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Help with DFI Lan Party NF4 UT-D

arrgg. cleared cmos and was able to see that option again, but it couldnt detect the hd
 
Kid I don't want to sound rude but....you are obviously inexperienced with this so why the hell would you pick the most complicated brand of motherboard to start out with?

I don't mind helping you out but I would really suggest that you do more reading on computers before you build anything!
 
Brother i sent u a PM as i didnt want to jump this thread!
 
well i didnt know that it was the most complicated mb. should i rma it and get an asus?
 
casums said:
arrgg. cleared cmos and was able to see that option again, but it couldnt detect the hd
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Hey turn the computer off and unplug it from the wall and after 15minutes go back to you're computer and hold the power button down for 2 minutes to drain the remaining juice in the compassitors then open up you're case and place the cmos jumper in the clear position and remove the battery and leave it alone for a couple of hours!

When you come back to you're computer reverse the process that you just did and make sure that you put the battery in the right way and put the jumper back too the normal position ....Now while you're computer is off check all of you're connections and make sure that they are hooked up properly ...also add another hard drive into you're system ( the Pata one) and make sure that is hooked up correctly with the molex power connector going into the back of it and the IDE cable and change the sata cable to another sata port on the motherboard...ok???

If you have a ps2 keyboard use that and as it boots up hold the insert key then go into bios load optimized defaults ...save and exit then boot
 
ok thanks will do
 
casums said:
well i didnt know that it was the most complicated mb. should i rma it and get an asus?
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YES ASUS is more of a plug and play Motherboard but.....just like any other motherboard YOU MUST RESEARCH HARDWARE AND COMPONENT COMPATIBILITY BEFORE YOU BUILD ANYTHING!!!
 
arrggg i did what you said and it did not recognize the hd. am i doing something completely wrong here? someone help. is it possible that the harddrive is bad?:rolleyes: :cry:
 
Did you put the Pata Hard Drive in like I told you too do?
 
Yeah casums...I think it's going to take a bit of reading to figure this one out. And ur not even to the point where you are gonna start overclocking this thing. I'll read some stuff on it too and try and help you out tomorrow. I can bring the PATA drive too.

Sounds like BIOS Flashing wouldn't help.

Thanks to all for the good advice Esau.

Be patient, or RMA for "plug & play"!
 
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alright thanks eklock but ill be out til around 11
 
If I were you I would recommend that you ditch that Power Supply and get a Silverstone Strider ST60F 600 w Power Supply or a OCZ GameXtreme700w P.S.U

P.S You should never skimp on a good power supply because you're system components as well as system stability rely on a good psu to keep things working properly! A bad abnd inexpensive Power Supply can lead too damaged hardware, system instability and memory errors and it can even kill you're components in the process too!!
 
eklock2000 said:
Yeah casums...I think it's going to take a bit of reading to figure this one out. And ur not even to the point where you are gonna start overclocking this thing. I'll read some stuff on it too and try and help you out tomorrow. I can bring the PATA drive too.

Sounds like BIOS Flashing wouldn't help.

Thanks to all for the good advice Esau.

Be patient, or RMA for "plug & play"!
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Please......DO NOT enchourage him to overclock thats the last thing he should be doing or thinking about!

First learn about what you have and the proper memory timings at stock (notice I said stock timings} Because setting wrong values in bios for someone that did not think it was necessary to have a power lead coming into the back of his hard drive (sigh) is a friggin train wreck waiting too happen!!!

Sniff...Sniff...Do I smell Smoke?
 
when the board boots, does your hard drive spin up.
if it does then when u get to the post screen hit the "ESC" key ...or which ever one for... boot selection
and select the sata drive.
also try different sata plugs.


Dfi nforce3 boards doen't like running one sata drive and would try to boot from a ide drive.

cmos clearing should take seconds not hours.
 
Yea but I think he was doing this stuff while the power was hooked up though!
And there is that phenomenon of the longer clear cmos deal too and it does work how I don't know but it does!

Obviously you did not read the thread he did not think it was good to have the power lead plugged into the hard drive because it might damage the drive.
 
no i thought u didnt need both power cables plugged in
 
if the dfi motherboard is to complicated, what specific sli nf4 socket 939 mb do you recommend if i were to rma this one and get a new one
 
Brother Esau said:
Please......DO NOT enchourage him to overclock thats the last thing he should be doing or thinking about!

First learn about what you have and the proper memory timings at stock (notice I said stock timings} Because setting wrong values in bios for someone that did not think it was necessary to have a power lead coming into the back of his hard drive (sigh) is a friggin train wreck waiting too happen!!!

Sniff...Sniff...Do I smell Smoke?
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I'm not...just saying that MORE problems may occur if he gets to that point, right? I mean, that's the purpose of this board...it's made for overclocking? Also, I don't think Casums has considered that he will likely need more than stock cooling (water?) if he wants to go there? I am just very interested in helping him get the thing off the ground.

Would flashing the BIOS help? The link to the other forum had this info in one thread...

Early Boards May Be A Problem

In cruising around DFI-Street.com, there are several threads about "early" boards and some kind of issue...

There is evidently 3 revs floating around:

R.A00
R.A01
R.A02


Supposedly, the R.A00 was only distributed in Europe and the others in the USA...

And supposedly the only difference is the BIOS...

There was a 1/19/05 and a 1/25/05 BIOS.... Reading thru the threads, it appears that the 2/1/05 BIOS is the one that fixes all issues, whatever they may be.... Also there may be a problem in trying to flash the BIOS with one of the old BIOS's in the board.... More when my board arrives..

2/1/05 Beta BIOS:
http://www.lejabeach.com/DFI/dfinf4ultra/NF4LD201.zip

2/9/05 Beta BIOS

http://www.lejabeach.com/DFI/dfinf4ultra/N24LD209.rar

My board arrived sporting the R.A02 sticker and it has the 1/25/05 BIOS installed...

The recommendation is to flash to one of the Beta BIOS's right away...

10/20/05 Edit: Latest board I received has R.AD0 on the sticker, and has the Official 623 BIOS...

eklock2000...out!
 
1. It sounds like it could be a BIOS issue, update your BIOS to 623.
2. You dont need to leave your comp for 15 mins, just unplug it, press power button 2-3 times to discharge the capacitors (though, this is only required if you try to turn your PC on, and all fans etc spin up briefly, then the system just shuts off), and if so desired, remove the CMOS battery for 2 mins to reset your BIOS.
 
Listen guys I am not doubting anyones ability, I am just stating fact its a process and you need too crawl before you can walk and I am sure that in time he will do just fine..but first things first!

Did you put the PATA drive in and see if that is recognized or have you tried a different sata drive?

Do stuff like this before flashing the bios and if none of that does not work well.....move onto flashing a (official) bios . DO NOT FLASH TO A MODDED BIOS because if the board is defective and you send it back with a modded bios you will void the warrenty and YOU ARE BEAT!!!
 
Its standard good practice to flash a mainboard with the latest BIOS first to eliminate potential BIOS bugs. Reading further just enforces what I said anyway by what eklock2000 posted. Flash the BIOS with 623.
 
So in the chance that it is deffective I would not recommend anything but Official release but the 6/23/06 on the dfi site is right but flashing you're bios is not the first thing you do and you should not recommend that before basic trouble shooting!
 
Just wanted to start by saying it's f'in cool that there is a forum to get help on this stuff and all of you are being super-patient with us noobs...

We did try the PATA on IDE2 with the SATA in as well. The BIOS did not autodetect either one. We didn't try IDE1 though and that is the only port we have been able to get anything recognized on...the DVD drive.

I am pretty hesitant to flash the BIOS. I've never done it and DFI website only has instructions for winflash in dos.

Since we don't even have the OS in yet, wouldn't you just copy the *.bin and autoexec.bat on a floppy and boot from that?

Also, DFI website says most recent is NF4LD406? Would you say most recent is best?
 
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