Dell Will Have Custom DDR5 Memory Module for its Upcoming Laptops

[Valantar]

What are you even talking about? I never mentioned anything about being plugged in. And being plugged in has noting to do with it.

I've tried thin and light machines - anything from ultra low power 15W i7's to the 14" 8 core Asus ROG Zephirus - compared to a workstation or gaming laptop performance is a noticeably reduced. Even in the case of "performance" (notice the quotes) oriented t&l machines, there is simply not enough thermal headroom and power circuitry to enable any serious computing*.

I'll give an example - take the HP x360 - at 15W ryzen 3750h will perform significantly worse then the same CPU but with a higher power limit - 65W like in the Asus TUF gaming. You can add as much ram to that as you want, it's still a dumpster fire.

*And by serious computing I'm talking rendering, compiling and so on - tasks that would benefit from having large amounts of ram. I've seen this kind of talk back in the 2000's - MORE RAM IZ MOAR POWR!!!! - marketing BS designed to make people pay for stuff they don't need. For every day computing 8GB is more then enough. In fact, the PC I use to study and write research papers on is an ancient i7 950 with only 6GB of ram, and it's excellent. Not even having dozens of tabs in edge open at the same time while doing image optimization and OCR in Acrobat DC will slow it down. I've been thinking of upgrading this PC as it's been in use since my collage days, but it's been running so well for the tasks it's expected to do that I feel no need to do so, and it has all the software I'm used to on it, as well as all my research papers and materials from studies and whatnot, so instead of throwing more ram at it or swapping it out for a newer gen machine I simply installed a PCI-E USB 3.1 card and upgraded the CPU cooler.

I brought this PC up because it has about the same performance level as a modern quad core thin and light laptop running a modern i5 or ryzen 5 "U" skew CPU - and 6Gb is not a hindrance. It it were I would have dug into my box 'o' ram and installed an additional 6 GB.

Also I formulated my reply as a serious valid QUESTION - what do you need that much ram for? I'm still waiting for an answer. I gave you a practical example of using 6Gb in 2022 for Acrobat DC, image recognition, OCR, photoshop, document digitalization and on line research (witch often involves having over 50 open browser tabs or multiple browser instances running at the same time) with no slowdowns or other issues.

You really don't need that much stuff open to run up against 16GB these days. On my work laptop, which has a moderate amount of employer-mandated software (remote support software, software update stuff, management stuff, etc.), I'm typically sitting in the ~12GB range in active use and have seen it approach 16GB at times. And that's with a job that entails a bunch of browser tabs (Firefox, though at times a handful in Chrome or Edge if I need something separate), various text documents, typically a handful of PDFs, Outlook, and a few other relatively low load applications running. The few times I have to fire up Photoshop - or, god forbid, a video editor (Premiere Rush has been my go-to lately), those 16GB start running out quickly. For my work, keeping all of that stuff available is a necessity, so even with browsers and PDF readers continuing where I left off, I can't go around closing windows left and right. I still don't need more than 16GB, but I have zero trouble envisioning someone running even slightly more demanding software than me benefiting from more RAM in a thin-and-light.

 

[Chrispy_]

What are you even talking about? I never mentioned anything about being plugged in. And being plugged in has noting to do with it.

I've tried thin and light machines - anything from ultra low power 15W i7's to the 14" 8 core Asus ROG Zephirus - compared to a workstation or gaming laptop performance is a noticeably reduced. Even in the case of "performance" (notice the quotes) oriented t&l machines, there is simply not enough thermal headroom and power circuitry to enable any serious computing*.

I'll give an example - take the HP x360 - at 15W ryzen 3750h will perform significantly worse then the same CPU but with a higher power limit - 65W like in the Asus TUF gaming. You can add as much ram to that as you want, it's still a dumpster fire.

*And by serious computing I'm talking rendering, compiling and so on - tasks that would benefit from having large amounts of ram. I've seen this kind of talk back in the 2000's - MORE RAM IZ MOAR POWR!!!! - marketing BS designed to make people pay for stuff they don't need. For every day computing 8GB is more then enough. In fact, the PC I use to study and write research papers on is an ancient i7 950 with only 6GB of ram, and it's excellent. Not even having dozens of tabs in edge open at the same time while doing image optimization and OCR in Acrobat DC will slow it down. I've been thinking of upgrading this PC as it's been in use since my collage days, but it's been running so well for the tasks it's expected to do that I feel no need to do so, and it has all the software I'm used to on it, as well as all my research papers and materials from studies and whatnot, so instead of throwing more ram at it or swapping it out for a newer gen machine I simply installed a PCI-E USB 3.1 card and upgraded the CPU cooler.

I brought this PC up because it has about the same performance level as a modern quad core thin and light laptop running a modern i5 or ryzen 5 "U" skew CPU - and 6Gb is not a hindrance. It it were I would have dug into my box 'o' ram and installed an additional 6 GB.

Also I formulated my reply as a serious valid QUESTION - what do you need that much ram for? I'm still waiting for an answer. I gave you a practical example of using 6Gb in 2022 for Acrobat DC, image recognition, OCR, photoshop, document digitalization and on line research (witch often involves having over 50 open browser tabs or multiple browser instances running at the same time) with no slowdowns or other issues.

LOL did you seriously just go on a huge rant because you think that people who only have a laptop shouldn't do serious CAD/media/protoyping/database work, and MUST get a desktop instead!? We all know you can run Microsoft word on an old PC with 6GB of RAM just fine. That's not what this discussion is about at all though...

I don't think I need to dignify that with a serious response, but if you don't need more than 16GB of RAM, good for you - you're now exempt from the rest of this discussion because the topic in question doesn't apply to you.