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I just got some Samsung DDR3 4GB RAM sticks; won't boot in an Intel machine, but will in an AMD PC;
I seem to recall something about high density being the issue.

Can someone explain what goes?
 

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What are the specs of both and the specific ram info?
 
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Son is on the computer at the moment, but did find this

32GB 4x8GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600MHZ 240P UDIMM Memory For AMD CPU High Density RAM | eBay

"This is High Density Memory ONLY Work On with AMD CPU Chipset Motherboard."
Theres your answer lol.

Reminds me of a certain kingston ddr set not working in a ecs mobo but traded them for another ddr set by kingston and it worked.

When you have the amd rig with those ram modules get a hwinfo 64, cpu-z memory tab screenshot.
 
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Sorry it took so long; the RAM that works in my Intel machine has
  • Ranks: Dual (this is different from Channel #: Dual)
and that RAM works on both Intel and AMD
 

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Do you have pictures of the RAM sticks? I'm assuming it's either voltage or the number of physical chips on the ram. That's about all I can make sense of..

If you don't mind swapping back and forth to be able to change some bios settings, it would probably be able to be tweaked to work. Are you able to access bios to try to mod the settings?
 
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Unfortunately swapping is not an option my son would not permit it; I was lucky enough just to get to run CPU-Z
 

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I just mean a quick swap to be able to enter bios to try new settings. Understandable eitherway tho
 
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My BIOS does not have such options and even if this solved the issue it would mean a low CMOS battery would not allow me to boot.

Anyhow, as I recall, I don't even get as far as the BIOS.
 
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Unfortunately swapping is not an option my son would permit, I was lucky enough to get to run CPU-Z
I remember SS ram from RIMM days and it was prevailent in ddr2 days

My BIOS does not have such options and even if this solved the issue it would mean a low CMOS battery would not allow me to boot.
You would get a warning about a battery needing to be changed or the unit being factory reset on its own/date/clock being way off
 
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My BIOS does not have such options and even if this solved the issue it would mean a low CMOS battery would not allow me to boot.
I searched the part number and it brought up a amazon listing selling those sticks in the picture. In the reviews someone listed it was for their i3 so it def is working on intel. Did you try swapping the slots? Like trying 2nd and 4th slot going from left to right?

I remember SS ram from RIMM days and it was prevailent in ddr2 days


You would get a warning about a battery needing to be changed or the unit being factory reset on its own/date/clock being way off
Plus they are just watch batteries you can grab at the dollar store. I believe mine is a 2032 which is really common. Unsure about previous years tho.
 
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Yes, I tried swapping, booting off one, etc; maybe the i3 can handle high density RAM, I am using a Core 2

The single rank sticks have 8 chips on just one side, the dual rank sticks have 8 chips on each side; I am fortunate that I can still use the high-density RAM, as I have the AMD PC.
 
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I searched the part number and it brought up a amazon listing selling those sticks in the picture. In the reviews someone listed it was for their i3 so it def is working on intel. Did you try swapping the slots? Like trying 2nd and 4th slot going from left to right?


Plus they are just watch batteries you can grab at the dollar store. I believe mine is a 2032 which is really common. Unsure about previous years tho.
Yes the batteries are still CR2032, no you can't use CR2025.
 
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Yes, I tried swapping, booting off one, etc; maybe the i3 can handle high density RAM, I am using a Core 2

The single rank sticks have 8 chips on just one side, the dual rank sticks have 8 chips on each side; I am fortunate that I can still use the high-density RAM, as I have the AMD PC.
Yeah definitely. Must be processor power than. Maybe that was the beginning of AMD power taking over the CPU market
 
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From what I can recall, this (high density ddr3 issue) applied to 1st gen core, but it works from 2nd gen (sandy bridge) onwards. I'm not sure if 2nd gen boards need a bios update, or if it works out of the box.

AMD usually support newer memory earlier than Intel, for example: Ryzen supports 16Gbit DDR4, but Intel only supports it from 9th gen onwards (officially anyhow).
 
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Most DDR3/4 should been in AMD and Intel platforms but there can be specific cases where the memory provider have skipped out on compatibility on support like with ram on wish, ebay and etc. from china seen that before.

This haven't had "density" written on the sells I have seen.
 
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