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help with undervolting 5800x3d

ok this is the last attempt at it take a look new paste remount close all asus programs fingers crossed
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Looking better now, 82 degrees.
 
Looking better now, 82 degrees.
so am i clear ? please tell i don't need a new cooler or that i have a bad cpu i had to really tighten the screws down not much though there is still maybe a round or two left should i tighten it more ? i don't remember doing that for the last 2 cpus i had this is not my first time building i'm a 42 this January i have more than 20 years of experience in building computers maybe i'm getting old but this is the first time i had to tighten the screws hard like this
btw this is the only cooler i found Noctua NH-D15S
 
According to AMD:

It is best to keep temperature at least in the low 80c at maximum loads if possible.

 
so am i clear ? please tell i don't need a new cooler or that i have a bad cpu i had to really tighten the screws down not much though there is still maybe a round or two left should i tighten it more ? i don't remember doing that for the last 2 cpus i had this is not my first time building i'm a 42 this January i have more than 20 years of experience in building computers maybe i'm getting old but this is the first time i had to tighten the screws hard like this
btw this is the only cooler i found Noctua NH-D15S
Yes that is a normal temp for a large air cooler like the d15. Did you end up uninstalling armory crate? Does pbo2 tuner load automatically now?
 
Yes that is a normal temp for a large air cooler like the d15. Did you end up uninstalling armory crate? Does pbo2 tuner load automatically now?
this is not the d15 it's still my 360 aio and i just for now exited all asus stuff from task manager and no i didn't add pbo2 to task scheduler
 
new windows installation nothing but drivers no asus soft at all and i can't say weather it's the same or worse after like 5 or 6 attempts iod reached 57 to 58 but the good news -if there is any- is that the cores never pushed passed 87 in any time i guess asus soft didn't have any effect at all btw no one told me if nh-d15s is a good cooler or not should i buy it or what?
any other test before connecting back my m.2 that has my games and my old os? i have to take out my gpu to that

ok last one no more i just don't care anymore
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Other than your cores not reaching 4550, it looks fine. Do you have voltage regulation settings like load line calibration on?

d15 is a great air cooler but you already have a 360 aio, cooling isn't the issue.
 
With which cooler?
Deepcool Assassin III

ok last one no more i just don't care anymore
It looks like your CPU isn't running full speed. You may have lowered the default PPT/TDC/EDC limits, which are 142/95/142 for the 5800X3D:

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Also, your case or radiator fans do not spin up under load. What did you plug into Chassis 1/2/3 connectors?
 
d15 is a great air cooler but you already have a 360 aio, cooling isn't the issue
will everyone suspects it's faulty since it doesn't do the job and I think I'm not reaching 4550 cause of bios i flashed back to 4006 don't know if i should flash 4201
btw no don't let that last pic fool you that test happened like 40 minutes after the one before it and the pc was off so i think it didn't reach equilibrium
What did you plug into Chassis 1/2/3 connectors?
it's case fans i lowered the speeds to test only the cpu coolers just to see how much air it will push didn't want to unplug them since it's a hassle but everything is connected really right as for the limits i may have lowered it i know i did to test more i did a ton of testing in the last 4 hours
 
will everyone suspects it's faulty since it doesn't do the job and I think I'm not reaching 4550 cause of bios i flashed back to 4006 don't know if i should flash 4201
btw no don't let that last pic fool you that test happened like 40 minutes after the one before it and the pc was off so i think it didn't reach equilibrium

it's case fans i lowered the speeds to test only the cpu coolers just to see how much air it will push didn't want to unplug them since it's a hassle but everything is connected really right as for the limits i may have lowered it i know i did to test more i did a ton of testing in the last 4 hours
Your last screen shot shows 4450mhz.. we'll a little bit under because of spread spectrum. So never ever a steady 100.00mhz bus frequency.

So maximum looks to be reached.

14k+ CB R23, looks good to me?

Is there a specific conundrum? Should this score be higher than average? Goal?
 
will everyone suspects it's faulty since it doesn't do the job and I think I'm not reaching 4550 cause of bios i flashed back to 4006 don't know if i should flash 4201
btw no don't let that last pic fool you that test happened like 40 minutes after the one before it and the pc was off so i think it didn't reach equilibrium

it's case fans i lowered the speeds to test only the cpu coolers just to see how much air it will push didn't want to unplug them since it's a hassle but everything is connected really right as for the limits i may have lowered it i know i did to test more i did a ton of testing in the last 4 hours

I don't know anyone running 4550MHz all-core on it with an unmodded BIOS or without BCLK. Single core occasionally, in benchmarks.

I'm not sure what you're after anymore. You said you didn't care about performance. The performance looks fine for 90W, it's the temps that don't really add up. They're looking a bit better now.

Reset your limits in PBO2 Tuner (leave CO alone) and see if you draw more power. If at 142/95/140 you land between 100-120W then it's pretty normal, and then you can stop trying to worry about 3 different things at the same time.
 
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I don't know anyone running 4550MHz all-core on it with an unmodded BIOS. Single core occasionally, in benchmarks.

I'm not sure what you're after anymore. You said you didn't care about performance. The performance looks fine for 90W, it's the temps that don't really add up. They're looking a bit better now.

Reset your limits in PBO2 Tuner (leave CO alone) and see if you draw more power. If at 142/95/140 you land between 100-120W then it's pretty normal, and then you can stop trying to worry about 3 different things at the same time.
no I'm not after performance at all just reasonable one with good temps whatever it is and survive next summer without needing to pay anymore that build cost me a lot any way i did what you said here are the result no limits were applied and co is 0 i still think it's bad temp but you know more than me about that cpu so tell me btw should i stay on 4006 or 4201?
 

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no I'm not after performance at all just reasonable one with good temps whatever it is and survive next summer without needing to pay anymore that build cost me a lot any way i did what you said here are the result no limits were applied and co is 0 i still think it's bad temp but you know more than me about that cpu so tell me btw should i stay on 4006 or 4201?

Weren't you already on 4201 and it didn't make a difference?

106W stock looks pretty normal, all things considered.

We already established like a page ago that probably the easiest way to figure this out is to use a different cooler and see. Not sure where all the indecision is coming from. Is it not possible to return purchases or something?

Either:
  • Your place is a lot hotter than you think it is
  • Something's up with the AIO
 
Weren't you already on 4201 and it didn't make a difference?
that's right i was just asking
We already established like a page ago that probably the easiest way to figure this out is to use a different cooler and see. Not sure where all the indecision is coming from. Is it not possible to return purchases or something?

Either:
  • Your place is a lot hotter than you think it is
  • Something's up with the AIO
yeah i'm still trying to find something good or fix the one i have how talked about returns anyway there is no such thing here unless it's completely dead in a day or two of you purchasing it not after a year and even then it will be a hassle the good news is it's not the cpu it's just that damn cooler i'm still trying to decide between these two
Noctua NH-D15S
thermalright fc140
both i will buy from us amazon cause they wouldn't sell it here unless i buy a full pc with it :banghead:
 
i'm still trying to decide between these two
Noctua NH-D15S
thermalright fc140
both i will buy from us amazon cause they wouldn't sell it here unless i buy a full pc with it :banghead:

I have both of those coolers. To me, with a CPU that's under 150w I see no practical difference. I'd choose whichever is less expensive, with maybe a slight advantage to the Thermalright because it includes a second fan over the single fan D15S.
 
it's case fans i lowered the speeds to test only the cpu cooler
Why on earth would you set all case fans to minimum? There's no point in testing CPU temperature when you've eliminated practically all air flow like that. Re-set your case fans so that they max out when the CPU reaches 70C. Zen 3 retains its maximum boost clock under 75C. Increase fan spin-up delay so they don't ramp up on momentary loads.
 
Why on earth would you set all case fans to minimum? There's no point in testing CPU temperature when you've eliminated practically all air flow like that. Re-set your case fans so that they max out when the CPU reaches 70C. Zen 3 retains its maximum boost clock under 75C. Increase fan spin-up delay so they don't ramp up on momentary loads.


the front fans are just stock cooler master 200mm fans and the back one is stock also 140mm it doesn't make a difference take a look

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That... is one hot CPU. 30c ambient shouldn't drive it into the 90s like that, my vote is something else is up, possibly with your AIO.
 
the front fans are just stock cooler master 200mm fans and the back one is stock also 140mm it doesn't make a difference take a look
Then it's either high room temperature (please verify with a cheap thermometer) or indeed the AIO has gone kaput. Or both. In any case you can lower your CPU idle temps by setting the power plan to balanced and the power slider to best energy savings:

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@Jacks.

if that's how it is, then if you can't find a Fuma 2 for a good price, I'd just get the D15. I don't know about Scythe, but Noctua has good warranty support wherever you are. Last year I got 3 defective L12 coolers off Amazon and sent an email to Noctua about it - they sent me a return label so they could take a look at the coolers, and sent me a replacement L12 straight from Austria via UPS Saver.

Even if you still end up using the AIO in the end, the D15'll be a stout cooler that you'll want to keep around. If a new socket comes out just ask them for an upgrade kit.

D15S performs a bit worse, but is still way more than enough for a 5800X3D, and less worries about RAM height.
 
Thanks for posting that I narrowed my AIO choice to the Artic freezer II 280 expensive (overpriced in local market) and the Lian Li galahad which is cheaper here.
Any other good AIO options for a 5800X ? Deepcool castle 280EX?
InWin SR36
 
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