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[EOL] Arctic MX-5 is here!!Tests incoming! Completed. Now its MX-6 testing time!

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Hopefully it’s more than half a c :D
 
Hopefully it’s more than half a c :D

Well guy on notebook forum tested 1 vs 1 gelid vs syy, had like 4-6c on syy benefit. Seems as Gelid is very good but not as good for laptops. SYY's viscosity people suggest makes it a better choice for laptops. I hope I will be able to snag some better temps with it versus gelid....

Also, I think last repaste didn't gone too well at the LAB, my own pasting with Gelid weeks before I gave the LAB a try, done better, at least on GPU side.
So when I will repaste SYY, will do my best to do it as right as possible, and also will heat the paste tube before applying in hot water.

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Hopefully it’s more than half a c :D

@freeagent one more question if I may, between the new (more runny) and old (less runny) SYY Formula, besides the ease of apply, the new one, doesn't become less of a good for laptops due to being more runny? or after hours/days it ends up being same shape and viscosity as the old one and stick well in place?

Thanks!
 
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In brief: It was exciting when this paste came out and I had it ordered practically day 1, that type of excitement gets rarer and rarer the older we get, and I still cherish that giddiness. I know a lot of you don't, perhaps never did, paste is paste. That thrill of the latest tech, of getting the most out of your system, tweaking, testing, experimenting, we have all been there, we have enjoyed it, we have hated it, but most of all I think we all recognize that it is part of a deeper experience of the human condition. It's the same thing the original explorers of the ocean felt in their wooden ships, its the same thing with the James Webb Space Telescope launching tomorrow, this constant pursuit of pursuing and pushing the limits of optimal efficacy to allow a deeper awareness of our existence to unfold...

It doesn't really matter if I prefer my MX-4, or another paste, that's not what the 'feeling' this thread was created out of, and above all, that is the overall message I hope people understand. Pursue that feeling, my greatest fear is the day, everything becomes a routine, and the only passion I have left is the next meal...

Merry Christmas to those of you who kept this thread alive and contributed to it. It now has 96k views and 36 pages long... most threads I make are in the range of 500-2000 range in views... so these numbers are just mind blowing to me, especially since its something I never personally followed up on, if a topic was to get this many views, and I had to place a bet on which of my topics would get that... it would have been my Arctic Laptop Modification project, cause well it was a hell of a lot of fun for me personally... lol (though I have a deep hatred for laptop manufactures not just adding extra weight to laptops that are high end gaming ones, they aren't meant to be portable if they have a high end gpu imo, they are meant to be desktop replacements and plugged in on the go/easier mobility than a full desktop). A lot of us have that use case for them but the market doesn't seem to care, and instead prefers overheating, so frankensteining the hell out of it was a lot of fun for me, someday my ultimate project is going to be to create a mini ITX setup in a small briefcase, with a 23.8" 1080p high refresh screen as the monitor, so that all you have to do is sit the brief case down, and the lid opens up to the screen, and a custom keyboard folds down, a hole pre-routed for the mouse, etc. but anyone seeing me carrying it will think its just a traditional businessman briefcase, lol

Anyways, no other thread even comes within a fraction of this ones view count that I have made, so tangent aside, thank you all! I'd bet money someone at Arctic has seen this thread btw, lol

this thread is dead now, no need to resurrect it, just wanted to share it below:
 
In brief: It was exciting when this paste came out and I had it ordered practically day 1, that type of excitement gets rarer and rarer the older we get, and I still cherish that giddiness. I know a lot of you don't, perhaps never did, paste is paste. That thrill of the latest tech, of getting the most out of your system, tweaking, testing, experimenting, we have all been there, we have enjoyed it, we have hated it, but most of all I think we all recognize that it is part of a deeper experience of the human condition. It's the same thing the original explorers of the ocean felt in their wooden ships, its the same thing with the James Webb Space Telescope launching tomorrow, this constant pursuit of pursuing and pushing the limits of optimal efficacy to allow a deeper awareness of our existence to unfold...

It doesn't really matter if I prefer my MX-4, or another paste, that's not what the 'feeling' this thread was created out of, and above all, that is the overall message I hope people understand. Pursue that feeling, my greatest fear is the day, everything becomes a routine, and the only passion I have left is the next meal...

Merry Christmas to those of you who kept this thread alive and contributed to it. It now has 96k views and 36 pages long... most threads I make are in the range of 500-2000 range in views... so these numbers are just mind blowing to me, especially since its something I never personally followed up on, if a topic was to get this many views, and I had to place a bet on which of my topics would get that... it would have been my Arctic Laptop Modification project, cause well it was a hell of a lot of fun for me personally... lol (though I have a deep hatred for laptop manufactures not just adding extra weight to laptops that are high end gaming ones, they aren't meant to be portable if they have a high end gpu imo, they are meant to be desktop replacements and plugged in on the go/easier mobility than a full desktop). A lot of us have that use case for them but the market doesn't seem to care, and instead prefers overheating, so frankensteining the hell out of it was a lot of fun for me, someday my ultimate project is going to be to create a mini ITX setup in a small briefcase, with a 23.8" 1080p high refresh screen as the monitor, so that all you have to do is sit the brief case down, and the lid opens up to the screen, and a custom keyboard folds down, a hole pre-routed for the mouse, etc. but anyone seeing me carrying it will think its just a traditional businessman briefcase, lol

Anyways, no other thread even comes within a fraction of this ones view count that I have made, so tangent aside, thank you all! I'd bet money someone at Arctic has seen this thread btw, lol

this thread is dead now, no need to resurrect it, just wanted to share it below:

Merry Christmas to everyone, but pls keep this topic for comparisons with MX-5.... to talk about Gelid or SYY there are specific posts
 
--> Thanks for the long response....

TimeSpy + Custom MPT + GT500 Max Speed + AMD Control Panel custom voltage and min/max core speeds:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/69946070

Washers + Repaste (For gpu larger die I used SYY Iceberg fuzeice Plus for CPU):
Before repasting and washers CPU was going 95-97c even with GT500 Max speed.

Now CPU peaking around 91-91.5c with GT500 and going to its usual 95-96c max without GT500. Which is normal, multiple G513QY units reported on discord having same temps at load, but the IMPORTANT change, that before repasting, with EVEN with GT500 cpu was still kicking 95-97c lol and now its not (timespy/firestrike). In things that push the CPU to the max like CB23, still seeing 95C (as I understand other units with LM does see 95c as well) but now my scores higher, so surely less throttle after repasting+washers mod :)

When I opened the cooling chamber, Gelid GC Extreme was kinda vaporized, wattery drops on die....so probably not a great fit OR i had a bad Gelid defected......or something... took photos:

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...24/924662401922662410/IMG_20211225_195530.jpg

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...24/924662433874870272/IMG_20211225_195515.jpg

*** white thing is K5 pro , pretty nice how it kept its form and shape, as "thermal pads". You should NOT use K5 pro if you need more than 1mm though.

Especially on chamber side, you can see it, I touched the Gelid, it really felt like vaporized water.....

Now with SYY and Iceberg Plus, I feel more confident :)
In future when time comes to repaste again, I can determine which one of the two saved better its form and shape, and use the better one to repaste both dies.

For VRM and VRAM, since this laptop has around 0.5-1.0mm K5 pro is a good fit for me, and since I already had K5 pro on vram and vrm, all I did is recollect K5 Pro and re-apply again + use some extra K5 pro to fill up a bit, as when you recollect you still lose some. P.S. K5 PRO lab officially told me, that K5 pro can be recollected and re-applied.

Timespy BEFORE repasting + GT500 Max + Ryzen Balanced Profile:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/69908254

TimeSpy BEFORE repasting + GT500 Max + ASUS Power Profile:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/69908465

CB23 BEFORE repasting + GT500 Max + ASUS Power Profile:

Photos during repasting work (k5 pro collected and re-applied plus bit of extra new k5 pro drops on it, for vrm and vram):
https://media.discordapp.net/attach...81/924590225060134952/IMG_20211225_220004.png

After repasting:
TimeSpy + Custom MPT + GT500 Max Speed + AMD Control Panel custom voltage and min/max core speeds:
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/69946070

As mentioned in CPU intense like BF2042 I am hitting peaks at 95c but its not sticking there it goes below it for CPU and CB23 sticks to 95c, but thats normal for R9 5900HX laptops in this model. The big issue that before this repaste work, even if I dropped CPU STP to 60's watt zone, even then it would go and stick to 95c in load, and with GT500 max speed, it won't bother go below 95c lol now it does in gaming/3dmark go below 95c.

Generally in games, even in COD Vanguard, CPU does hit 95-96c and floating around 94-96c zone. With GT500 at max speed, CPU below 90c at most cases, while before repasting, even with GT500 would go right away to 95-97c and stay in this range..... Am I seeing my GPU hotspot going 98-99c in 3dmark or games as it did before repasting and washers mod? no, it doesnt occur anymore :) it can go around 94-95c gpu hotspot zone but not 98-99c as before.
 
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When I opened the cooling chamber, Gelid GC Extreme was kinda vaporized, wattery drops on die....so probably not a great fit OR i had a bad Gelid defected......or something... took photos:

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...24/924662401922662410/IMG_20211225_195530.jpg

https://media.discordapp.net/attach...24/924662433874870272/IMG_20211225_195515.jpg
From those photos, it seems clear that the base of the heatplate was making contact with the GPU, but not the CPU. You need to find the reason for the block not resting flush on the die. Something is likely blocking it. Likely all the gunk all over the board.
 

If going the pad route for CPU/GPU, which one you would suggest:




For ASUS G513QY Laptop with Ryzen 9 5900HX / RX6800M GPU, I suspect the chamber is not flat even on CPU's side as paste performance degrades faster on CPU than on GPU, and Pad could be the answer to uneven chamber surface if I understand it right.


Your feedback is welcomed,

Thanks!
 
Guys this is MX5 thread, not Gelid or SYY... you can use this

And therein lies the dilemma, or so it seems to me; how can one discuss MX-5 without discussing competitors?

Even a thermal paste thread invites a comparison to thermal pads; perhaps a 'Thermal Interface Material' thread would cover it all.
 
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And therein lies the dilemma, or so it seems to me; how can one discuss MX-5 without discussing competitors?

Even a thermal paste thread invites a comparison to thermal pads; perhaps a 'Thermal Interface Material' thread would cover it all.

well, in the last replies the discussion was focused on Gelid and SYY, without mentioning MX5 at all... so in this case better to share experiences in the related post, that's all
 
I didn't mean to say it is wrong, but staying strictly on topic can sometimes have disadvantages, as can going way off topic.
 
Arctic for the mx-5 created some faulty batches
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PBEG0fKxOs

read the comments below video.
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mx-5 created some faulty batches
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PBEG0fKxOs

read the comments below video.
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holy **** nice find lol

that is wild you stumbled across official Arctic comments in youtube, I didn't even know they did that...
 
thanks guys, I was using MX5 on both CPU and GPU... problems in terms of temperatures and stability. Thanks again
Get in touch with Arctic Cooling and get a replacement! Try not to be to hard on them, mistakes happen, no company is perfect. However, they're making right with the public and that speaks volumes.
 
Get in touch with Arctic Cooling and get a replacement! Try not to be to hard on them, mistakes happen, no company is perfect. However, they're making right with the public and that speaks volumes.

In these days I had troubles tuning up my PC, with random crashes. So after the MX5 surprise, I decided to replace the thermal paste... here how I found the situation:

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Obviously disappointed, but as someone said, it can happen... should not, with big producers, but it can happen... Here in China, we are during the Spring festival holidays, but the seller replied to me that I can return it, receiving a full refund, then I will see if buy it again.
 
In these days I had troubles tuning up my PC, with random crashes. So after the MX5 surprise, I decided to replace the thermal paste... here how I found the situation:

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Obviously disappointed, but as someone said, it can happen... should not, with big producers, but it can happen... Here in China, we are during the Spring festival holidays, but the seller replied to me that I can return it, receiving a full refund, then I will see if buy it again.
What did the heatsink look like?
 
The water block it was completely clean. Obviously it was not a contact problem between CPU and water block
Out of interest, I took a look at my application of MX-5 on one of my systems and it looks fine. I feel bad for you, but at least you can get a replacement at no or little cost.
 
In these days I had troubles tuning up my PC, with random crashes. So after the MX5 surprise, I decided to replace the thermal paste... here how I found the situation:

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Obviously disappointed, but as someone said, it can happen... should not, with big producers, but it can happen... Here in China, we are during the Spring festival holidays, but the seller replied to me that I can return it, receiving a full refund, then I will see if buy it again.

sorry that happened to! yeah make sure to get your free replacement Arctic announced awhile back.
 
I just tried with another thermal paste, same waterblock bracket and screws pressure... Passed OCCT, Cinebench, AIDA... short stress tests. Something that with this batch MX5, was not happening. I really hope to try soon a new batch of it. For you guys, how's going on the experience with MX5?
 
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