely new CPU design - your nice and tidy could be 1/4 the amount needed or 5 times the amount needed

 

[Springpaw]

95c in a moderate task like gaming says somethings wrong, simple as that
If that was under an all-core AVX load maybe, but gaming? No, it shouldn't be that hot


And 3 years isn't long at all, and almost meaningless when these are an entirely new CPU design - your nice and tidy could be 1/4 the amount needed or 5 times the amount needed

I see.

 

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[HD64G]

I can see that something is wrong with the cooler (the fan, the tightening of the screws or the thermal paste) and not the CPU or the UEFI. I would put the UEFI in the default settings for the CPU and re-install the cooler.

 

[Springpaw]

I can see that something is wrong with the cooler (the fan, the tightening of the screws or the thermal paste) and not the CPU or the UEFI. I would put the UEFI in the default settings for the CPU and re-install the cooler.

Cooler is good, I double checked it

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

That’s fair, I’m just determined to solve this issue. Only for that it’s an uncomfortably high temp to run the chip at and it being relatively new tech worries me on the it’s lifespan.


Hopefully not but the game instability is why I’m here. I’m just trying to isolate the issue exactly, I’m just not entirely sold if this is tied to the undervolt or if I’ve got another issue. It’s just very strange this is isolated only to games and specifically multithreaded games it seems.

Quit with your hold ups 85 isn't hot, have you never used a modern laptop, a GPU in the last ten years, shit my 5900X is locked at 85 with two 360 rads, loaded 24/7 stable 365 no crash EVER.

Man's Not hot.

He just thinks it is, plus as you were advised that's a set temp, you can choose lower though all of this is idiocy in my honest opinion because you bought a modern chip, they all work similarly.

 

[eidairaman1]

It’s all regurgitated imo, there are quite a few coolers that can, heck even the little PA120 hangs with it

ThermalRight ARO M14 series.

 

[DrCR]

ThermalRight ARO M14 series.

That essentially the Grand Macho adjusted for AM5?

 

[freeagent]

That essentially the Grand Macho adjusted for AM5?

Smaller, with 1 less heat pipe at 6x 6mm units

 

[phanbuey]

your issues are most likely caused by low load voltages -- see if you can bump the voltage at low loads. Every motherboard vendor has a different setting somewhere in the bios that controls this.

 

[eidairaman1]

Smaller, with 1 less heat pipe at 6x 6mm units

Handles the Ry7 5800 like a champ.

And it fits in a Zalman Z1 Neo Case

 

[Ferrum Master]

Dudes... such a bullshit thread and no one really asked for his real settings and per core grouping and how much he feeds into the cores real time also how by how much he has lifted the current limits.

I stopped reading after -30 PBO, that's utter nonsense and proves guy has no bloody idea how PBO works. Basically kills the boost frequency/voltage table algo.

You don't cripple voltage much from your best cores, if you do so they get voltage starved as they ramp very high on frequency, as windows orders them to do so and then you BSOD. Your crap cores deserve most undervolt as those are rarely picked for boost, but sometimes some of them are picky and you cannot starve them too much. You can shift PBO curvature adding CPU base voltage and then PBO will bend the voltage curve to find different desired settings.

Get a excel sheet and adjust each core step by step and run tests. There is no other magic way. It ain't 90ties overclock by togging FSB DIP switch, forget about it. You have to work hard, trial and error, don't blame AMD for your impatience.

 

[Springpaw]

Dudes... such a bullshit thread and no one really asked for his real settings and per core grouping and how much he feeds into the cores real time also how by how much he has lifted the current limits.

I stopped reading after -30 PBO, that's utter nonsense and proves guy has no bloody idea how PBO works. Basically kills the boost frequency/voltage table algo.

You don't cripple voltage much from your best cores, if you do so they get voltage starved as they ramp very high on frequency, as windows orders them to do so and then you BSOD. Your crap cores deserve most undervolt as those are rarely picked for boost, but sometimes some of them are picky and you cannot starve them too much. You can shift PBO curvature adding CPU base voltage and then PBO will bend the voltage curve to find different desired settings.

Get a excel sheet and adjust each core step by step and run tests. There is no other magic way. It ain't 90ties overclock by togging FSB DIP switch, forget about it. You have to work hard, trial and error, don't blame AMD for your impatience.

Hello, friend consider watching the video and also consider reading the part in my post where I say that I’m new to undervolting and also never claim be any sort of authority or veteran on the matter thank you and have a happier day!

 

[Ferrum Master]

Hello, friend consider watching the video and also consider reading the part in my post where I say that I’m new to undervolting and also never claim be any sort of authority or veteran on the matter thank you and have a happier day!

I was aiming my frustration to the other fellow veteran members that are carried away from the main point.

Just read.... refrain from using youtube videos. Dive into overlockers forums and mimic settings of experiments other have done on similar platforms and how PBO acts. Overclocking is more complex than ever, and there is no straight universal method for anyone. You start bit by bit. It takes weeks to find out your system preferences and how it behaves.

First thing you do is make a stable system at stock. Knowing how boards are RAM picky none work fine with default settings. Motherboard makers solve it by shoveling loads more voltage into CPU domains as is regarded as AUTO. That's AUTO for less RMA rates covering up shitty bios.

Use HWinfo64 at stock, look at voltages, while you do stuff, how CPU boosts at what voltages each domain hovers, the real current hogs often are hidden in AUTO settings. Make it stable and then you can scratch your head around CPU per core voltage tables. That's few weeks of work. Each BIOS/AGESA release will screw those tables up and you will have to redo your job.

 

[ir_cow]

AMD designed the turbo for 95c. Leave it be or use the eco mode which puts it to 90watts

 

[DrCR]

Smaller, with 1 less heat pipe at 6x 6mm units

Psh. Something for the peasantry then.

 

[freeagent]

Psh. Something for the peasantry then.

For old school Intel LGMRT is an awesome cooler..

 

[Mussels]

-30 PBO

This works on the x3D and nothing else, since they behave totally differently (and lose performance instead of stability, somehow)
Reset the BIOS to optimised defaults, turn on eco mode and see how it goes


If eco is overheating, you know somethings wrong with the cooler