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Dell G15 5510 Core i5-10500H Throttlestop not having a major effect in cpu temperature

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System Name Dell G15 5510
Processor Intel Core i5 10500H
Memory 16 GB RAM Dual channel DDR4 3200 (1600 Mhz) Crucial (2x8)
Video Card(s) Nvidia Geforce GTX 1650 DDR6 4GB 128 - bits
Storage PC SN530 NVMe WDC 256GB KINGSTON SNVS1000G
Display(s) WVA FHD 1920 x 1080 120 Hz 250 nits
Power Supply 180 W Dell Power supply
Software Windows 10 Home 21H2
Benchmark Scores Cinebench Multi core version 23.200 score: 8130
9-month old laptop with some thermal issues regarding CPU , i have undervolted the CPU for better temps but i am worried because my offset values are way too high and i see little improvement with temps overall, whenever i am playing a game CPU T° hovers around 80-90° C and i use a little box to keep the laptop elevated for better airflow but my major concerns is my offset values and the fact that i have read some comments about the core 15 10500H and most people have very low values for the cpu core and cache (~ 100-150 mV) , am i overdoing it by having a core offset of -275 mV and cache of -120 mV?, i haven't tinkered with any of the PL1 and PL2 values , just the FIVR and SpeedShift Values , at this point i haven't experienced any BSOD , i have only tested this by playing for 30-40 minutes and a couple of runs with cinebench , do i have to perform a more demanding stress test? change thermal paste despite the laptop been only 9 months old? changing other settings with TPL ?, i wouldn't like to sacrifice too much performance by limiting the cpu power too much
 

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i have the same cpu and same laptop
core voltage offset is not working above core cache voltage
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Core voltage offset(-275mV)
Core cache offset(-120mV)
it's core offset (-120mV) because it use the same core cache offset (-120mV) and above that it isn't
 
core voltage offset is not working above core cache voltage
Have you done any Cinebench testing to compare using the same voltages vs using different voltages? On the 8th and 9th Gen CPUs, using different voltages improved performance or temperatures. It would be interesting to see some similar testing with a 10th Gen mobile CPU. Here are three screenshots of some 8750H testing a user sent me.


am i overdoing it by having a core offset of -275 mV and cache of -120 mV
Do some Cinebench testing. If you do not see an improvement then set the core and cache equally.
 
Have you done any Cinebench testing to compare using the same voltages vs using different voltages? On the 8th and 9th Gen CPUs, using different voltages improved performance or temperatures. It would be interesting to see some similar testing with a 10th Gen mobile CPU. Here are three screenshots of some 8750H testing a user sent me.



Do some Cinebench testing. If you do not see an improvement then set the core and cache equally.
hi, , i tried a cinebench run earlier in the morning with both core and cache with an offset of -135 mV and i got BSOD , for a different cinebench run i tried an offset of -140 mV for core and -132 mV for cache and here is the log file from throttlestop , i am still hitting temperatures over 90° C , i don't know if i should continue lowering the voltage for cpu core , i cannot change the thermal paste just yet because the laptop is a couple of months old and still under warranty , i don't know what else to try
 

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core and cache with an offset of -135 mV
Setting the cache to -135 mV is usually too much. There is no point trying to run the CPU on the very edge of stability. If the sun comes out from behind the clouds, your computer might randomly crash. You should never see a BSOD. This almost always means that you have lowered the voltage too much.

Many modern laptops have barely adequate cooling. They either thermal throttle or they power limit throttle. It is just the way it is. The thermal paste probably needs to be replaced. Some pastes might only last six months or less before they pump out or start to degrade.

To test using different voltages, run some baseline Cinebench tests with both the core and the cache at -125 mV. Now leave the cache at -125 mV and set the core to -175 mV. Is there any improvement in temperatures or performance? If you do not see an improvement then leave the core and the cache set to the same values.
 
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