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Help: Strong PC, Low performance, First build

A_Heckwan

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First off, I don't know much about building PC's
I spent hours going through Youtube videos on building a PC.
Finally managed to put it together and it works. Windows and software are already installed and good.
I should be blasting through games and applications with the rig, but it stutters alot and gives me low FPS on many games including Skyrim, and VR games.
I tried many different things suggested but it doesn't help much. My only thought right now is maybe the PSU isn't giving enough wattage?
It's like the processor isn't doing a good job, maybe there's a defective part? Would be my luck.
I'm pretty sure all the necessary drivers are installed.

Parts list:
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB Video Card

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor 16 Threads

MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard

G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory

G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory

Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case

SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer

KINGWIN KW525-7U3C 7 USB 3.0 Port Hub For 5.25” Include 1 IQ Charging
 
Tweak your ram, monitor temps.

Have fun
 
Find the Zen Garden Here too
 
Can't say i'm a fan of AMD's CPUs as they apparently have weak silicon and aren't really fully 7nm, have a 14nm IO die and 'chiplets'.. Funny really when Intel do that or add cores, everyone whines.. But for such a machine that's a bit strange dude..

First off you've installed all the latest drivers and updates, right? And second, you don't mention a CPU cooler...you did use a good one yes? And thermal paste of course? That PSU -should- be fine if it has a strong 12V rail.. However if it has dual or more rails it may be an idea to check your wiring and make sure you don't have everything sat on just one. Haven't looked up the PSU but it should tell you on the box or the PSU its self.. Have a look at voltage/power/current ratings, might as well eliminate it.. But it sounds more like some kind of thermal issue to be honest. I'm assuming you installed Windows to your SATA SSD, are installing games to the 1TB M.2 SSD and using the HDD for less played games/data storage?

I thought i had an account but just registered to try and help out.. Your PC is on par with if not a tad better than mine in some respects, though i do have faster drives, bigger PSU and its nVidia/Intel based lol hmm.. I have an AIO cooler on the CPU at the moment.. You're not using a stock cooler or something? I'd check the mounting of it too, could not have enough pressure.. And as i said you didn't mention any!
 
Can't say i'm a fan of AMD's CPUs as they apparently have weak silicon and aren't really fully 7nm, have a 14nm IO die and 'chiplets'.. Funny really when Intel do that or add cores, everyone whines.. But for such a machine that's a bit strange dude..

First off you've installed all the latest drivers and updates, right? And second, you don't mention a CPU cooler...you did use a good one yes? And thermal paste of course? That PSU -should- be fine if it has a strong 12V rail.. However if it has dual or more rails it may be an idea to check your wiring and make sure you don't have everything sat on just one. Haven't looked up the PSU but it should tell you on the box or the PSU its self.. Have a look at voltage/power/current ratings, might as well eliminate it.. But it sounds more like some kind of thermal issue to be honest. I'm assuming you installed Windows to your SATA SSD, are installing games to the 1TB M.2 SSD and using the HDD for less played games/data storage?

I thought i had an account but just registered to try and help out.. Your PC is on par with if not a tad better than mine in some respects, though i do have faster drives, bigger PSU and its nVidia/Intel based lol hmm.. I have an AIO cooler on the CPU at the moment.. You're not using a stock cooler or something? I'd check the mounting of it too, could not have enough pressure.. And as i said you didn't mention any!

You should keep this pro-Intel nonsense to yourself. The setup is perfect and so is the PSU. The problem says somewhere else.
 
Have you installed the motherboard chipset drivers? this is the first thing you should install upon turning it on for the first time, you will have a CD with the motherboard or you can go to the motherboard support page and download them from there, this is my preferred option as they will be the latest up to date drivers. Then go to nvidia.com and download the right drivers for your RTX 2080, install and you should be good to go. If you have done this, try reseating the GPU, ie: pull it out and put it back in. Make sure the pcie cables are inserted fully. and double check all other cables including the ATX 24pin, CPU 4/8pin, ensure RAM is seated fully.

If you're sure all of this has been done, then try a GPU driver reinstall, download DDU to remove all nvidia drivers from your system, download the newest ones from the website and reinstall them. if your still getting choppy framerate, monitor whats going on with both your GPU and CPU with something like afterburner/GPU-Z when you're playing a game to see whats going on
 
That is normal because CPUz is benchmarking the CPU.
What scores did you get ?

Here are mine (see my system specs under my avatar):
3700x-3733-RAM.jpg



I would make sure you have the latest Nvidia drivers installed:

And the latest AMD chipset drivers:

And the newest BIOS flashed:

And check the Memory Tab on CPUz and make sure it says your RAM is in Dual channel mode and running at 1800 Mhz (2 x 1800 = 3600).

Because with your rig, you should be getting Very High FPS on pretty much every game.
I have a 3700x and 2060 Super and I get 100+ fps on new AAA games and 200+ fps on older games on Very High/Ultra settings.
 
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Ran CPU-Z, hit Bench and from 1% it shot up to 99%
Gpuz not cpuz, as it will log all of the information from your graphics card whilst you are running a game

GPUZ.PNG
 
Remove the hdd for now.
 
Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Which drive is your OS drive? and which drive are you storing your installed games?
 
Just to throw something different into the ring, unplug the USB 3 Hub and try again, there has been cases where they have slowed systems down and caused what appears to be lag.
 
Just to throw something different into the ring, unplug the USB 3 Hub and try again, there has been cases where they have slowed systems down and caused what appears to be lag.

Yup cheap controllers
 
That power supply should provide more than you could possibly need! I would start with the updating the motherboard to the latest BIOS. Then move on to drivers in the same way. Everything from the motherboard vendor, then get the video drivers directly from Nvidia.

Some people mentioned disconnecting the extras, that's also a good idea. Setup just the basics, boot drive, power, half the RAM and the video card. Install just one of the games you are having issues with on the boot drive.
 
if you do a fresh install of windows, unplug all other drives except c:/ until its done installing and updating.
 
Definitely check your ram because if you don't set the settings manually or turn on xmp then your ram will run really slow. The ram running at jedec is likely not causing the issue by itself but it is definitely a good place to start.

After that, you need to play some games while logging data such as usage and temps for both the CPU and GPU to see where to go next.
 
You should keep this pro-Intel nonsense to yourself. The setup is perfect and so is the PSU. The problem says somewhere else.
Pro-Intel nonsense? It's merely stating fact.. I'm hardly a 'fangirl' although i saved up and saw the Intel light about 10 years ago, before that i had nothing but AMD, ever since i built my own PC when upgrading from a Pentium 2 lol Athlon Thunderbird 1.2GHz! Socket A of course.. I have a ton of different hardware here, even some Cyrix, IBM, IDT chips, Motorola 68K series, PPC.. I just like my CPUs to last longer than a few...years or months without damaging themselves ;) Hell my original Phenom 9850 BE cost me £700 new (with board and RAM), had to have it as oooh "native quad core" and "integrated memory controller" and "Intel FSB bottlenecks"...yet it was awful, hot, never overclocked well and had a TLB bug.. When i picked up a Core 2 Quad cheap to play with years later, even though it wasn't as high end a board used etc, it beat that thing by miles and wouldn't have cost me as much! Haha.. I was a little wild back then though, upgrading a little bit whatever i could every 6 months or something.. In the space of a year when i was a young teen i went from a TNT2 Ultra to a GeForce 2MX to a GF3 Ti200 within a year or so! Set records with that GF3 though.. I even lapped the GPU, Heatsink and RAM, attached custom cooling and had the core at 240MHz, the RAM at 555MHz.. How sad is it that i can still remember that? But it beat the Ti 500 and the price had dropped to £125 back then, when the original GF3 was about £250 not a few months before.. Then after being disappointed by a Ti 4600, i got a 9700 Pro so i could play Max Payne 2 with Mirror reflections in DX9.. Stayed with Radeon right up until i had a 290X that was fast but died on me, partly MSI's fault..got a GTX 970! I...think i need a life. Or a Husband...or both? AMD has ripped fans off for years though, ever since they purchased ATi, which really upset me.. Those that say Intel do that, well...they're both massive corporations that want to sell you things, except Intel seem to help people/charities more.. So aren't they really just two sides of the same coin anyway? Haha..

My other claim to fame is overclocking a Toaster... No sarcasm here, i used a transformer to almost double mains voltage, giving it about 400VAC.. Sure turned bread into toast quick! Even survived a few rounds before it popped.. Photonic Induction did it better though! xD

Hope the OP got these problems sorted! Must have done as its rather quiet on that front.
 
Did you enable silent mode on the fans in MSI Dragon Center.

It caps the Max CPU speed to keep temps down. I ran into this issue on my MPG X570.

Once set back to balanced the PC shot up to over average on performance.
 
I hate to necro the thread but I highly suspect the "KINGWIN KW525-7U3C 7 USB 3.0 Port Hub For 5.25” Include 1 IQ Charging" the OP mentioned is a serious problem.

I just got two of these recently for my towers and it seems when you supply the auxiliary power there is something wrong there. I found the following reddit post that describes the situation. I don't know how to verify that post but I can say when I was supplying the aux power to the unit suddenly my SSD tray light turned on and my machine refused to post 99% of the time so there is definitely some electrical problem with this unit from the factory. I spent 60-ish dollars (for both) on this malfunctioning junk and I'm pissed. Hopefully I didn't damage my motherboard or SSD or PSU. Buyer beware!


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I found a similar Amazon post with a picture of the PCB. Mine is nearly identical but the component on mine is SS24 not SS34.

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