Feature Requests

[blind_ripper]

withe the new 492 systemtool i stil cant read my fbs on Abit AI7
help plz

 

[kRaZeD]

I was bored, so I was testing the RAM timings on my computer and I first went Read for the mem timings, and then I click Write, without changing any settings, I then clicked Read again, and the timings had changed, from 2-3-3-6 to 2-4-4-6.

Full specs of machine:
Gigabyte GA-8KNXP Rev2 (i875 chipset with latest BIOS)
Prescott 3.0 @ Stock
512mb (single stick) Hynix D43 (PC3200)
nVidiot FX5900XT
WinXP Pro SP2

Stock timings for the RAM is 3-4-4-8 @ PC3200 (i know, VERY bad) but it is completely stable @ 2-3-3-6 with ~2.7v

I have also tried changing the timings, from the my stock (2-3-3-6) to 3-4-4-8, and it went to 2-4-4-6. Out of frustration, I repeatedly click on Write, and that isnt exactly the best thing to do... Blue screen, and for some reason even though I have it set to NOT restart on BSOD's it did. So I think it would probably be a good idea to give a 1 - 2 second cool down on the Write button.

 

[wazzledoozle]

i cant read the fbs on my abit AI7 whate now can soem wanne help me plz

The Nforce 2 clockgen is broken.

 

[fAlCoNNiAn]

when the find max fsb, if its a pentium 4 or a dual core processor, there should be 2 threads for testing, not one.

 

[v_lestat]

hhmm the mobo support request thread was closed so any support for the MSI NEO2 Platinum ?
or if its there can someone direct me how to make it work.

 

[sideeffect]

Neo 2 support has just been added and it mostly works ok. The cpu vcore is wrong though. Before neo 2 was added i used the W83627THF Generic monitor and it gave the correct voltage readings confimed by checking it against msi corecenter.

so use W83627THF Generic for neo 2 until the vcore reading is fixed imo

 

[W1zzard]

weird .. i just wanted to fix that and it's both the same code

 

[_xhp_]

Some nice things:

1a) export hardware data to some form of shared memory (like mbm or rivatuner) so everybody can read it. This way you would not have to do things like osds and dashboards - users could write standalone apps and you could concentrate on the more important stuff...

1b) implement an option to export hardware data (at least temps/volst/fans) in the SAME format as mbm5 does it - this way you get mbm dashboard and osd for free - these tools that come with mbm are just dummy shared memory readers. There have been a lot of posts requesting plugins for LCDs - do it this way and all of the problems are solved - 90% of LCD can display mbm data
We could use samurize with it to get a cool looking GUI ...

When I get some sort of OSD I'll uninstall mbm5 and start using systool - until then - keep up the great work ...

EDIT:

and please, add a way to disable that mass of icons in the tray. You could add a simple bubble popup as the default doubleclick action...

and if you want to implement that osd yourself (dont like the shared memory idea) check this out:
http://www.codeproject.com/w2k/forecast.asp

 

[sideeffect]

Yes same for me as soon as systool can show the temps and voltage rails more easily i wont need to use speedfan anymore.

Atm when systool shows all the temps in one big line in the taskbar is just annoying cause i have like 7 temps

 

[W1zzard]

can you people suggest how you want the visual output of the sensors? the more detailed the more easy for me .. i tend to get caught in building way too complex stuff .. please give me some ideas .. drawings will help

 

[_xhp_]

So you're not for the shared memory idea... No problem.. I have a new idea...

1) Do NOT implement complex visual output yourself - simple bubble tooltip popup with all the hardware monitoring info is all we need. This way the size of the executable can be kept small...

This does not mean that one can not have beautifull GUI display, which brings me to:

2) Write a simple Samurize plugin that could enable showing the hardware monitoring data from systool
Check out http://www.samurize.com/modules/news/
Some of nice looking skins:
http://www.samurize.com/modules/myalbum/

And you get all of that for less then 3MB of memory (when the display is inactive) + 2BM systool = 5MB -> not to much (and the user does not have to use the plugin is he does not want fancy GUI)...

The samurize is not a copeting product to systool (it can show hardware monitoring data only if it detects speedfan or mbm5 in the background, however it can show a lot of simple things from windows by it self)...

There is a C++ plugin sample that comes with samurize - check it out...

If you run into some problems you can contact me...

EDIT:
http://www.samurize.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2986
http://tendukom1slip.free.fr/mbm/samurize.png

 

[W1zzard]

shared memory has been added for sensors. feedback please

 

[_xhp_]

Sorry man... Just seen it...

I guess that means I could write the samurize plugin myself (if it is ok with you)
You concentrate on the important stuff...

 

[W1zzard]

sure if you need any assistance or have suggestions for better memory layout or whatever feel free to drop me a line .. instant messenger contact preferred

 

[_xhp_]

sure if you need any assistance or have suggestions for better memory layout or whatever feel free to drop me a line .. instant messenger contact preferred

OK, I'll have a better look at the memory layout tomorrow (I'll post what I think here)...

 

[MikeR]

Update on A8V clock generator

Any update on when we might get the Clock generator for the A8V Deluxe added ICS950405?

 

[_xhp_]

Feature requests (for hardware monitoring use):

1) add an option to disable the monitoring tray icons

2) add an option to start systool minimized (so it can start normaly with windows and go imediatly to tray)

 

[W1zzard]

i'm building the "add tray icon" interface right now ..

what would you like to customize?

font, font color, background?

given the space, does it make sense to add sensors other than temperature?

 

[djbbenn]

Ya, be able to change font size and colours, and maybe even backgrounds. For the tray, be able to hold your mouse pointer over a icon and a popup will come up with a readout of temps and voltages, instead of having them taking space up in the tray.

-Dan

 

[W1zzard]

uh? hold the mouse pointer over an icon in the tray so that you get the readout from the icon? and this does not take up space in the tray?

 

[djbbenn]

You have one icon in it, instead of having all of the temps there. You know how theres all the temp readouts if you have it selected? Well just have one icon and when you put the pointer over it, a menu or popup, will come up and show all the readouts.

-Dan

 

[W1zzard]

ok so the systool main icon stays and when you mouseover it the tooltip shows all temperatures?

 

[djbbenn]

Ya thats it...and it will be able to have voltages aswell. Also, have it so when it shows the temps, it tells you what they are for too.

-Dan

 

[W1zzard]

hmm problem .. looks like you cant replace the trayicon tooltips, nor be notified when windows shows the tooltip .. so i guess the show sensors data on mouseover is not possible ..
any other ideas?

 

[djbbenn]

Damn, that sucks...what about a menu, like you right click on it or single click for menu and double to open systool.

-Dan