Crash after Trimming my SSD

[Jadax4444]

Every time I leave my PC idling for about 5 minutes, Windows starts trimming my SSD, which results in a blue screen of death with the code "WHEA UNCORRECTABLE ERROR". I tried to manually trim my SSD, but I had the same results. I ran chkdsk /f /r, but it didn't seem to help.
Is there a possibility that my PC can't successfully trim my SSD which causes the crash?

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Whea error is usually not enough core voltage so if you're overclocking or on manual voltages optimize defaults in bios and try again.

 

[pony66]

Have you turned off optimize ? I don't see how you know that windows is trimming every 5mins..
Try running SSD LIFE,, if it see's your ssd check the health of it. Do you have newer ahci driver and windows 20H2, ?.

 

[Jadax4444]

Have you turned off optimize ? I don't see how you know that windows is trimming every 5mins..
Try running SSD LIFE,, if it see's your ssd check the health of it. Do you have newer ahci driver and windows 20H2, ?.

I wanted to see if opening task manager would lead me to the source of the problem when it arose, and it did: after about 5 minutes of idling, service host: disk defragmenter started running and 100% of disk utilization was reached (this is when my computer crashed).
I am running the latest version of windows and all my drivers should be up to date.
I ran CrystalDiskInfo on my SSD a while back and got a weird result:

 

[Shou Miko]

I wanted to see if opening task manager would lead me to the source of the problem when it arose, and it did: after about 5 minutes of idling, service host: disk defragmenter started running and 100% of disk utilization was reached (this is when my computer crashed).
I am running the latest version of windows and all my drivers should be up to date.
I ran CrystalDiskInfo on my SSD a while back and got a weird result:
View attachment 186552

If it's still in warranty complain to Biostar and RMA the sucker.

 

[Jadax4444]

I think the warranty is expired by now... It's most probably a manufacturer problem right? I've had this issue as soon as I got my PC.
Well if there's nothing I can do about it, thank you all for the tips

 

[pony66]

Thanks J, figured as it's the only way to see but you didn't say an you never know what anyone does or thinks.

I agree with puma,,, you should turn off optimize an get a new ssd when possible, sata 3 drives are so cheap now you won't have to spend a bundle.

I looked at bio and don't see a firmware update so there's no help there.

 

[Shou Miko]

Thanks J, figured as it's the only way to see but you didn't say an you never know what anyone does or thinks.

I agree with puma,,, you should turn off optimize an get a new ssd when possible, sata 3 drives are so cheap now you won't have to spend a bundle.

I would still recommend a SATA3 SSD with DRAM cache they cost some more but are really good.
I personally only use Samsung EVO SATA drives and yes I buy a premium buy they never let me down.

 

[pony66]

Funny, all I ever buy is samsung, M2 raid boot an sata 3 storage.

I would still recommend a SATA3 SSD with DRAM cache they cost some more but are really good.
I personally only use Samsung EVO SATA drives and yes I buy a premium buy they never let me down.

Last reply above was for you. Love sam plus magician is a great tool.

I think the warranty is expired by now... It's most probably a manufacturer problem right? I've had this issue as soon as I got my PC.
Well if there's nothing I can do about it, thank you all for the tips

J, you could try ssd-z which is right here from tech power and just see if you get bad drive, if you want.

 

[Jadax4444]

Funny, all I ever buy is samsung, M2 raid boot an sata 3 storage.


Last reply above was for you. Love sam plus magician is a great tool.


J, you could try ssd-z which is right here from tech power and just see if you get bad drive, if you want.

I'll try it, thanks

 

[bug]

So this is not about trimming, but defragging. Rather strange, Windows is supposed to be smart enough not to defrag SSDs.
Maybe that's why the drive went bad?

 

[pony66]

So this is not about trimming, but defragging. Rather strange, Windows is supposed to be smart enough not to defrag SSDs.
Maybe that's why the drive went bad?

Are you basing your assumption on the op stating defrag was running looking inside TSKMGR, ?.

Pretty sure he meant the program was running because windows won't defrag an ssd or trim a hdd.

So long as the drive is recognized as a ssd.

 

[Mussels]

WHEA is often CPU voltage related for overclocking, but in this case if programs are reporting your SSD is "bad" from its SMART data - then yeah, thats a dying SSD sadly

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odiebug: wasnt SSD-Z discontinued years ago?

 

[bug]

Are you basing your assumption on the op stating defrag was running looking inside TSKMGR, ?.

Pretty sure he meant the program was running because windows won't defrag an ssd or trim a hdd.

So long as the drive is recognized as a ssd.

He says defrag was running and the disk usage was 100%. Maybe Biostar did something funky and the drives isn't recognized as a SSD?

 

[SL2]

Maybe Biostar did something funky and the drives isn't recognized as a SSD?

Let's say you're right. Is there a way to set that parameter manually, i.e force trim? (process, not functionality)

Or, what will the Defragmenter/Optimizer do if it's not recognizing it as an SSD? All speculating here, but I doubt Windows would enable TRIM if the it didn't recognize it as an SSD..

Is trim even enabled?

How to Run Trim Command for SSD in Windows 11/10

Methods for how to Run Trim Command for SSD in Windows 10 to check, enable, and disable this feature to improves the performance of Solid state drive.

www.howto-connect.com

Edit: I know it's a long shot.

 

[Caring1]

I wanted to see if opening task manager would lead me to the source of the problem when it arose, and it did: after about 5 minutes of idling, service host: disk defragmenter started running and 100% of disk utilization was reached (this is when my computer crashed).

Disable that service and the issue should stop.
As far as I am aware you can defragment an SSD but you shouldn't, it shortens their life.

 

[bug]

Let's say you're right. Is there a way to set that parameter manually, i.e force trim? (process, not functionality)

No idea, never had too look that up.

Or, what will the Defragmenter/Optimizer do if it's not recognizing it as an SSD? All speculating here, but I doubt Windows would enable TRIM if the it didn't recognize it as an SSD..

Is trim even enabled?

How to Run Trim Command for SSD in Windows 11/10

Methods for how to Run Trim Command for SSD in Windows 10 to check, enable, and disable this feature to improves the performance of Solid state drive.

www.howto-connect.com

Edit: I know it's a long shot.

It would unnecessarily defragment the SSD, eating into its durability.

 

[pony66]

He says defrag was running and the disk usage was 100%. Maybe Biostar did something funky and the drives isn't recognized as a SSD?

The tool is called defrag, so even when it runs trim it shows as defrag in tsk. Could be a drive not in the QVL, and uefi see's a hdd.
Even if it did run defrag, it only lessens because of write cycles, it looked like the drive was bad, but not because of dead cells due to life writes.
But a 70% full drive running defrag for a year isn't good, lol.

Let's say you're right. Is there a way to set that parameter manually, i.e force trim? (process, not functionality)

Or, what will the Defragmenter/Optimizer do if it's not recognizing it as an SSD? All speculating here, but I doubt Windows would enable TRIM if the it didn't recognize it as an SSD..

Is trim even enabled?

How to Run Trim Command for SSD in Windows 11/10

Methods for how to Run Trim Command for SSD in Windows 10 to check, enable, and disable this feature to improves the performance of Solid state drive.

www.howto-connect.com

Edit: I know it's a long shot.

Sorry to cut in, but most drives have trim written in firmware so even if win doesn't run trim, when the pc is off it runs GC.
CMD as admin ( fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify ) 0= trim is enabled and win see's ssd, 1- trim disabled.
SSD FRESH, has a run trim along with a few other programs.
I checked new biostar ssd an don't see anything about their GC, but they must have it, as for older, no clue.

WHEA is often CPU voltage related for overclocking, but in this case if programs are reporting your SSD is "bad" from its SMART data - then yeah, thats a dying SSD sadly

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odiebug: wasnt SSD-Z discontinued years ago?

Yep, my bad, might still work, still has DL's all over just not updated. I don't know if it will see his drive, all my ssd's use magician and years an years ago they all had a mfg tool before I went all samsung.

 

[SL2]

Sorry to cut in, but most drives have trim written in firmware so even if win doesn't run trim, when the pc is off it runs GC.
CMD as admin ( fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify ) 0= trim is enabled and win see's ssd, 1- trim disabled.
SSD FRESH, has a run trim along with a few other programs.
I checked new biostar ssd an don't see anything about their GC, but they must have it, as for older, no clue.

That's alright, but I was thinking about a bug rather than a lacking feature. We all know how it's supposed to work, and we also know that sometimes it doesn't work as expected.

I want to know if the OP's drive has trim enabled, checking some other drive doesn't really tell us much.