Cpu won't use more than 15w, bypass oem limit?

[foo3]

Hi there, i'm on the hunt for some sweet benchmark scores, and I seem to have hit a wall, No matter how high I set the turbo power limits, my cpu will NOT use more than 15w, cooling is fine, it's a 2020 hp laptop, i5 1135g7, 16gb ram, 1tb ssd. I've tried throttlestop, and quickcpu, neither have any effect, seems hp has locked it down to 15w. Cooling won't be an issue as I have ways to remedy that later. Just wondering whether there is a way to bypass the oem limit?

 

[ir_cow]

That CPU is configurable up to 28 Watts. If HP locked it down, you are kind of stuck unless your into BIOS coding. I don't even know if that would be possible anyways. The CPU is hitting 88c at 15watts. It must be completely passively cooled. I would raise the limit even if you could unless you want 100c.

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[foo3]

That CPU is configurable up to 28 Watts. If HP locked it down, you are kind of stuck unless your into BIOS coding. I don't even know if that would be possible anyways. The CPU is hitting 88c at 15watts. It must be completely passively cooled. I would raise the limit even if you could unless you want 100c.

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Yeah, it’s up to 28w, I figured it might need bios editing, but the temps are fine, sub 70 under load as seen in the photo

 

[AsRock]

More cooling put a fan under it to lower the temps more as i see 88c

 

[foo3]

More cooling put a fan under it to lower the temps more as i see 88c

That’s 68c max 88 when the test was just starting

 

[unclewebb]

@foo3
Your screenshot shows the PL1 power limit is set to 19.0W and the CPU is throttling to 18.825W. That looks OK.

When you run Cinebench for a longer period of time, does the CPU Package Power drop down to 15.000W or slightly less?

The 1135G7 has a 28W power limit when in TDP-up mode but this is not the same as the long term TDP limit.

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Intel publishes TDP-up and TDP-down information but starting with 11th Gen, Intel decided to leave out the actual TDP value that is in the middle. Similar 10th Gen G7 CPUs had a 15W TDP rating. The 11th Gen is likely exactly the same.

Here is a similar Core i5-1035G7 with the 15W TDP limit clearly stated.

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HP is known to use an embedded controller (EC) to enforce this 15W long term limit. If that is the case, you cannot use ThrottleStop or any software to get beyond this built in long term limit.

When using ThrottleStop, did you try checking the MMIO Lock box? If the MSR power limits are set appropriately and the MMIO Lock box is checked and you are still power limit throttling at 15W then you are out of luck.

 

[foo3]

@foo3
Your screenshot shows the PL1 power limit is set to 19.0W and the CPU is throttling to 18.825W. That looks OK.

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When you run Cinebench for a longer period of time, does the CPU Package Power drop down to 15.000W or slightly less?

The 1135G7 has a 28W power limit when in TDP-up mode but this is not the same as the long term TDP limit.

Intel® Core™ i5-1135G7 Processor (8M Cache, up to 4.20 GHz) - Product Specifications | Intel

Intel® Core™ i5-1135G7 Processor (8M Cache, up to 4.20 GHz) quick reference with specifications, features, and technologies.

ark.intel.com

Intel publishes TDP-up and TDP-down information but starting with 11th Gen, Intel decided to leave out the actual TDP value that is in the middle. Similar 10th Gen G7 CPUs had a 15W TDP rating. The 11th Gen is likely exactly the same.

Here is a similar Core i5-1035G7 with the 15W TDP limit clearly stated.

Product Specifications

quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.

ark.intel.com

HP is known to use an embedded controller (EC) to enforce this 15W long term limit. If that is the case, you cannot use ThrottleStop or any software to get beyond this built in long term limit.

When using ThrottleStop, did you try checking the MMIO Lock box? If the MSR power limits are set appropriately and the MMIO Lock box is checked and you are still power limit throttling at 15W then you

Hey, I believe hp locks the ia cores to 15, I’ll check the mmio and report back, probably a no though

 

[unclewebb]

I believe hp locks the ia cores to 15

Most computers throttle based on the package power limit.

 

[foo3]

Ah ok