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Epic Games Launcher increases your temperature.

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We could see that the Epic Games Launcher and associated processes were firing off data at regular intervals to over 22 different servers. This was happening whether we had the launcher open, minimized, or in the background.
:eek: :kookoo:
 
I noticed that too. When the image changes it spikes the CPU from 1v to 1.4v. I noticed that with some RGB software too. I don't use the RGB software anymore, and shut epic down when I dont use it. Steam is fine.. Dam unicorn sharted all over my pc.
 
That Reddit post looks like advertising to me.
 
I didn't see that on my Z77 or X58 systems, just on my B550 so far.
That's good. Maybe it is not as widespread or as bad as the Blue News article I quoted indicated. Still, I don't see why a launcher would be "sending" data anywhere (especially to 22! :eek: different servers), except "home" to get what is necessary to "launch" the program. And then I don't see why it would keep sending information "at regular intervals" - except, maybe, to "request" the next chunk of data needed to play the game.

But I note according to that same article, that sending of data is happening even when the user is not playing any game! :(
Fix coming soon
A fix? A "fix" would suggest something was broken, as in, not working properly. This sounds more like it was doing exactly what someone wanted it to do. That is, gather information about us and send it to 22 different servers, including at least one belonging to Amazon. I call that nothing short of egregious "spyware". :mad::mad::mad:

But they got caught red handed with their mitts in the cookie jar. And instead of fessing up to their "spyware" misdeeds, they are pretending to be shocked something like this could ever happen, that it was all a mistake and they are "fixing" it as soon as possible. Yeah right. :(

It would be nice if another reputable site verified this was happening but note this PCGames article, Epic tries to ease fears that its launcher is collecting Steam data and look at the date it was published, Mar 14, 2019! And this Mar 15, 2019 arsTechnica article. Google shows spyware accusations going back to 2016 - all denied by Epic, of course.

From December, 2018: Is Epic Games Store user data accessible by the Chinese government?

So this appears to be a recurring problem. That's bad. Really bad.

This smells just like Lenovo - another Chinese based company that was repeatedly caught putting malware on their products. A Chinese based company repeatedly accused and rumored to have ties (perhaps unwillingly or even unknowingly) with the communist Chinese overlords. :( They get caught, deny, "fix" :rolleyes: then sit back for a bit until consumers forget - then do it all over again. And why do they get away with it? Because they make otherwise, good products so consumers overlook their repeatedly bad behavior. That's just as bad!

Come on people! We consumers need to stop rewarding bad behavior. And we must not forget that the Chinese government (not to mention the Russians, North Koreans, and Iran) is actively engaging in cyberwarfare against The West. This is not tin-foil hat stuff here. They are doing it, we know they are doing it, and they are very good at it - to include being excellent at denial, and covering their tracks.
 
Err it's true. I just did a complete fresh windows install & something was eating up CPU cycle time. I'm not even sign in & you can clearly see what it's doing in Task Manager. It's making my classic computer slower.
 
Task manager says 5% of my 2600x goes to the launcher, even when closed to the tray. Pretty crappy, hopeful for a fix.
 
Interesting, the idle temps dropped from 48C to around 43C. 3600 @ 4.3GHz all-core, 1.3125V and cooled with modified Alphacool Eisbaer 240 w/ 2x ML120.
 
Task manager says 5% of my 2600x goes to the launcher, even when closed to the tray. Pretty crappy, hopeful for a fix.

I'm posting with the computer & it's still the highest. I will post a screenshot if i can capture it at it's highest point, but it's always high anyway, & i'm not even logged in.
 
Task manager says 5% of my 2600x goes to the launcher, even when closed to the tray. Pretty crappy, hopeful for a fix.
That seems to fit with what I have experienced (some 3% most of the time). That aside, since it's constant, the cores never go to sleep. And I'm observing some 2.5 GHz spikes on one or two of them, when they'd otherwise remain at speeds below 1 GHz if they didn't outright go to sleep. Temps-wise, some 10 ºC difference.

@Bill_Bright :
That's fine and all, but let's be honest. EVERYONE is spying on everyone else for their own reasons. The US does it, the UK does it, China does it, Russia does it, the dumbasses running intelligence down here do it, and the list goes on and on. And you can make an argument to defend one or another, but they're all spying. And guess what? From the point of view of each of them, everything they do is retribution for something or other that some other country did, preventive measures to protect themselves, or both.

And Microsoft, Google and other companies that could be considered "fully US companies" are also part of that problem, if you want to blast Epic for it.

As some of us say down here, every government and every country has their ass dirty, for one reason or another.

So let's just cut the politics here, because there's no one to defend and everyone deserves to get blasted to hell and back, and frankly I don't think the people stumbling into this thread need more politics than whatever they already have outside of TPU.
 
Yes, every government spies. But it is what they do with that information that matters. Does Argentina, the US or the UK embed malware in the software and hardware manufactured in those countries? Then use that information to crack down on dissidents, or to interfere with the governments of other countries?

Do those government suppress free speech and jail those who speak out against the government? Are you free to move around in Argentina, or even leave Argentina if you want?

This is not about politics.
 
Did not even notice until it was mentioned, checked now and 5-6% on my 1600x as long as the store tab is open in the launcher.

Once switched to the library tab it goes down to ~2%, considering that I almost never keep the launcher open its like whatever.

I have like 7 launchers installed on my system but only open them when I want to start/play a game so I really don't pay attention to such things. :laugh: 'mainly using GoG galaxy but the rest still has to be installed'
 
I have like 7 launchers installed on my system but only open them when I want to start/play a game so I really don't pay attention to such things. :laugh: 'mainly using GoG galaxy but the rest still has to be installed'
Kinda same. Steam, Origin, Uplay, GOG, Battle.net and Epic. And they all automatically start when I boot my PC because why not, having unnecessary problems without autostart is so yesterday. :laugh:
 
I didn't see that on my Z77 or X58 systems, just on my B550 so far.

Intel context switching is abysmally slow compared to Zen so yea, you wouldn't see it until you knew to look for it. PPL only noticed this because Zen 2/3 can switch power states in 1ms.


We need some security firms to look into whatever the hell its doing phoning home.
 
Intel context switching is abysmally slow compared to Zen so yea, you wouldn't see it until you knew to look for it. PPL only noticed this because Zen 2/3 can switch power states in 1ms.


We need some security firms to look into whatever the hell its doing phoning home.
Yes indeed. I should have noted my Intel systems have been on the shelf for the last month, but I have had Epic for awhile now, and do grab the free games for my kids and me. So I haven't noticed on them recently.. It is also impressive how these Ryzen CPU's work. Its a keeper for sure.

I havent used a hardcore av/firewall suite for some time.. but I remember black ice defender used to be able to show you all of your traffic, and who is sniffing what.. good old Kazaa, Limewire and that donkey one lol. But even back then Chinese Universities and such would show up on the list and that was back in like 2002 lol.
 
“If you’re not paying for the product, you are the product.”
 
Is this just an AMD thing? I don't seem to have this issue with two intel pcs (nor my son's zen+)...
You are probably right. At the office I mainly use a branded PC with i7 6700 non-K and Intel's stock cooler. During downloading a free game for the kids and with multiple tasks open, including my own work program, CPU maxed at 45C. After downloading, while epic games launcher is still active, the CPU stays below 30C.
 
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