Help Picking Between Gaming Laptops

Pivo187 · Mar 4, 2023

Currently cane across this: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-r...cie-4-0-ssd-off-black/6494637.p?skuId=6494637

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-r...07gFnO3IYFxE0NE5cOUaAu8-EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-sw...ssd-16gb-memory-white/6511433.p?skuId=6511433

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/alienw...dark-side-of-the-moon/6510330.p?skuId=6510330
Also the alien ware bc it can output to hdmi 2.1. Planning to get the LG c2 TV for when I'm not on the go.
Is this the best for the price?
Thinking amd might be better for less heat? Also the Alienware one is 2099 everywhere else

Anyone alive around here?!

Pivo187 · Mar 5, 2023

Bump anyone?

ShiBDiB · Mar 5, 2023

Stating the obvious... if you don't absolutely need portability get a desktop. Gaming and laptops just equals heat and atrocious battery performance along with a bloated price tag. Better off getting a lower end laptop for travel and have a desktop at home imo.

That alienware is wildly overpriced, paying for the brand.
The MSI seems to have heat issues.
The 2 ASUS ones seem to be the best options. Depending on what you plan on playing will determine if the price increase is worth it for .4" of screen and a beefier graphics card.

Sidenote, I hate how hard it is to find a good laptop with 32GB of RAM.

Assimilator · Mar 5, 2023

ShiBDiB said:
Stating the obvious... if you don't absolutely need portability get a desktop. Gaming and laptops just equals heat and atrocious battery performance along with a bloated price tag. Better off getting a lower end laptop for travel and have a desktop at home imo.

100% this. So-called "gaming" laptops either have stupidly underpowered cooling systems, meaning the CPU and/or GPU constantly perform at way lower than the claimed specs; or, their cooling systems are actually capable of allowing the components to perform at their claimed speed... making the laptop so large and heavy it might as well be a desktop.

DeathtoGnomes · Mar 5, 2023

Pivo187 said:
Bump anyone?

The one on the left.

MSI gets my vote, read a couple reviews, that will tell more.

Pivo187 · Mar 6, 2023

I thought msi had the worst build quality out of the bunch?

Space Lynx · Mar 6, 2023

Pivo187 said:
Currently cane across this: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-r...cie-4-0-ssd-off-black/6494637.p?skuId=6494637

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-r...07gFnO3IYFxE0NE5cOUaAu8-EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-sw...ssd-16gb-memory-white/6511433.p?skuId=6511433

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/alienw...dark-side-of-the-moon/6510330.p?skuId=6510330
Also the alien ware bc it can output to hdmi 2.1. Planning to get the LG c2 TV for when I'm not on the go.
Is this the best for the price?
Thinking amd might be better for less heat? Also the Alienware one is 2099 everywhere else

Anyone alive around here?!

there is a gigabyte rtx 4060 laptop on best buy for $1099 and is showing in stock. that would probably be what I would I get if I was in the market for one.

Pivo187 · Mar 6, 2023

Space Lynx said:
there is a gigabyte rtx 4060 laptop on best buy for $1099 and is showing in stock. that would probably be what I would I get if I was in the market for one.

Its only 8 gig memory...

pavle · Mar 6, 2023

Pivo187 said:
Its only 8 gig memory...

Let nvidia worry about that, if they put that amount of RAM on the most price/performance GPU, they'll have to support their decision (or screw their customers again).

SalemTheKit · Mar 6, 2023

Honestly, I don't think the TPU forums are the best place to ask since there's very few of us who use gaming laptops or even do a ton of research into them. I do agree with a couple of the others that building your own desktop would be the best if you're not gonna move around a lot and you'll get a lot more performance for the price.

That being said, I noticed you had multiple laptops at very different price points so I was curious if you were just trying to find a good gaming laptop at any price or if there's sales going on at your local best buy that aren't showing up for me. Either way, if you wanted an easy way to compare and research gaming laptops then I highly recommend the youtube channel Jarrod's Tech. He's become a pretty fantastic resource in regards to gaming laptop research and has helped change the review landscape for the better. If you just want a list of good ones you can check his video on the top 5 best/worst gaming laptops and if you want to start researching the options around you then you can check out his 2022 gaming laptop tier list which should cover all your local options.

Also, depending on what you play, you'd also want to look into the different GPUs available in each of these and thankfully that channel covers those as well.

Pivo187 · Mar 6, 2023

pavle said:
Let nvidia worry about that, if they put that amount of RAM on the most price/performance GPU, they'll have to support their decision (or screw their customers again).

Not the gpu the actual system memory is 8gb...that's not enough on the 4060 laptop from giga

SalemTheKit said:
Honestly, I don't think the TPU forums are the best place to ask since there's very few of us who use gaming laptops or even do a ton of research into them. I do agree with a couple of the others that building your own desktop would be the best if you're not gonna move around a lot and you'll get a lot more performance for the price.

That being said, I noticed you had multiple laptops at very different price points so I was curious if you were just trying to find a good gaming laptop at any price or if there's sales going on at your local best buy that aren't showing up for me. Either way, if you wanted an easy way to compare and research gaming laptops then I highly recommend the youtube channel Jarrod's Tech. He's become a pretty fantastic resource in regards to gaming laptop research and has helped change the review landscape for the better. If you just want a list of good ones you can check his video on the top 5 best/worst gaming laptops and if you want to start researching the options around you then you can check out his 2022 gaming laptop tier list which should cover all your local options.

Also, depending on what you play, you'd also want to look into the different GPUs available in each of these and thankfully that channel covers those as well.

I want a laptop I can use at work and hook it up to a TV and also one I can use for travel on planes and vacation...I already own a powerful desktop for home use... I will check out the links you provided.

P4-630 · Mar 6, 2023

Pivo187 said:
Not the gpu the actual system memory is 8gb...that's not enough

Should be upgradable?
Check it, system memory is affordable.

If there's one stick, buy another for dual channel.

bonehead123 · Mar 6, 2023

Pivo187 said:
I want a laptop I can use at work

So you play games @work ? must be nice

Cause your thread title says "gaming lappy", so which is it ?

Also of note, using a personal machine for work is a VERY, VERY bad idea... for a number of reasons.....

Anyways, my son recently bought that ASUS machine with a 3080, and I loaded it up with 32GB of ram, which does really well on all of his games as well as his everyday stuff like school work and such, but I would NOT recommend MSI, based on my experiences with their low build quality and flaky support....or Alienzware due to their over-pricing....

SalemTheKit · Mar 6, 2023

Pivo187 said:
Not the gpu the actual system memory is 8gb...that's not enough on the 4060 laptop from giga

I want a laptop I can use at work and hook it up to a TV and also one I can use for travel on planes and vacation...I already own a powerful desktop for home use... I will check out the links you provided.

Gotcha, that makes a lot more sense then. In that case you should look into the thinner/more portable gaming laptops like those in the 13/14 inch class. Though, I will second what a lot of other people are saying here in that you should DEFINITELY get a work-only laptop in addition to your gaming laptop. There's some cheap ones out there like the ideapad 3 that get somewhat good reviews and are more than powerful enough for most work tasks.

Gasaraki · Mar 6, 2023

Let's just say I didn't like my ASUS gaming laptop I got a few years ago.

Paganstomp · Mar 6, 2023

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I have the RTX 3060 G5 KC. Pic is what the underneath expansion looks like. Not sure if the KF is the same. Seems like it's missing the SATA 2.5 bay port from the documentation. They don't seem to have a download for the manual.

Pivo187 · Mar 6, 2023

I run my own business and work on a boat offshore. I can be out for months at a time with lots of downtime. Please stop saying get a desktop there is no room for that plus I want to be able to use it on vacation and plane travel. I want a quality laptop wit and would like to stick with 15 inch and amd some since read it runs much cooler

Space Lynx · Mar 6, 2023

Pivo187 said:
Its only 8 gig memory...

its only $20 to buy an extra stick of 8 gig memory... and its really easy to install it on that laptop. just remove the screws from the back, no wires to disconnect or anything like some laptops, that laptop I linked is very upgrade friendly.

A&P211 · Mar 6, 2023

SalemTheKit said:
Honestly, I don't think the TPU forums are the best place to ask since there's very few of us who use gaming laptops or even do a ton of research into them. I do agree with a couple of the others that building your own desktop would be the best if you're not gonna move around a lot and you'll get a lot more performance for the price.

That being said, I noticed you had multiple laptops at very different price points so I was curious if you were just trying to find a good gaming laptop at any price or if there's sales going on at your local best buy that aren't showing up for me. Either way, if you wanted an easy way to compare and research gaming laptops then I highly recommend the youtube channel Jarrod's Tech. He's become a pretty fantastic resource in regards to gaming laptop research and has helped change the review landscape for the better. If you just want a list of good ones you can check his video on the top 5 best/worst gaming laptops and if you want to start researching the options around you then you can check out his 2022 gaming laptop tier list which should cover all your local options.

Also, depending on what you play, you'd also want to look into the different GPUs available in each of these and thankfully that channel covers those as well.

TPU is not the best place to ask about laptops, most people on here will say "gaming" laptops are not good at gaming. The forum notebook review shut down sometime last year. Those where the forums to ask about anything laptop related. I miss it.

Here is my comment on which laptop, I would go with the MSI. Both of the Asus laptops are good, I've tried out the Asus Zephyrus 15 for 2 weeks, good laptop, but the gpu is only powered upto 80w, and but its priced higher than the rest.

I would never get an Alienware, you are just paying more money for the name "alienware", and I believe the Ram memory is soldered onto the motherboard, so you cant upgrade that. Overpriced piece of junk.

The MSI, my son has a similar model, the gpu will power upto 105w, decent cooling, but not wonderful like their GP or GE models, I have the GE model, but good enough. And you can go into their advanced bios and undervolt the processor for a slight performance boost, not overclocking but boost, since the processor is producing less heat so its able to maintain higher speeds for the same heat output. The price is the cheapest for what you are getting out of all 4.

But this MSI model has a 4060 and still good specs. I dont know anything about this model laptop.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-15-6-fhd-laptop-intel-i5-12500h-8gb-ddr4-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-512gb-ssd/6537013.p?skuId=6537013

Pivo187 · Mar 7, 2023

A&P211 said:
TPU is not the best place to ask about laptops, most people on here will say "gaming" laptops are not good at gaming. The forum notebook review shut down sometime last year. Those where the forums to ask about anything laptop related. I miss it.

Here is my comment on which laptop, I would go with the MSI. Both of the Asus laptops are good, I've tried out the Asus Zephyrus 15 for 2 weeks, good laptop, but the gpu is only powered upto 80w, and but its priced higher than the rest.

I would never get an Alienware, you are just paying more money for the name "alienware", and I believe the Ram memory is soldered onto the motherboard, so you cant upgrade that. Overpriced piece of junk.

The MSI, my son has a similar model, the gpu will power upto 105w, decent cooling, but not wonderful like their GP or GE models, I have the GE model, but good enough. And you can go into their advanced bios and undervolt the processor for a slight performance boost, not overclocking but boost, since the processor is producing less heat so its able to maintain higher speeds for the same heat output. The price is the cheapest for what you are getting out of all 4.

But this MSI model has a 4060 and still good specs. I dont know anything about this model laptop.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-15-6-fhd-laptop-intel-i5-12500h-8gb-ddr4-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-512gb-ssd/6537013.p?skuId=6537013

Which msi model are you saying is the best to go with?

A&P211 · Mar 7, 2023

Pivo187 said:
Which msi model are you saying is the best to go with?

You only have 1 MSI laptop listed,

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-sword-15-6-144hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i7-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070ti-1tb-ssd-16gb-memory-white/6511433.p?skuId=6511433

I would go with that, its also the cheapest.

Pivo187 · Mar 7, 2023

A&P211 said:
You only have 1 MSI laptop listed,

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-sword-15-6-144hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i7-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070ti-1tb-ssd-16gb-memory-white/6511433.p?skuId=6511433
I would go with that, its also the cheapest.

Cheap doesn't always mean best lol I want the best bang for your money!

P4-630 · Mar 7, 2023

Look for reviews and compare.

crlogic · Mar 7, 2023

I'd recommend looking into Lenovo's Legion line of gaming laptops. I've worked with a lot of gaming laptops and personally wouldn't consider anything but a Legion, they're fantasic

A&P211 · Mar 7, 2023

Pivo187 said:
Cheap doesn't always mean best lol I want the best bang for your money!

Whats your budget, you never mentioned any kind of budget. You only posted links to a bestbuy store and asked what's better. Do you only want to buy the laptop from bestbuy or can it be another store. You didnt provide much info.

The links you provided, the price difference is rather large, from $1200 (on sale) to $2200. Thats rather a large price difference.
And cheap sometimes does mean better, I've picked up my current laptop because it was cheap and had 2 small dents on the lip. The seller sold it really cheaply, but he didnt know anything about laptops, good thing I do. The only thing I upgraded was the ram and SSDs.

If you like the Alienware, go buy it. Have fun with it.

crlogic said:
I'd recommend looking into Lenovo's Legion line of gaming laptops. I've worked with a lot of gaming laptops and personally wouldn't consider anything but a Legion, they're fantasic

I've heard they are good, I was looking for one until I found my current one, coundn't pass it up.

Processor	Amd 5800x
Motherboard	MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI Motherboard
Cooling	Corsair h100i
Memory	32gb
Video Card(s)	3070ti
Storage	Nve, SSD,
Display(s)	27 inch
Power Supply	850 watt

Processor	Amd 5800x
Motherboard	MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI Motherboard
Cooling	Corsair h100i
Memory	32gb
Video Card(s)	3070ti
Storage	Nve, SSD,
Display(s)	27 inch
Power Supply	850 watt

System Name	[Daily Driver]
Processor	[Ryzen 7 5800X3D]
Motherboard	[MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK]
Cooling	[be quiet! Dark Rock Slim]
Memory	[64GB Crucial Pro 3200MHz (32GBx2)]
Video Card(s)	[PNY RTX 3070Ti XLR8]
Storage	[1TB SN850 NVMe, 4TB 990 Pro NVMe, 2TB 870 EVO SSD, 2TB SA510 SSD]
Display(s)	[2x 27" HP X27q at 1440p]
Case	[Fractal Meshify-C]
Audio Device(s)	[Fanmusic TRUTHEAR IEM, HyperX Duocast]
Power Supply	[CORSAIR RMx 1000]
Mouse	[Logitech G Pro Wireless]
Keyboard	[Logitech G512 Carbon (GX-Brown)]
Software	[Windows 11 64-Bit]

System Name	Firelance.
Processor	Threadripper 3960X
Motherboard	ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming
Cooling	IceGem 360 + 6x Arctic Cooling P12
Memory	8x 16GB Patriot Viper DDR4-3200 CL16
Video Card(s)	MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2X OC
Storage	2TB WD SN850X (boot), 4TB Crucial P3 (data)
Display(s)	Dell S3221QS(A) (32" 38x21 60Hz) + 2x AOC Q32E2N (32" 25x14 75Hz)
Case	Enthoo Pro II Server Edition (Closed Panel) + 6 fans
Power Supply	Fractal Design Ion+ 2 Platinum 760W
Mouse	Logitech G604
Keyboard	Razer Pro Type Ultra
Software	Windows 10 Professional x64

System Name	Dumbass
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard	ASUS TUF gaming B650
Cooling	Artic Liquid Freezer 2 - 420mm
Memory	G.Skill Sniper 32gb DDR5 6000
Video Card(s)	GreenTeam 4070 ti super 16gb
Storage	Samsung EVO 500gb & 1Tb, 2tb HDD, 500gb WD Black
Display(s)	1x Nixeus NX_EDG27, 2x Dell S2440L (16:9)
Case	Phanteks Enthoo Primo w/8 140mm SP Fans
Audio Device(s)	onboard (realtek?) - SPKRS:Logitech Z623 200w 2.1
Power Supply	Corsair HX1000i
Mouse	Steeseries Esports Wireless
Keyboard	Corsair K100
Software	windows 10 H
Benchmark Scores	https://i.imgur.com/aoz3vWY.jpg?2

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bonehead123

SalemTheKit

Gasaraki

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Processor	7800X3D -25 all core
Motherboard	B650 Steel Legend
Cooling	Frost Commander 140
Memory	32gb ddr5 (2x16) cl 30 6000
Video Card(s)	Merc 310 7900 XT @3100 core -.75v
Display(s)	Agon 27" QD-OLED Glossy 240hz 1440p
Case	NZXT H710
Power Supply	Corsair RM850x

System Name	Hopes, dreams, donated parts, and electrical tape
Processor	Ryzen R5 3600
Motherboard	Asrock B450m Pro4
Cooling	Stock Cooler
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 32gb 3200 CL16
Video Card(s)	PowerColor Fighter 6500XT (Running at pcie 2.0...)
Storage	Western Digital 2TB Black HDD, Samsung 870 Evo 512GB
Display(s)	Asus VA something or other
Case	Cougar MX331 MESH-X
Power Supply	Corsair CX550m
Mouse	Rosewill ION D10
Keyboard	Corsair K70 (The old one)
VR HMD	$4 Garage Sale Phone Holder and AprilTags

System Name	AlderLake
Processor	Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master
Cooling	Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans
Memory	32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36
Video Card(s)	MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio
Storage	Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2
Display(s)	23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p
Case	Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window
Audio Device(s)	Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533
Power Supply	Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W
Mouse	Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless
Keyboard	RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless
Software	Windows 11
Benchmark Scores	Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock

System Name	The Little One
Processor	i5-11320H @4.4GHZ
Motherboard	Beelink/AZW SEI
Cooling	Fan w/heat pipes + side & rear vents
Memory	64GB Crucial DDR4-3200 (2x 32GB)
Video Card(s)	Iris XE
Storage	WD Black SN850X 8TB m.2, Seagate 4TB SSD + SN850 8TB x2 in an external enclosure
Display(s)	2x Samsung 43" + 1x 32"
Case	Practically identical to a mac mini, just purrtier in slate blue, & with 3x usb ports on the front !
Audio Device(s)	No-name compact bluetooth speakers
Power Supply	65w brick
Mouse	Logitech MX Master 3
Keyboard	Logitech G613 mechanical wireless
VR HMD	Whahdatiz ???
Software	Windows 10 pro, with all the unnecessary background shitzu turned OFF !
Benchmark Scores	PDQ

System Name	Unimatrix
Processor	Intel i9-9900K @ 5.0GHz
Motherboard	ASRock x390 Taichi Ultimate
Cooling	Custom Loop
Memory	32GB GSkill TridentZ RGB DDR4 @ 3400MHz 14-14-14-32
Video Card(s)	EVGA 2080 with Heatkiller Water Block
Storage	2x Samsung 960 Pro 512GB M.2 SSD in RAID 0, 1x WD Blue 1TB M.2 SSD
Display(s)	Alienware 34" Ultrawide 3440x1440
Case	CoolerMaster P500M Mesh
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
Keyboard	Corsair K75
Benchmark Scores	Really Really High

System Name	The Final Straw - Part II
Processor	Ryzen 5 4500
Motherboard	ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4/ac
Cooling	Arctic Liquid Freezer II 120
Memory	G.Skill 16GB DDR4 3200 F4-3200C16D-16GVKB
Video Card(s)	EVGA GTX 1660 Super SC Ultra 6GB GDDR6
Storage	Crucial 1TB P3 NVMe + WD 2TB Black SN850X NVME + PNY 2TB CS900 SATA
Display(s)	Acer VG270U P 2k
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C
Audio Device(s)	HDMI / SPDIF
Power Supply	ASRock Challenger CL-850G
Mouse	Logitech M510
Keyboard	Logitech K270
VR HMD	Why?
Software	Windows 10 / 11
Benchmark Scores	Currently N/A

System Name	Lenovo slim 5 16'
Processor	AMD 8845hs
Motherboard	Lenovo motherboard
Cooling	2 fans
Memory	64gb 5600mhz cl40
Video Card(s)	4070 laptop
Storage	16tb, x2 8tb SSD
Display(s)	16in 16:10 (1920x1200) 144hz
Power Supply	230w psu

System Name	Desktop + SteamDeck OLED
Processor	i7-10700K @ -0.130mV offset
Motherboard	MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Edge WiFi
Cooling	be quiet! Pure Loop 280mm
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB 3200MT/s CL16
Video Card(s)	RTX 3080 Ti Founders Edition @ 1830MHz, 800mV

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