Help me choose my new ISP!

[bubbleawsome]

Aw man, sucks for you. I couldn't live with that internet. Call me spoiled but I've been having trouble adjusting to 11/3 internet after having 65/5.

Good luck on whichever you choose!

 

[hat]

Those prices are insane to me. I don't know what your financial situation is but I couldn't imagine paying more than what it takes for the DSL. Maybe spring for the T1 if you're serious about gaming and all... it's not a lot of bandwidth, but gaming doesn't take much. The DSL would easily get congested though... but even on the T1 something like netflix streaming could probably cripple gaming performance.

 

[eidairaman1]

Untill the boonies he lives in gets developed, he wont see an affordable price- ps fttp is better than fttn.

 

[Aquinus]

Aw man, sucks for you. I couldn't live with that internet. Call me spoiled but I've been having trouble adjusting to 11/3 internet after having 65/5.

Good luck on whichever you choose!

I could never go back. Sometimes I have to figure if my bottleneck is my wireless or my modem.

Granted, I live in a very populated area and Boston is only a couple hops on Comcast's network away so I have it pretty good (internet wise) but I don't have 5 acres and waterfront though (considering I'm an hour-ish out of Boston). You can't really have your cake and eat it too unless you're really well off. You need people who live near you who want a service, otherwise there is no reason for them to expand out your way.

 

[DanishDevil]

Yeah for them to extend fiber to even a node in that arwa costs tons.

Yeah and out of the two companies that are nearby, one is a pretty large business (meaning if it's not profitable for them they're not going to consider it) and the other was a small business that was aggressively expanding that may have been up for hooking us up, but they were recently acquired.

Please inform us of your choice. I want to get some land, just like you have someday and may have to make a similar decision.

Will do! Right now, I'm leaning towards the T1 option, especially because they have a 50% ETF after the first 12 months if something better happens to come along. I don't think I could handle the DSL.

Aw man, sucks for you. I couldn't live with that internet. Call me spoiled but I've been having trouble adjusting to 11/3 internet after having 65/5.

Good luck on whichever you choose!

I recently got bumped to 200/25, so I'm gonna have a very severe version of what you're feeling when I move! Thanks!

Those prices are insane to me. I don't know what your financial situation is but I couldn't imagine paying more than what it takes for the DSL. Maybe spring for the T1 if you're serious about gaming and all... it's not a lot of bandwidth, but gaming doesn't take much. The DSL would easily get congested though... but even on the T1 something like netflix streaming could probably cripple gaming performance.

According to Netflix, you need 5Mb down to stream 720P. My wife has already started buying DVDs to make up for it. It's just going to be the two of us right now, so we'll just have to watch out when I want to game and she wants to watch a movie. The DSL would likely make my hair fall out, give me ulcers, and probably heart palpitations.

Untill the boonies he lives in gets developed, he wont see an affordable price- ps fttp is better than fttn.

With it all being 5 acre lots, it's doubtful that they'll ever get developed further than they are now. Also, looked into those acronyms & I'm not 100% sure which it would be, but I'd wager FTTP.

I could never go back. Sometimes I have to figure if my bottleneck is my wireless or my modem.

Granted, I live in a very populated area and Boston is only a couple hops on Comcast's network away so I have it pretty good (internet wise) but I don't have 5 acres and waterfront though (considering I'm an hour-ish out of Boston). You can't really have your cake and eat it too unless you're really well off. You need people who live near you who want a service, otherwise there is no reason for them to expand out your way.

Maybe if the older generation's kids end up staying in the area, I'll have more people who want to pitch in.

 

[eidairaman1]

Fttn is fiber to a node from the co to a irad/vrad from there goes to a existing copper telco sai /crossbox, fttp is fiber to the prem from the co all the way to your home-normally a PON (bpon/gpon) hooked to side of home then ethernet connection is required.

 

[DanishDevil]

I am signing the contract with for 3/3 T1 for $220/mo. Wish me luck!

 

[Jborg]

Ill stick with the speed at my dads house - 250KB/s



Luckily its 5 mb/s at my moms.

 

[eidairaman1]

Where the heck are they?

 

[Easy Rhino]

Boo. Bad choice. You obviously have money if you are purchasing 5 acres outside Sacramento... Why not add value to your lot and get that 20/20 fiber line installed. It woul dbe a HUGE bonus if you decide to sell, especially where you are. A lot of techies retreat to outside Sacramento and would love a dedicated fiber line.

 

[Nordic]

Thank you for sharing. Interesting that you took the middle choice.

 

[Aquinus]

Boo. Bad choice. You obviously have money if you are purchasing 5 acres outside Sacramento... Why not add value to your lot and get that 20/20 fiber line installed. It woul dbe a HUGE bonus if you decide to sell, especially where you are. A lot of techies retreat to outside Sacramento and would love a dedicated fiber line.

You could even brag to your neighbors and offer to sell them a slice of the pie using a wave guide antenna across that pond of yours. They'll love you for it.

 

[Dbiggs9]

That price is unreal! i wish you luck.

 

[DanishDevil]

[voice=Professor Farnsworth]Good news everyone![/voice] The ISP found a vacant pair so I don't have to pay any install fees for the T1 line! Installation is set for later this month. I'll update you guys on my impressions later.

 

[Aquinus]

[voice=Professor Farnsworth]Good news everyone![/voice] The ISP found a vacant pair so I don't have to pay any install fees for the T1 line! Installation is set for later this month. I'll update you guys on my impressions later.

Lucky. That alone makes it worth it considering the cost of installation. Optimal, no. Usable, sure.

 

[Nordic]

Free installation makes up for the slow internet. That is 15 months free internet kind of. $3000/$200 = 15 months

 

[OneMoar]

a T1 is going to be worthless lol
3 Megabit ? thats ADSL slow . .

 

[Aquinus]

a T1 is going to be worthless lol

When the next best thing is fiber that's going to cost 15,000 USD to install and another 500 USD a month just to get 20/20? I think you should keep the options in perspective.

 

[OneMoar]

When the next best thing is fiber that's going to cost 15,000 USD to install and another 500 USD a month just to get 20/20? I think you should keep the options in perspective.

I would love to know why fiber would be 15k unless hes starting his own ISP or is paying to have lines run
either way hes not going to be gaming on a T1 line
forget about it at 3/3 over a T1 expect ping times to LA to hit about 120Ms if you are going to the east coast FORGET ABOUT IT

 

[Aquinus]

I would love to know why fiber would be 15k unless hes starting his own ISP or is paying to have lines run
either way hes not going to be gaming on a T1 line
forget about it

If you read the thread you would know that. There is no cable where he lives, DSL is far away so speeds are crap and to get fiber he needs to have it run out to his house; it's not already there.

Leave it to you to not read the thread before posting...

 

[OneMoar]

If you read the thread you would know that. There is no cable where he lives, DSL is far away so speeds are crap and to get fiber he needs to have it run out to his house; it's not already there.

Leave it to you to not read the thread before posting...

WELP Hes SOL then

 

[Nordic]

@OneMoar, if you actually read it the 3/3 is not a bad choice given the limited options.

I've got some really shitty options at my new place (it's one of many 5 acre lots in the area, so the ISP's won't give us better options because of lack of population density). I will be moving in within the next 6 months, but the ISPs need several weeks heads up to get things rolling.


20Mb/20Mb Fiber - $15,000 install, $500/mo
This is contingent on me and another customer both pulling the trigger to split the construction cost. This obviously would be the higher performing option. This is on a 5yr contract, ETF is 100% of remaining contract, period. They have also offered a 100/100 option for $3500 install and $1195/mo and 4yr contract, but the wife has pretty much vetoed that.

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WELP Hes SOL then

Sounds like you don't understand this thread at all. There are other things to do than be online, especially if you have a nice 5 acre lot with water on it.

 

[eidairaman1]

[voice=Professor Farnsworth]Good news everyone![/voice] The ISP found a vacant pair so I don't have to pay any install fees for the T1 line! Installation is set for later this month. I'll update you guys on my impressions later.

I hope they dont have to do additional conditioning to make it work (dig ups/resplicing

 

[bubbleawsome]

Funny thing is, that 3/3 internet is faster than when I had 3/1 for $60/mo

 

[OneMoar]

Funny thing is, that 3/3 internet is faster than when I had 3/1 for $60/mo

Hes paying 150.00 a month +3k to install it ...