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Microsoft Visual Studio pro or Java/macromedia/shockwave
Which would you start with and Why
MS VSpro is free....
Which would you start with and Why
MS VSpro is free....
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Yeah Visual Express 2008 is free, and I think it's a natural progression of interest..I hope you do get into as well, I've been thinking about this for some time now i just haven't "Done it"VSpro because it's free in a way. I find it funny you're asking that, i'm thinking of getting into this stuff myself
All good to know, and helps a lot thanks FordJava has no standard IDE, Adobe pisses me off, and Visual Studio is the best overall IDE bar none. Especially with .NET, all you really have to know is "Microsoft," "System," and the syntax of the language. Everything else just falls in place.
I think I will too, thanksVS hands down. Love it!
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VSpro because it's free in a way. I find it funny you're asking that, i'm thinking of getting into this stuff myself
The only thing that would prevent one from using VS is if they want to do Java programming.
VS does not support Java at all anymore, after Sun sued MS for bastardizing the Java standard in their own implementation of it, Sun won a 20 million dollar verdict, and MS bailed on Java.
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http://www.linuxlinks.com/portal/content/reviews/converting/Screenshots/Screenshot-Eclipse.png
Burn it after you download it then you won't have to download again unless you decide to go for 2010 once it is out of beta.Wow 79mb's short of 4gb Downloading now
Hope you don't mind me bugging you about this often....
Not completely... The full story is that Visual Studio 6 had J++ which is its own brand of IDE/compiler which used Sun's Java Run Time (JRT). Sun got their undies in a bundle, as you stated, and sued. Microsoft felt that a standard library like Sun's JRT is the future. so they took a 4 year hiatus (1998-2002) making their own known as the .NET Framework. Microsoft made their own Java friendly language for it too known as J# (J Sharp). Sun couldn't bitch and moan about .NET nor J# because they were practically reversed engineered/coded from the ground up. However, J# didn't have one thing Java did: cross-platform support. Developers, therefore, saw no reason to switch to J#. J# support was terminated in .NET Framework 2.0.The only thing that would prevent one from using VS is if they want to do Java programming.
VS does not support Java at all anymore, after Sun sued MS for bastardizing the Java standard in their own implementation of it, Sun won a 20 million dollar verdict, and MS bailed on Java.
It's funny you should mention that I Keep all of my important ISO's on a separate External HD + I usually make a Backup Disc, However I ran out of Blank DVD's and was to Lazy to go get some from the store...this explains the rest...http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=106097Eclipse is the closest Java IDE to Visual Studio. It isn't as finely tuned but it is the best I tried.
Here's a pic of Eclipse (copy and paste it):
Code:http://www.linuxlinks.com/portal/content/reviews/converting/Screenshots/Screenshot-Eclipse.png
Burn it after you download it then you won't have to download again unless you decide to go for 2010 once it is out of beta.
Not completely... The full story is that Visual Studio 6 had J++ which is its own brand of IDE/compiler which used Sun's Java Run Time (JRT). Sun got their undies in a bundle, as you stated, and sued. Microsoft felt that a standard library like Sun's JRT is the future. so they took a 4 year hiatus (1998-2002) making their own known as the .NET Framework. Microsoft made their own Java friendly language for it too known as J# (J Sharp). Sun couldn't bitch and moan about .NET nor J# because they were practically reversed engineered/coded from the ground up. However, J# didn't have one thing Java did: cross-platform support. Developers, therefore, saw no reason to switch to J#. J# support was terminated in .NET Framework 2.0.
C# is a lot like Java in syntax and general scheme of things. .NET Framework is vastly superior than JRT (better laid out, more features, 100% object oriented) but JRT has the advantage of being cross-platform. People who only care about Windows, C# wins hands down. People who care about more than just Windows will most likely use Java.
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Storage | Samsung 980 Pro, Seagate Exos X20 TB 7200 RPM |
Display(s) | Nixeus NX-EDG274K (3840x2160@144 DP) + Samsung SyncMaster 906BW (1440x900@60 HDMI-DVI) |
Case | Coolermaster HAF 932 w/ USB 3.0 5.25" bay + USB 3.2 (A+C) 3.5" bay |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek ALC1150, Micca OriGen+ |
Power Supply | Enermax Platimax 850w |
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It pulls up a menu as you type. E.g. java.awt. would pull up the awt members/descriptions.@Ford
I loaded NetBeans 6.7.1 and it looks pretty close to the VS IDE.
From you posted image, NetBeans and Eclipse look pretty close to each other too.
Is there something that Eclipse does inparticular that makes it your preference?