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System Name | VENTURI |
---|---|
Processor | 2x AMD 7773x Epyc (128/256 cores) |
Motherboard | Gigabyte MZ72-HB0 Dual socket motherboard |
Cooling | Air, noctua, heatsinks, silent/low noise |
Memory | 1.TB 2 LRDIMM ECC REG |
Video Card(s) | 2x 4090 FE RTX |
Storage | Raid 0 Micron 9300 Max (15.4TB each / 77TB array - overprovisioned to 64TB) & 8TB OS nvme |
Display(s) | Asus ProArt PAU32UCG-K |
Case | TT miniITX P1 (SFF) |
Audio Device(s) | harmon Kardon speakers / apple |
Power Supply | 1600 AXi digital (silent) |
Mouse | Mad Catz pro X |
Keyboard | KeyChron Q6 Pro |
Software | MS 2022 Data Center Server, Ubuntu |
Benchmark Scores | Gravity mark 136,708 (high score) |
I am not impressed with what I have gone through.....
Monitors I am using, have used
Asus PA32UCG, PA32UCX, PG32UQX
Porsche Design PD32M.
Results
*PA32UCG - best of the 4, but still has issues. HDMI 2.1 may cause no boot screen/bios, mostly only works after windows is booted. Any firmware above 103m cause huge blooming issues.
Firmware 103, seems the best and makes the monitor worthwhile. Displayport 1.4 DSC works, however, in windows there is a 1-3 second blank / black screen when switching between 2d and 3d.
Monitor can do 120hz, freesynch and 10 bit colour. It can do 144hz on dp 1.4 and hdmi 2.1 if you go to 8 bit color. I was hoping for a 103 firmware visually capable update that also enabled 10 bit HDMI 2.1 at 144 because there isn't a limitation in the HDMI 2.1 standard. Brighter and more accurate than any monitor out there with best image quality. This is the one I use, this is the best, with a large grain of salt.
PA32UCX - similar to PA32UCG except only 60hz, firmware 106 is the best on this monitor. No HDMI 2.1, and no DP 1.4 (only DP 1.2). Great picture like the PA32UCG. Kept it for wife's PC (she is into photography). If you like 60hz, this is a better monitor.
PG32UQX, a gaming monitor.120hz, 144hz only at 8 bit colour. Not as bright as PA32UCG and far from the same visual quality lots of blooming and firmware issues. Painful to look at in 2d a 3d due to excessive blooming and colour distortion. I did a RETURN on this one after countless hours with ASUS trying to figure out why the image quality is so different from the PA32UCG despite similar panels. Bad uniformity.
Porsche Design PD32M (AOC) - best hardware, worst firmware. after trying two monitors I had to return both monitors. Terrible blooming, inferior brightness, horrible OSD, lousy tech support. The hardware has all the capabilities to dominate, but poor AOC firmware killed it. RETURN and RETURN --- PS as of writing this post, AOC tech support denies all knowledge of having this monitor. Nor do they ANYONE in house that I had high hopes on this monitor, it has great potential, but alas, hardware is only as good as firmware and drivers supporting it.
*PA32UCG - great potential if Asus support could be effective. Even though I have this monitor and have 1 on my desk - I had to do 4 returns to get 1 without issues.
Issues: HDMI 2.1 port stopped working and dead pixels on one monitor, dim brightness on one corner in 1 monitor, large halo in one corner on another monitor, a stripe/ dirt/ defect under the screen in another monitor. Lastly Asus customer service has seriously take a nose dive, and don't blame COVID for bad QA.
So yes, I have 1 and I think its the best one out there - trouble is I had to buy 5 monitors/returns to get to 1 that was acceptable.
synthesis
PA32UCG is the best monitor for 2D 3D pro work and the best gaming monitor and on firmware 103 it seems to be what one desires/expects. HOWEVER, the price is stupid high and QA issues plague the product line. ($5000)
the PD32M has the best potential (hardware) but AOC firmware and a lack of support signifies this is a dead product, the way it shipped is the way it will always be with little chance of a fixed firmware. ($1800)
PG32uQX- it could gave been better, but ASUS is not going to improve it because it would compete with the $2000 more PA32UCG and PA32UCX that cost 2k more. ($3000)
PA32UCX - same as PA32UCX, overpriced at 4500 and 5000 (very overpriced) but 2nd place in the whole FALD market. ($4500)
So in total I have gone through 9 monitors to have 1 PA32UCG and 1 PA32UCX.
(not counting my attempt at the mac monitor and the Samsung fald monitor, which was disappointing at an extreme level, and the Dell with 2000 lighting zones, but slow screen and only 60 hz, but also much dimmer/less bright than expected)
not happy with the limited, bad QA, overpriced offerings.
no, the mac is not an option, the samsung G is also not an option, both are replete with issues. Also anything less than HDR1400 (1600 preferred), 600cd nominal brightness, and no less the the 1152 lighting zones are a prerequisite. Lower count lighting zones results in more blooming and a "checkerboard" lighting effect.
Update:
the "one" PA32UCG-K that I have without any issues with the one I bought last (of course), interestingly --it has a manufacture date of "November 2020" on the label, the onboard bios however reports "2020, week 30" --- the PA32UCG monitors did not become available till June 2021, so it would seem manufacture took place almost a year prior. Both onboard bios and label somewhat agree to the prior year.
side notes:
some notes: OLED burn-in is an issue without a solution if you use your monitor for productivity and rely on text/ font etc, OLED brightness is not really bear HDR visuals. The PA32UCG is rated 1t 1600 for brightness but routinely does 1800 - for productivity and accuracy IPS panels are better than VA. VA fonts and accuracy / sharpness / detail is worse than IPS. I returned an OLED because even just doing 2 hours of WORD for a paper/school, the screen had a permanent shadow of the menu and the white portrait rectangle like a watermark. Switching to a solid gray background (72.72.72) always showed the watermark - always may be a strong word, for the 8 days I tried to live with it there was a watermark that faded bit ever completely went away - and this was a return.
full array backlit should only be considered if it can do LOCAL DIMMING in 2d / 3d without HDR enabled. User should have control over when to apply the FALD and at what speed and intensity.
Monitors I am using, have used
Asus PA32UCG, PA32UCX, PG32UQX
Porsche Design PD32M.
Results
*PA32UCG - best of the 4, but still has issues. HDMI 2.1 may cause no boot screen/bios, mostly only works after windows is booted. Any firmware above 103m cause huge blooming issues.
Firmware 103, seems the best and makes the monitor worthwhile. Displayport 1.4 DSC works, however, in windows there is a 1-3 second blank / black screen when switching between 2d and 3d.
Monitor can do 120hz, freesynch and 10 bit colour. It can do 144hz on dp 1.4 and hdmi 2.1 if you go to 8 bit color. I was hoping for a 103 firmware visually capable update that also enabled 10 bit HDMI 2.1 at 144 because there isn't a limitation in the HDMI 2.1 standard. Brighter and more accurate than any monitor out there with best image quality. This is the one I use, this is the best, with a large grain of salt.
PA32UCX - similar to PA32UCG except only 60hz, firmware 106 is the best on this monitor. No HDMI 2.1, and no DP 1.4 (only DP 1.2). Great picture like the PA32UCG. Kept it for wife's PC (she is into photography). If you like 60hz, this is a better monitor.
PG32UQX, a gaming monitor.120hz, 144hz only at 8 bit colour. Not as bright as PA32UCG and far from the same visual quality lots of blooming and firmware issues. Painful to look at in 2d a 3d due to excessive blooming and colour distortion. I did a RETURN on this one after countless hours with ASUS trying to figure out why the image quality is so different from the PA32UCG despite similar panels. Bad uniformity.
Porsche Design PD32M (AOC) - best hardware, worst firmware. after trying two monitors I had to return both monitors. Terrible blooming, inferior brightness, horrible OSD, lousy tech support. The hardware has all the capabilities to dominate, but poor AOC firmware killed it. RETURN and RETURN --- PS as of writing this post, AOC tech support denies all knowledge of having this monitor. Nor do they ANYONE in house that I had high hopes on this monitor, it has great potential, but alas, hardware is only as good as firmware and drivers supporting it.
*PA32UCG - great potential if Asus support could be effective. Even though I have this monitor and have 1 on my desk - I had to do 4 returns to get 1 without issues.
Issues: HDMI 2.1 port stopped working and dead pixels on one monitor, dim brightness on one corner in 1 monitor, large halo in one corner on another monitor, a stripe/ dirt/ defect under the screen in another monitor. Lastly Asus customer service has seriously take a nose dive, and don't blame COVID for bad QA.
So yes, I have 1 and I think its the best one out there - trouble is I had to buy 5 monitors/returns to get to 1 that was acceptable.
synthesis
PA32UCG is the best monitor for 2D 3D pro work and the best gaming monitor and on firmware 103 it seems to be what one desires/expects. HOWEVER, the price is stupid high and QA issues plague the product line. ($5000)
the PD32M has the best potential (hardware) but AOC firmware and a lack of support signifies this is a dead product, the way it shipped is the way it will always be with little chance of a fixed firmware. ($1800)
PG32uQX- it could gave been better, but ASUS is not going to improve it because it would compete with the $2000 more PA32UCG and PA32UCX that cost 2k more. ($3000)
PA32UCX - same as PA32UCX, overpriced at 4500 and 5000 (very overpriced) but 2nd place in the whole FALD market. ($4500)
So in total I have gone through 9 monitors to have 1 PA32UCG and 1 PA32UCX.
(not counting my attempt at the mac monitor and the Samsung fald monitor, which was disappointing at an extreme level, and the Dell with 2000 lighting zones, but slow screen and only 60 hz, but also much dimmer/less bright than expected)
not happy with the limited, bad QA, overpriced offerings.
no, the mac is not an option, the samsung G is also not an option, both are replete with issues. Also anything less than HDR1400 (1600 preferred), 600cd nominal brightness, and no less the the 1152 lighting zones are a prerequisite. Lower count lighting zones results in more blooming and a "checkerboard" lighting effect.
Update:
the "one" PA32UCG-K that I have without any issues with the one I bought last (of course), interestingly --it has a manufacture date of "November 2020" on the label, the onboard bios however reports "2020, week 30" --- the PA32UCG monitors did not become available till June 2021, so it would seem manufacture took place almost a year prior. Both onboard bios and label somewhat agree to the prior year.
side notes:
some notes: OLED burn-in is an issue without a solution if you use your monitor for productivity and rely on text/ font etc, OLED brightness is not really bear HDR visuals. The PA32UCG is rated 1t 1600 for brightness but routinely does 1800 - for productivity and accuracy IPS panels are better than VA. VA fonts and accuracy / sharpness / detail is worse than IPS. I returned an OLED because even just doing 2 hours of WORD for a paper/school, the screen had a permanent shadow of the menu and the white portrait rectangle like a watermark. Switching to a solid gray background (72.72.72) always showed the watermark - always may be a strong word, for the 8 days I tried to live with it there was a watermark that faded bit ever completely went away - and this was a return.
full array backlit should only be considered if it can do LOCAL DIMMING in 2d / 3d without HDR enabled. User should have control over when to apply the FALD and at what speed and intensity.
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