Did Nvidia purposely gimp the performance of 50xx series cards with drivers

[AusWolf]

It was there before TikTok though. TikTok gen isn't voting as we speak.

TikTok brain doesn't only affect one generation, unfortunately.

You don't see because I didn't say that or maybe you like to put words in my mouth?


You completely lost the point.

When you have no budget for upgrade you have option 1 and 2, one overrides the other and users, are at a loss, running high power and load + high temps to correct the shimmering.

Whatever they gained trough the newest driver in terms of less power is now nullified.
Is clear enough now?

Now you really lost me.

1. High power and high load brings you more performance.
2. Drivers don't affect power consumption - your TDP/TBP is coded into your VBIOS.
3. How any of this affects any kind of "shimmering" is beyond me.

 

[Shihab]

So we can agree to disagree.

This is not an opinion on which kind of cheese are better or which side of the bed you sleep on. This a factual statement that is either true or false. Does a vendor introduce bugs and performance/quality degradation targeting older hardware with newer drivers, or not.

Your evidence to this claim is an isolated case. Either isolated to you as a user, or to the application(s) you -and others- are using. These do happen for a plethora of reasons. But are not a large scale issue. As evidently, the few thousands who still use Pascal (or immediately preceding/succeeding generations) are not complaining about it en mass. And there are thousands of games and other applications that perform (controlled for other changes) nearly-similarly or better compared to when the hardware-in-question was released.

In fact, counter to your claim, users on other operating systems would generally benefit from subsequent driver releases with pre-RTX hardware. My 1080 runs faster and is more stable at the same temps and power draw with the linux R550 driver than it did, say, 470. Some regressions occur. But I would not fault Nvidia's drivers because recent ones bug out on Gnome Remote Sessions (a known bug) and claim they are purposefully ruining my experience. I would happily bash them for their generally awful Wayland support, which does partially explain the former. But that's a different issue.

When Nvidia or AMD or Intel decide to deprecate a generation, they have a clear, more-or-less transparent and standard way of doing that: relegate them to legacy status. Which Pascal is soon to reach. Absolutely no need for conspiracies. Especially not ones that could backfire badly, as seen in the (actually not-so-clear-and-cut) case of Apple's batterygate.

A quick search, ppl talked about Negative LOD Bias in relation to shimmering since 2004.

Yes. People were also talking about FXAA's effect on texture quality since its inception. Both are irrelevant to the above case. Unless you're implying Nvidia was degrading Pascals 13 years before they were released.

 

[tugrul_LordOfDrinks]

Nvidia gimped players. Now they buy anything. Look at my build specs, I am the gimp now.

 

[rusty caterpillar]

Now you really lost me.

1. High power and high load brings you more performance.
2. Drivers don't affect power consumption - your TDP/TBP is coded into your VBIOS.
3. How any of this affects any kind of "shimmering" is beyond me.

1. High power and load means heat, you can't apply those heavy settings in Prebuilt systems with poor cooling or in laptops.
In War Thunder for example you push to +100% Clipmap Scale and Background Scale you'll see a + 20-25 C (on VRAM and GPU core temps) on a well cooled1080 TI in a well cooled case. Think about same settings were cooling is poor!!!
Unfortunately is the only solution to get rid of the shimmering (fences, edges of vehicles, radiators on vehicles etc) ,without those setting, your eyes will get tired very easy.
It is FXAA and Negative LOD but, why is not present on 3060 card?? In general on 3000 series you'll see very few people complain about shimmering.

Another title producing shimmering GTA 5, but that was like 4-5 years ago.

Just a glimpse on GTA V issues, but bare in mind in WT is much worse