Dont build a pc until April

[cst1992]

Scalpers are an all-pervasive phenomenon, they're not just in the PC-building industry.
When the earthquake hit Nepal a few years ago, I remember reading in the news about people selling packaged water bottles for INR 500 - whereas on the open market a packaged water bottle sells for INR 20.
It was because of the shortage.
Same thing happening here. The only solution is to wait it out.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Not a problem for me. I bought my 1660 Super months ago, before the shit hit the fan

I have one of those from Zotac. The only problem I see with it, when testing it with Unigine Superposition 1080p high, is power throttling a bit at factory GPU boost clock.
Looks like I only got extra room for the VRAM. The more I brought up the VRAM in MSI Afterburner, the better the Unigine Superposition 1080p high benchmark results were.

 

[Cranky5150]

Don't rebuild or buy until what you have can't run your games or programs to your satisfaction is the best bet.....

 

[dirtyferret]

Are you lost?

This isn't a Dell or HP forum

Today I was going to make a new account on an investor site full of experienced investors who do nothing all day but argue over every little minutiae of financial investing and post a thread titled "Don't buy high and sell low!"

Cyberpunk is dead and so is cdpr.

What a delusional world you live in.

What can you say @rtwjunkie , a company worth almost $400 million that just sold over 13million copies of its newest game (even after refunds) ain't what she used to be

 

[cst1992]

Today I was going to make a new account on an investor site full of experienced investors who do nothing all day but argue over every little minutiae of financial investing and post a thread titled "Don't buy high and sell low!"

What site?

 

[dirtyferret]

What site?

Maybe bogleheads, you have a better site?

 

[milewski1015]

What site?

Whoooooosh

 

[nuggdoctor]

Today I was going to make a new account on an investor site full of experienced investors who do nothing all day but argue over every little minutiae of financial investing and post a thread titled "Don't buy high and sell low!"




What can you say @rtwjunkie , a company worth almost $400 million that just sold over 13million copies of its newest game (even after refunds) ain't what she used to be

when a company loses one third of its value and is being sued by its own shareholders, is considered being successful? the companies net worth isnt their money. or their real value. Its what their SHAREHOLDERS have invested that makes a company have value and when those people sue you, it tends to turn a companies lights out. And at one point a few years ago they were almost pushed into bankruptcy when they scrapped a game after a lot of r&d money went out. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cd-projekt-loses-third-value-124013090.html

 

[rtwjunkie]

when a company loses one third of its value and is being sued by its own shareholders, is considered being successful? the companies net worth isnt their money. or their real value. Its what their SHAREHOLDERS have invested that makes a company have value and when those people sue you, it tends to turn a companies lights out. And at one point a few years ago they were almost pushed into bankruptcy when they scrapped a game after a lot of r&d money went out. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/cd-projekt-loses-third-value-124013090.html

You have a serious case of Chicken-Littleism. You're really not very tuned in. Oh, you can spew some facts alright, but really are just jumping on the ant-hype train at this point. The company, is not done, not finished. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

Since you like figures, why don't you tell us all what branch of CD Projekt funds the company in its day to day functions, including (most of) its multi-year developments? Once you can answer that you'll understand why they are not done and cease this "CDPR is finished" nonsense.

 

[dirtyferret]

Whoooooosh

maybe he will look

 

[nuggdoctor]

You have a serious case of Chicken-Littleism. You're really not very tuned in. Oh, you can spew some facts alright, but really are just jumping on the ant-hype train at this point. The company, is not done, not finished. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

Since you like figures, why don't you tell us all what branch of CD Projekt funds the company in its day to day functions, including (most of) its multi-year developments? Once you can answer that you'll understand why they are not done and cease this "CDPR is finished" nonsense.

lmao. you think because the government of poland did an experiment and funded 38 videogame projects around the country and cdpr managed to get some of those funds 4 -going on 5 years ago that thats going to bail them out? give me a break. Not saying i like the idea either. thats just facts. and facts dont care about our feelings. And look on the brightside. When they go on the chopping block, im betting microsoft buys them, just like they did bethesda.

the shareholders OWN 66.44% of the company. so if theyre suing the 4 main owners who is going to keep the company running on the day to day, let alone the forseeable future? "Who are the CD Projekt RED owners?
Iwiński owns 12.79 percent of the company, while Kiciński has a 9.94 percent share of the company. Two other individuals have large shares — Piotr Nielubowicz with 6.81 percent and Adam Kiciński with 4.02 percent. The remaining 66.44 percent of the company is in free float.
On Dec. 9, CD Projekt RED launched its new game, the futuristic Cyberpunk 2077. The game, which had amassed 8 million pre-orders, disappointed many users. They complained about bugs interfering with the game's function." https://marketrealist.com/p/who-owns-cd-projekt-red/

theyre in a similar boat to ubisoft. In the way if they have a botched launch or another failure theyre done. Ubisoft BARELY managed to fight off a hostile takeover by Vivendi entertainment. Origins and rb6 siege saved their asses. https://kotaku.com/vivendis-attempt...over,acquire any more for the next five years.

 

[rtwjunkie]

lmao. you think because the government of poland did an experiment and funded 38 videogame projects around the country and cdpr managed to get some of those funds 4 -going on 5 years ago that thats going to bail them out? give me a break. Not saying i like the idea either. thats just facts. and facts dont care about our feelings. And look on the brightside. When they go on the chopping block, im betting microsoft buys them, just like they did bethesda.

the shareholders OWN 66.44% of the company. so if theyre suing the 4 main owners who is going to keep the company running on the day to day, let alone the forseeable future? "Who are the CD Projekt RED owners?
Iwiński owns 12.79 percent of the company, while Kiciński has a 9.94 percent share of the company. Two other individuals have large shares — Piotr Nielubowicz with 6.81 percent and Adam Kiciński with 4.02 percent. The remaining 66.44 percent of the company is in free float.
On Dec. 9, CD Projekt RED launched its new game, the futuristic Cyberpunk 2077. The game, which had amassed 8 million pre-orders, disappointed many users. They complained about bugs interfering with the game's function." https://marketrealist.com/p/who-owns-cd-projekt-red/

theyre in a similar boat to ubisoft. In the way if they have a botched launch or another failure theyre done. Ubisoft BARELY managed to fight off a hostile takeover by Vivendi entertainment. Origins and rb6 siege saved their asses. https://kotaku.com/vivendis-attempt-at-a-hostile-takeover-of-ubisoft-is-ov-1823930613#:~:text=Ubisoft appears to have avoided the hostile takeover,acquire any more for the next five years.

Well, you failed to answer the question correctly despite the wall of text. You have no clue what branch of the company funds CD Projekt, of which btw, CDPR is only one branch.

Welcome to TPU and my ignore list, which is where blowhard know-it-alls that don’t know anything go. You did it in record time.

 

[erocker]

By april AMD cpu's will be available and so will most of nvidia and amd gpu's. right now to build with new parts you have to pay scalper prices. And by april production will resume to normal capacities and so will shipping, so a lot more of the item people need to build with with be available for much much cheaper.

I'm not so sure on this. Maybe Nvidia has the best chance, but with AMD having to supply Microsoft, Sony and themselves I can't see their stock improving much. I'm thinking it's going to be a long year.... again. I really hope you're right though!

 

[nuggdoctor]

I'm not so sure on this. Maybe Nvidia has the best chance, but with AMD having to supply Microsoft, Sony and themselves I can't see their stock improving much. I'm thinking it's going to be a long year.... again. I really hope you're right though!

If they did everything in house the way intel does ild be inclined to agree with you. BUT AMD outsources a HUGE amount of their production to not just other companies but other countries and they will easily be able to fill their production holes very soon. if they havent already. They started outsourcing in 2003 but signed their contracts to do it starting in 2001. https://www.zdnet.com/article/amd-to-outsource-manufacturing/

Thats also why there are some trying to convince intel to do the same. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...el-to-outsource-cpu-manufacturing/?comments=1

 

[Jetster]

I just built two

 

[nuggdoctor]

Well, you failed to answer the question correctly despite the wall of text. You have no clue what branch of the company funds CD Projekt, of which btw, CDPR is only one branch.

Welcome to TPU and my ignore list, which is where blowhard know-it-alls that don’t know anything go. You did it in record time.

lmao. If they have private money funding that isnt listed here ild like to see it. https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/investors/financial-summary-report/

Every reason they list in this article as to why cdpr wont sell to microsoft is now moot since cyberbug epicly failed. and the shareholders want the profits they should have mad ehad the game not been a disaster. https://www.tweaktown.com/news/69416/cd-projekt-red-reason-sell-microsoft/index.html

 

[95Viper]

Thread has turned into a general discussion of this and that... some of which is off topic.
Get it back to the topic; and, within the bounds of System Builders Advice.

Thank You and have a good one.

 

[nuggdoctor]

looks like all gpu's and cpu's that come out of china are going to be more expensive now that the trade deal stuff from 2018 is going to start kicking in. i was reading that gpu prices are set to go up a minimum of 80$ because of the trade deal.

 

[dirtyferret]

the shareholders OWN 66.44% of the company. so if theyre suing the 4 main owners who is going to keep the company running on the day to day, let alone the forseeable future? "Who are the CD Projekt

Shareholders own 100% of a public company (66.44 of which may be outstanding) and you can't sue the four majority shareholders personally for wrongful conduct since it is a corporation (one of the benefits of being incorporated), you can only sue the company. Also companies have a thing called liability insurance to cover lawsuits...

 

[Tom Sunday]

INTEL BUZZ: Looks like it's best to hold-on to my "upgrade money" until later this year and to check-out by November Intel's next 12th-generation desktop introduction. With "Alder Lake" Intel plans to make historic changes with its 12th generation line of much improved and more powerful processors supported and mandated onto a brand new LGA 1700 socket. Motherboard manufactures are delighted as well to be double-dipping in their sales offerings and all within a one years time. Coming soon and tauted also is DDR5 and PCIE 5.0 later this year. How can I resist having to own the latest and the greatest and more lanes to drive and to go faster? It appears that the Alder Lake CPU has a rectangular shape (many more pins and thus power) with exact dimensions of 37.5mmx 45.0mm, whereas all the existing Intel gen CPU's are square-shaped with a perfect square of 37.5mm x 37.5mm. Upgrading right now with the already outgoing and ready to be discontinued Intel 10th generation or next weeks officially announced very shortlived 11th generation (Z590) appears to be a mistake. Simply one would be outdated in 7-months time if buying Rocket Lake. It's not very often that Intel is proffering two generations of CPU's all within a few months of each other. And then gracefully allowing us all of these fine and many choices. I guess AMD has put on the heat? Whereby I only have my wallet to hold on too for now.

 

[ThrashZone]

looks like all gpu's and cpu's that come out of china are going to be more expensive now that the trade deal stuff from 2018 is going to start kicking in. i was reading that gpu prices are set to go up a minimum of 80$ because of the trade deal.

Hi,
Not much comes out of China anymore and if it does it doesn't take long before it gets subbed to another Country for finish boxing and shipping out.

 

[Waldorf]

So ppl that sold/dont have a rig anymore, should not have one until then? lol
i have build 2 rigs in the past 3 month (just finished the last one 2 weeks ago),
and didnt pay anything more than msrp/i did before, some stuff was even cheaper (ram/nvme).

just because "10" items are overpriced, doesnt mean everything is,
nor does it mean i cant find deals using a web search, as there are other places than BB or walmart...

@RJARRRPCGP
yeah, sounds great.
lets spend more than half a grand on the cpu, and then cheap out on the board, to save "50$".
this in a micro case without exhaust fan, and a 1000w no name psu for 25$, are the perfect match for that combo...
(sarcasm mode: off).

 

[purecain]

The trouble we have atm is Covid and weather our governments are ever going to stop accepting 300billion lump sums of debt, for putting us in yet another lockdown. The world Bank is the influencer here.

So knowing this situation might continue for another 12 months at least, made me panic buy and ive managed to get a 5950x and sell my 3900x at an affordable £350 which is a bargain for the buyer. Went to a good home aswell so I'm happy. I'm still waiting for my EVGA RTX3090, although lucky for me delivery is set for tomorrow.
When that happens someone will pickup a Titan V cheap.
If anyone is building a pc right now, just research each item and check all of the forums and selling sites untill you get your hardware together, but do not pay scalping prices. I take a lot of pleasure from enabling a build that would otherwise of been unaffordable for that person. The OP is right and it isntr the best time to buy a pc but we are in unprecedented times. The last time our governments tried forcing the unscientific germ theory on us with the whole mask situation the people instantly rebelled. Similar to what has actually happened in the UK only the media wasnt bought out completely and the people got wind of what was happening and the government caved immediatly. This time we are in serious trouble. Order followers are allowing the UK to be turned into one big GULAG/Re education centre!!!! We had just proved that you dont catch a cold or the flu. That once a year our body's naturally flush, this is known as the FLU...sssshhh!

 

[Waldorf]

@purecain
yeah, millions on the planet are dead because of made up pandemic.

not one would argue about wearing a mask/not being close to others if this was ebola.
but im partially happy about that, as its a way for nature to take out the not so smart ppl.
just bad for ppl that do protect themselves but get infected by the morons on this earth..

 

[jboydgolfer]

the morons on this earth

you rang?