Does your computer support PCI-Express 5.0 SSDs?

[wEeViLz]

Hi,
Not really only new hardware is compatible
Same hardware companies laying off people because of poor sells mostly because of stupid high prices.

Yeah, but TPU is an hardware enthusiast site, I thought we were a little more enthusiastic that that? ; )

 

[AusWolf]

Yeah, but TPU is an hardware enthusiast site, I thought we were a little more enthusiastic that that? ; )

You can be enthusiastic about older hardware, too. Being a car enthusiast doesn't mean swapping to the newest model every year.

 

[Assimilator]

Yeah, but TPU is an hardware enthusiast site, I thought we were a little more enthusiastic that that? ; )

"Enthusiastic" doesn't mean "stupid". And right now PCIe 5.0 is stupid, because there are zero commercial products that use it (SSDs or GPUs). Then there's the fact that getting PCIe 5.0 support in your PC is expensive, in terms of motherboards (and even more so if you're going with AM5).

But even if PCIe 5.0 motherboards and devices were cheap and plentiful, in and of themselves they would bring few tangible benefits. The advantage of SSDs has always been their random access speeds, which is a property of the NAND flash, and was and still is available on the slowest SATA models. Moving to NVMe has allowed faster peak read and write speeds, but those are irrelevant to the vast majority of users the vast majority of the time.

So really, PCIe 5.0 in consumer devices is, right now, a solution in search of a problem. PCIe 4.0 has proven that it is pretty much good enough for 99% of consumer needs, and while I'm sure use-cases for the higher bandwidth of PCIe 5.0 will become apparent, right now they just aren't there - so neither is the reason to upgrade. It doesn't help either that we're in the middle of a recession.

 

[ThrashZone]

Yeah, but TPU is an hardware enthusiast site, I thought we were a little more enthusiastic than that? ; )

Hi,
Sometimes enthusiasm is just a cure for boredom/ hobby and sometimes after too many lake one just finally figures out other hobbies last longer and are more enjoyable than throwing money at billion dollar companies that the items depreciate way to much.

Building your own computer is better than buying from dell/... but still I have three desktops now so I'm full so feel free to upgrade

 

[Tomgang]

Nope, neither my SSD or motherboard support PCIe gen. PCIe gen and Samsung 980 PRO is plenty fast for my needs.

Gen 5 SSD will first happen when i eventually upgrade from Zen 3 and that aint going to happen the next 2-3 years at least.

 

[Kaleid]

Yup, and I might buy a 5.0 drive, but not at 12 GB / s speeds and probably not if it has a fan.
In the end we really need better 4k reads, a lot of this is just marketing at this point

 

[7thWave271]

Still 3.0 (X299 & 10980 XE).

 

[Braegnok]

My motherboard supports PCIe 5.0 SSDs.

I'm fine with current Gen 4.0 x 4 speed, cooling requirements.

Seems the new 5.0 SSDs will require active cooling, or custom water block.

 

[dont whant to set it"']

*Yes, my cruncher does support pcie 5.0devices.

 

[wEeViLz]

You can be enthusiastic about older hardware, too. Being a car enthusiast doesn't mean swapping to the newest model every year.

I see your board supports pci-express-5-0-ssds! ; )

"Enthusiastic" doesn't mean "stupid". And right now PCIe 5.0 is stupid, because there are zero commercial products that use it (SSDs or GPUs). Then there's the fact that getting PCIe 5.0 support in your PC is expensive, in terms of motherboards (and even more so if you're going with AM5).

But even if PCIe 5.0 motherboards and devices were cheap and plentiful, in and of themselves they would bring few tangible benefits. The advantage of SSDs has always been their random access speeds, which is a property of the NAND flash, and was and still is available on the slowest SATA models. Moving to NVMe has allowed faster peak read and write speeds, but those are irrelevant to the vast majority of users the vast majority of the time.

So really, PCIe 5.0 in consumer devices is, right now, a solution in search of a problem. PCIe 4.0 has proven that it is pretty much good enough for 99% of consumer needs, and while I'm sure use-cases for the higher bandwidth of PCIe 5.0 will become apparent, right now they just aren't there - so neither is the reason to upgrade. It doesn't help either that we're in the middle of a recession.

My comment was more meant in jest, hence the winky face. ---> ; )

 

[AusWolf]

I see your board supports pci-express-5-0-ssds! ; )

No, it doesn't. It's a B650 but MSi decided to go with all 4.0 slots on it.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Funny I missed the is your rig ready for PCIe 4.0 thread
Still no

Still 3.0 (X299 & 10980 XE).

Yeah z490 same what's up with that, right intel not amd

 

[Flanker]

No, and I use a SATA SSD

 

[Bagerklestyne]

Yeah, but TPU is an hardware enthusiast site, I thought we were a little more enthusiastic that that? ; )

I'm enthusiastic about more money in my wallet.

I am however upgrade to AM5 and going pcie5 on both SSD and GPU slots not because I need it but because I sit on an X370 board so I feel I'll be staying with my choice of board for sometime so having the option down the track (mostly for the GPU) is nice.

I'm more interested in 10 gig ethernet than pcie5, but that seems to be an uber luxury (or a modestly priced add in card)

 

[Dirt Chip]

I wonder about the percentage of vote confusion between PCIE5 for SSD (NVMe) with PCIE5 for GPU.
Take this percentage, multiply by 10 and you have the general public confusion on the subject.
Most of the mobo`s that have any PCIE5 do it only for the GPU.

As to the matter, I have only PCIE4 SSD support and I sleep just fine.

 

[Pumper]

Don't care about 4.0, let alone 5.0.

Even got myself a used 1TB 840 EVO to replace my last HDD for storage, instead of getting some cheap nvme for the same money.

 

[AMF]

well leave it up to tech companies to give u some thing u cant use effectively yet and charge 2x the price im so sick of the waste of silicon

 

[Deleted member 211755]

B450 Tomahawk here, still on 3.0. System drive is Kingston A4000. Above 2 GB/s read and write. Still more than enough for me.
Flashed to latest BIOS the other day.
I don't know if my MBO supports 4.0.
Sure it doesn't support 5.0 though, but matters little at the time,
but, as always, times change and so will our boards.
Sooner or later.

 

[Guwapo77]

At this time, there is nothing I do that even sniffs PCIe 5.0 speeds/bandwidth. Unreal 5.x might be able to in the future, but I highly doubt it. Once there is an application or game that needs that type of power is when I'll jump on board (no pun intended).

 

[Paganstomp]

Still running AGP and ISA with Windows XP Home.

 

[AsRock]

Still running AGP and ISA with Windows XP Home.


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Sweet not seen a slot 1 for some time.

 

[Morgoth]

actualy the consumer grade ssd's dont even take fullbandwith of gen 4 pci-e...
need higher speeds than a single nvme socket can give? get a pci-e 8x or 16x adapter card that can use all lanes and bandwith...

 

[Assimilator]

Sweet not seen a slot 1 for some time.

My first real PC (after a hand-me-down i286 with 1.92MB, no not a typo, yes that's megabytes of memory) was a Pentium III Slot 1 system. That was back when you could overclock a Celeron from 300 to 800MHz simply by playing with the jumpers on the board. Sadly my P3 was only a Katmai not a Coppermine, but I still pushed that chip from 450MHz to 600MHz without touching anything except those jumpers. Never had any instability from it either, and that thing served well for literally years until I blew my long-saved paper route wages on an Athlon XP 2000+ system.

(Not-so-)Fun fact, the S3 integrated graphics on the AXP system were barely an upgrade over the discrete SiS 6326 4MB (again, not a typo) AGP card that came with the much older P3 system.

actualy the consumer grade ssd's dont even take fullbandwith of gen 4 pci-e...
need higher speeds than a single nvme socket can give? get a pci-e 8x or 16x adapter card that can use all lanes and bandwith...

There's no NVMe SSD designed to use more than 4 lanes of PCIe...

 

[Morgoth]

My first real PC (after a hand-me-down i286 with 1.92MB, no not a typo, yes that's megabytes of memory) was a Pentium III Slot 1 system. That was back when you could overclock a Celeron from 300 to 800MHz simply by playing with the jumpers on the board. Sadly my P3 was only a Katmai not a Coppermine, but I still pushed that chip from 450MHz to 600MHz without touching anything except those jumpers. Never had any instability from it either, and that thing served well for literally years until I blew my long-saved paper route wages on an Athlon XP 2000+ system.

(Not-so-)Fun fact, the S3 integrated graphics on the AXP system were barely an upgrade over the discrete SiS 6326 4MB (again, not a typo) AGP card that came with the much older P3 system.

There's no NVMe SSD designed to use more than 4 lanes of PCIe...

there are also none NVME ssds that use the pci-e soket
and there are nvme adapters card that each has its own lanes

 

[wEeViLz]

Still running AGP and ISA with Windows XP Home.


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