Firefox Ditches 'Do Not Track' Feature in Version 135 in Favor of 'Global Privacy Control'

[_roman_]

Tell that to Laptop makers who keep soldering 16GB of RAM(optional extra until recently so most of time its 8GB base) for their office oriented notebooks and even with 32GB of RAM these notebooks come to a crawl.

You mean 8GiB of DRAM which is also used for the chipset graphics.
So basically 6GiB for a 370€ notebook without windows license. Just checked a few hours ago.
Most laptops have soldered components. There is no upgrade option for the dram.

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[Tartaros]

I use Chrome at work and Firefox at home and I wouldn't say Chrome is any faster really. Not meaningfully so anyway. That said some sites just don't work on Firefox. Filling out like important forms and stuff online usually requires Chrome for me. Some drop down menus don't work right on Firefox, especially not the mobile version.

I'm in the same boat, I used Edge at work pretty much forced because is company policy and Chrome at home, then I went back to Firefox at home after they added support for the RTX video upscale thing after 5 years of not using it. Speed is about the same but you don't have to do tricks to completely erase the cache once you close it and also don't have to deal with adblock ban nonsense. The Chrome ecosystem has become the same stupid and spiteful bullshit towards end users as IE back in the day, they don't offer anything better but also have restrictions. They can go the same dodo path as IE for all I care.

 

[Zareek]

yes, i agree



people have been saying this for 15 years now, it will be fine, even if it did die, an offshoot would take the lead, like Waterfox or PaleMoon, maybe not as nice, but yeah Chromium will never be king, especially now that v3 update has pissed off so many people

Brave will eventually have to move to v3 btw, they can delay it for awhile sure, but eventually their adblocking will suffer because of the v3 chromimum update

I'm definitely concerned about that, hopefully someone figures out something better by then.

 

[R-T-B]

sites don't support

Most are legally required to support this or block those states visitors, so of course this is a false comparison. Support is MUCH broader for this.

 

[chrcoluk]

So they changed the http header that sites don't support (or ignore, or use for fingerprinting) into a different http header that sites don't support (or ignore, or use for fingerprinting). Fucking genius, give the Mozilla CEO another pay raise, I think he/she hasn't gotten one in at least a month.

Pretty much my thought as well. They just moved as this is something newer. I still wont tick that box.

I remember one thing came out Musk's mouth, and it was actually a good idea.

Take the cookie prompts we have now which are only there due to legislation, but make them centralised, so once you select your preference, the law requires websites to honour that preference. It wont be perfect, we will still have the "because you reject tracking cookies we wont let you use our site", but it would be an improvement, I would also enforce a minimum period of time to remember the setting, something like 3 months, and for it survive browser updates as well.

We also need changes to 2FA, every time there is a browser update, suddenly I am considered to be on a "new device" so need to 2FA auth again. Apparently I have used 17 different devices on Nintendo's website, nope I have just used 2.

 

[trsttte]

I would also enforce a minimum period of time to remember the setting, something like 3 months, and for it survive browser updates as well

You're replacing a form of tracking with a new form of tracking. For them to remember that setting they would need a way to identify you and that not happening is the entire reason behind do not track and global privacy control.

We also need changes to 2FA, every time there is a browser update, suddenly I am considered to be on a "new device" so need to 2FA auth again. Apparently I have used 17 different devices on Nintendo's website, nope I have just used 2.

Browser fingerprint changed so it's treated as a new device. That's a good thing, not a problem that needs fixed. The fix would be to open a door to session highjack attacks.

 

[chrcoluk]

You're replacing a form of tracking with a new form of tracking. For them to remember that setting they would need a way to identify you and that not happening is the entire reason behind do not track and global privacy control.



Browser fingerprint changed so it's treated as a new device. That's a good thing, not a problem that needs fixed. The fix would be to open a door to session highjack attacks.

You are right, but it is what it is, better than having constant cookie prompts.

Personally I am currently ok with metrics, telemetry, being tracked. Those in principle now dont bother me that much unless I think its excessive like scanning documents, contacts, network that sort of thing, however I dont like noise, things that slow down browsing, intrusive adverts, extra javascript that sort of thing, and of course constant cookie prompts, so my motivation is cleaning things up rather than hiding my footsteps. Ublock origin as an example I have no privacy filters loaded, just ad and security filters.

Some people seem to have become obsessed with not tracked to the point they are prepared to load up a dozen black lists. break some web sites, devices and what not so they cant be tracked by anything.

 

[svan71]

I hate Google, but Firefox needs a UI overhaul, it looks like a 90's browser. They have earned their pathetically small share of the browser market.

 

[DudeBeFishing]

I hate Google, but Firefox needs a UI overhaul, it looks like a 90's browser. They have earned their pathetically small share of the browser market.

I don't see 10+ toolbars on my Firefox.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

I hate Google, but Firefox needs a UI overhaul, it looks like a 90's browser. They have earned their pathetically small share of the browser market.

I take it you've not loaded up a '90s web browser lately.

My complaint? It's almost TOO modern. Edge, FF and Chrome are barely distinguishable from each other without customization.

 

[svan71]

I take it you've not loaded up a '90s web browser lately.

My complaint? It's almost TOO modern. Edge, FF and Chrome are barely distinguishable from each other without customization.

Yeah if

I take it you've not loaded up a '90s web browser lately.

My complaint? It's almost TOO modern. Edge, FF and Chrome are barely distinguishable from each other without customization.

When you compare browsers based on chromium, they do tend to look alike.