Do you use Linux?

[TheinsanegamerN]

You could do the same, especially since there are now two people saying they think that info is not right.

I haven't had any problems with Mint, at all. I'm running the second to latest version, Mint 21. I've only been lazy not updating to 22. To be fair the last time I ran Steam on Linux was with Mint 20, so it's been a hot minute, but I had no issues. Everything in my game library that was listed as playable in the SteamDeck compatibility list ran fine on my install of Mint.

So what problem are we talking about with the MESA drivers? Granted, I was using an NVidia card so the MESA drivers weren't a factor I don't think. Found the following discussion over in the Steam forums from Dec of last year;

Linux Mint Mesa Updates :: Steam for Linux General Discussions

Hey. When do the Mesa drivers update on Linux Mint? I'm on Linux Mint 21.2 Kernel 5.15.0-89, Ubuntu 22.04.1 and Mesa 23.0.4. Searching the Mesa website the latest is 23.3.0. So is it as Linux Mint updates it's Kernel, sooner or later it'll reach 23.3.0 for Mesa driver updates? I've read you can...

steamcommunity.com

The general consensus seems to be that the latest versions of Mint and thus MESA are fine for Steam gaming on Linux Mint.

I've already explained it several times. Halo Infinite was one case where the game plain wouldn't work, factorio experienced crashes, ece.

I also stated several times that this is an AMD/Intel issue, since Nvidias proprietary drivers do not rely on MESA and kernel updates to function. I ALSO stated that the newest version of Ubuntu issues witching to newer kernel and MESA releases moving forward so this issue may be resolved in the future. I did update both my kernel and MESA on mint, but they proved to be unstable, which was not the case on manjaro.

The real issue, it turns out, is that people DO NOT READ THE COMMENTS, they just react.

I've not seen any evidence of that. Mint runs perfectly on 12th, 13th and 14gen Intel and all gens of Ryzen using IGPs. No issues. It's just never been a problem, and many who know me well enough to know I would call it out if there was problems.

"I don't have problems therefore they don't exist" is IMO a poisonous attitude. These issues do exist, you can go to forums for different distros and read the complaints, or forums for proton. If it doesn't happen for you, I'm glad, enjoy your software! But let's not downplay others who have found these problems and found solutions.

Really? I find modern touchpads on Linux to be almost on par with macbooks, and way better than what's available on Windows. Libinput has really managed to achieve awesome results.
And I do say that as someone who has both a MBP and full-time linux devices.

It should be enabled by default with libinput.

It depends on the device. Most are good, if they are mainstream devices with known hardware. Smaller vendors can use oddball supplies that are not well supported.

Same thing can happen to wifi. Had that happen to me on my thinn 15 that used a wonky usb-nvme converter that meant that wireless did NOT work on Linux, unless it felt like it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Oh dear, attitude. Really?

The real issue, it turns out, is that people DO NOT READ THE COMMENTS, they just react.

Irony much? Seriously look in a mirror and wedge that foot out of your mouth.

"I don't have problems therefore they don't exist" is IMO a poisonous attitude.

I didn't say that, nor imply it. The implication is that MOST users are not having problems. Not all, MOST. Context is important.

This is an excellent perspective. I'm actually installing and booing up the newest 17.2 Core version as I type this. Have read that they've made really good progress with the newest version and wanted to try it.

So far it has an excellent dark mode. I like that FireFox is still the default installed browser.

As an update to this, ZorinOS seems to be very nice! I think I still like Mint better, but Zorin has impressed me. Solid 2nd spot in my fav Linux disro list!

 

[AusWolf]

Anybody tried SteamOS on desktop? I tried to get it, but the download link points towards a Steam Deck recovery image.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Anybody tried SteamOS on desktop? I tried to get it, but the download link points towards a Steam Deck recovery image.

The one that does work is really old and it isn't going to be updated, at least according to Valve..
(BTW, funny new avatar)

 

[jak_2456]

Anybody tried SteamOS on desktop? I tried to get it, but the download link points towards a Steam Deck recovery image.

There is HoloISO which is probably the closest thing. You can also install another distro and set up Big Picture Mode so that it starts on login.

 

[lexluthermiester]

There is HoloISO which is probably the closest thing. You can also install another distro and set up Big Picture Mode so that it starts on login.

Sadly, that is also dead and hasn't had any updates for a while.

GitHub - holoiso-eol/holoiso: SteamOS 3 (Holo) archiso configuration

SteamOS 3 (Holo) archiso configuration. Contribute to holoiso-eol/holoiso development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

The original SteamOS-like Linux distro HoloISO now dead, replaced with immutable version

After a while of no updates to the actual ISO download of HoloISO, the creator of this SteamOS-like Linux distribution has announced the original is now dead. As it's being replaced by the newer immutable HoloISO.

www.gamingonlinux.com

There is this..

GitHub - HoloISO/releases: To whom shall install

To whom shall install. Contribute to HoloISO/releases development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

There are no actual releases for it though..

 

[AusWolf]

The one that does work is really old and it isn't going to be updated, at least according to Valve..

Oh, that's a shame. Would have been a nice living room PC project.

(BTW, funny new avatar)

Thanks. It was time to choose one after so many years, right?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Oh, that's a shame. Would have been a nice living room PC project.

Mentioned in another thread that Bazzite(https://bazzite.gg/) is the current best option for Steam gaming on Linux. That's just what I have found and tested, but it seems very good. Worthy of a look if nothing else. If you've got a spare system and a recent Radeon GPU, give it a try.

 

[johnspack]

I sure hope everyone knows you don't have to install Steam to have proton under linux.
Install wine, then: https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases/tag/v2.4.1
Then: https://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton/releases/tag/v2.13
If anyone needs any tips please msg me.

 

[Kraust]

I sure hope everyone knows you don't have to install Steam to have proton under linux.
Install wine, then: https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases/tag/v2.4.1
Then: https://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton/releases/tag/v2.13
If anyone needs any tips please msg me.

The best option IMO Is to Do lutris or steam + protonup-qt. Allows you to easily manage installed Proton versions between Lutris and Steam.

 

[Space Lynx]

Not only is Mint best imo, but they are a non-profit organization, not a for profit company. I know several distro's are non-profit, but not all of them are... and some have shady habits to make money imo. I just think people should remember if a distro is going to be good, it needs to be a non-profit, that's kind of the whole point of Linux, open source and community improved.

When SteamOS comes to desktop, as much as I love it, I may still stick with Mint Cinnamon, it just works for everything I need it to do with no issues.

 

[Chomiq]

Anybody tried SteamOS on desktop? I tried to get it, but the download link points towards a Steam Deck recovery image.

There is Bazzite:

Is Bazzite Good Enough?

 

[Ferrum Master]

The best option IMO Is to Do lutris or steam + protonup-qt. Allows you to easily manage installed Proton versions between Lutris and Steam.

Or Heroic. Depending if you flatpak it or not, you can have gamescope also, if you really need it, and basically... there is no meaningful difference.

There is absolutely no need to indulge in gaming specific OS. NTsync will be in 6.13 as last desired feature, patching needed afterwards, doing your custom kernel, but it requires patched wine also... so a hassle again.

I fail to see any worth in changing CPU schedulers from default, no matter what youtuber tells you, he has a different PC and CPU arch in most cases.

 

[JLP]

It is only GNU/Linux these days (openSUSE Tumbleweed with KDE Plasma desktop mostly). Ever since getting Steam Deck more than a year ago I saw that even for gaming GNU/Linux is enough. In fact in many cases even Windows games run faster on GNU/Linux, not to mention how much better the properly done native games run. So I deleted the last partition with Windows soon after getting Steam Deck.

 

[lexluthermiester]

There is Bazzite:

Is Bazzite Good Enough?

ETAPrime just did a video on it as well.

The New Radeon 890M Takes iGPU Linux Gaming to the NEXT LEVEL!

Looks very promising. Maybe the folks at Valve will link up with the Bazzite folks as a SteamOS on PC thing! Could be very cool!

 

[AUTOEXEC.BAT]

I have ZorinOS 17 PRO for free

Maybe I'll build a system with that OS. For now, im not using it.

 

[theFOoL]

I have ZorinOS 17 PRO for free

And how's that

 

[AUTOEXEC.BAT]

And how's that

Got it from someone

 

[lexluthermiester]

I have ZorinOS 17 PRO for free

Maybe I'll build a system with that OS. For now, im not using it.

Got it from someone

That's very cool! It's a few versions old, but that version never had any serious vulnerabilities, and nothing that could not be solved with IPTables firewalling.

 

[AUTOEXEC.BAT]

That's very cool! It's a few versions old, but that version never had any serious vulnerabilities, and nothing that could not be solved with IPTables firewalling.

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After some updates it's the newest.... They are at 17.2 now.

 

[lexluthermiester]

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After some updates it's the newest.... They are at 17.2 now.

Oh it did fully update! I wasn't so sure the Pro version would do that, being a paid version and whatnot. Haven't really looked into it that deep.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Just found this a few minutes ago;

Commodore OS Vision

About Commodore OS

www.commodoreos.net

It's an official Commodore Linux distro. Giving it a go..

 

[Ferrum Master]

Just found this a few minutes ago;

Commodore OS Vision

About Commodore OS

www.commodoreos.net

It's an official Commodore Linux distro. Giving it a go..

You have too much time lol

 

[GerKNG]

I used it for 20 years occasionally, sometimes even as my main OS.
it was my main OS again from 2021 to 2023 and then back to windows. Now i am back using Linux only on all devices with no plans to go back.

 

[lexluthermiester]

You have too much time lol

Maybe. I did retire from a career earlier this year..

On that note, CommodoreOS is actually very cool. I'm not going to switch to it from Mint because the software manager is not what I like compared to Mint's. But for Commodore users, it should be a very excellent experience!