Hi, I am seeking advice and/or constructive criticism on a build I am thinking of trying.

[MiguelElToro]

Hi all. Could I get someone to look over my parts list and tell me if 1, it fits my needs? 2. Can I bring the cost down without sacrificing longevity, speed, or power? 3. Am I being too ambitious? I need something I can trust and count on, and my current PC is not it. I’m not too computer build savvy, so I did a “best of” search for the parts and researched from there, based on my needs and budget. There is so much out there now that it all sounds the same.

I am not a gamer, but I would love to have the option to do so if I choose. I do music production. FL Studios mostly. I run a program in the background called display fusion that is on 24/7 and drains on my current pc to the point my fans sound like a truck. I also do a lot of writing, uploading, downloading, movie watching, and music streaming. I love to multitask.

I have 3 32in., and 1 75in flat-screen TVs, studio monitor speakers, desktop speakers, and 3 8tb external hard drives connected to my current pc.

Budget $5000.

Here is the parts list…

CORSAIR OBSIDIAN 500D RGB SE Mid-Tower Case.

GIGABYTE X570 AORUS Master Gaming Motherboard.

AMD Ryzen 9 3950X.

Corsair ICUE H150i PRO RGB XT liquid Cooler.

Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 64GB DDR4 3200 Memory.

Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB - M.2 NVMe Interface Internal SSD.

Samsung 860 Pro 2TB 2.5 in. SSD.

CORSAIR HX1000i, 1000-Watt, 80+ Platinum, Fully Modular, Digital Power Supply.

Gigabyte AORUS GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Xtreme Video Card.

ASUS Sound Card Essence STX II.

2 Corsair QL Series, 140mm, and 3 120mm RGB LED Fans.

Corsair K55 RGB Keyboard, MM800 Polaris RGB Mouse Pad, Dark Core RGB Pro Mouse.

Thanks, in advance.

 

[Fourstaff]

That is a lot of budget, especially on graphics card especially if you don't plan to play games. Unless the software you use can make use of graphics card compute? Overall I think there will be no compatibility issues.

 

[MiguelElToro]

That is a lot of budget, especially on graphics card especially if you don't plan to play games. Unless the software you use can make use of graphics card compute? Overall I think there will be no compatibility issues.

Thank you. I appreciate your time. I plan on getting into some serious video editing but I am new to it all, so I don't know yet. I think in my mind I'm thinking, It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Thanks again.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

The 500D SE runs pretty hot........ at least gpu wise cpu temps are fine with the radiator front mounted. My 2080 ti dropped 5C just from switching from it to an 011 dynamic XL

Looks nice though......



I ditched it for this and my temps are much better both cpu/gpu




My budget was similar to yours but I think I spent closer to $4000.




BTW QL and LL fans are pretty terrible but when you have six as intake and 4 as exhaust they're fine but on the 500D SE I had to do push/pull on the radiator to get decent temps with ML fans backing them up and ML in top as exhaust due to the fact that its really hard to push air through the top of the case due to how its designed.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Here is the parts list…

CORSAIR OBSIDIAN 500D RGB SE Mid-Tower Case. - define 7 or p600s are better cases.I gotta say that 500d looks fancy tho.

GIGABYTE X570 AORUS Master Gaming Motherboard. x570 tomahawk

AMD Ryzen 9 3950X. no need for it.3600 would do fine.whatever you get above 3600 is extra.imo either get a 3600 or 3900x.option one for value option two for performance

Corsair ICUE H150i PRO RGB XT liquid Cooler. there's better coolers and 360 is not really better than 280.imo get a liquid freezer 2 280 or deepcool 280ex

Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 64GB DDR4 3200 Memory. get patriot viper memory or thermaltake toughram for fancy

Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB - M.2 NVMe Interface Internal SSD. very good but expensive.will only be faster than budget nvme in fringe cases.look for mp510 or cs3030

Samsung 860 Pro 2TB 2.5 in. SSD. 860 evo

CORSAIR HX1000i, 1000-Watt, 80+ Platinum, Fully Modular, Digital Power Supply. 1000w ? nah. 650-850w is really all you need.IMO a get a rm750x/850x

Gigabyte AORUS GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Xtreme Video Card. for what I've seen in the OP you're better off picking 2080 Super or just the regular 2080

ASUS Sound Card Essence STX II.

2 Corsair QL Series, 140mm, and 3 120mm RGB LED Fans. expensive as hell.look for alpenfohns wingboost 3 series if possible

Corsair K55 RGB Keyboard, MM800 Polaris RGB Mouse Pad, Dark Core RGB Pro Mouse. - that's more about the looks.

 

[dgianstefani]

For music production and gaming you want single core. Neither of those need 16 cores.

Latency and DPC is also important for music production, and it's about 40% lower latency on Intel.

2080ti is a waste for your needs and with ampere around the corner doesn't make sense.

10900k
MSI Z490 ace.
64gb 3600/14 memory (any brand filter it on pc partpicker)
2080 super Aorus extreme.
2tb 970 evo plus x2
5x noctua NF-A12x25 - better than anything corsair has.
Nzxt x63 if you insist on water or noctua u12a.
Meshify C case.
Seasonic Prime TX 750
razer viper ultimate
Aorus optical keyboard.

You should also be using a good external sound card like the Schiit Hel rather than consumer grade internal ones.

 

[R0H1T]

40% lower latency on synthetic (?) memory tests, how does that translate to real world numbers in applications? I wouldn't recommend OCing any build which is used for "serious" work & when you're talking serious or professional work, with this build, any OC (on Intel) can go out of the window. FL Studio themselves have a YT channel with some of their own comparisons ~

FL STUDIO by Image-Line Software

You are watching the official FL STUDIO channel from Image-Line Software, developers of the application. Watch tutorials, artist videos and product releases....

www.youtube.com

 

[Chrispy_]

For video editing you want (in order of importance):

Lots of RAM bandwidth and lots of RAM
High capacity fast storage, ideally seperate from your OS and applications disk
A decent CPU, but the primary focus should be on lots of RAM bandwidth rather than raw performance
A GPU anything that's hardware accelerated, might as well get a Geforce 2060S since that'll do both OpenCL and CUDA.

With your budget of $5K I'd be tempted to look at threadripper and 128GB RAM across four channels but if this is your first stab at serious video editing I'd be tempted to get either a 9900K or a 3800X and see how you get on.

I edit 1080p120 and 4K60 all the time on a Ryzen 5 3600 with 32GB and the single biggest upgrade I had was moving from a SATA SSD to a 1TB PCIe 3.0 4x NVMe.
If I was rebuilding my rig on a budget I'd get a 3800X (best quality silicon for fastest RAM/Fclk speeds) and double my RAM again. The threadripper 1950X and 3950X machines at work can encode a bit faster but it doesn't scale as well as you'd think and encoding isn't the largest part of video editing.

Puget Systems have some good benchmarks for Premiere Pro and the 2060S and 3700X are the sweet spot. You can spend quadruple for higher-end builds and only see 20-30% gains, so I'd say pocket the spare money for now and use it to update the system in a few years. I also use a external DAC to drive my studio monitors because I have yet to find an analogue internal soundcard that doesn't pick up interference from inside the PC.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

With your budget of $5K I'd be tempted to look at threadripper and 128GB RAM across four channels but if this is your first stab at serious video editing I'd be tempted to get either a 9900K or a 3800X and see how you get on.

I'd go with a 10700k over a 9900k but otherwise I agree.

 

[dgianstefani]

40% lower latency on synthetic (?) memory tests, how does that translate to real world numbers in applications? I wouldn't recommend OCing any build which is used for "serious" work & when you're talking serious or professional work, with this build, any OC (on Intel) can go out of the window. FL Studio themselves have a YT channel with some of their own comparisons ~

FL STUDIO by Image-Line Software

You are watching the official FL STUDIO channel from Image-Line Software, developers of the application. Watch tutorials, artist videos and product releases....

www.youtube.com

Irrelevant. What matters is its lower latency with no downsides and will translate into better performance in some % or another.

Also noone here is talking about OC but you're probably still bringing it up since AMD has no OC potential and Intel does, so you have to find a reason to make it a bad idea.

 

[R0H1T]

How is it irrelevant? You're making it sound as if latency is the be all & end all metric here ~ which it certainly is not! Secondly I mentioned OC because you said music production & gaming, yes if gaming is your focus then OC & ST performance of Intel can make a sizable difference. Clock for clock though Zen 2 leads Intel, in case you didn't notice?

 

[dgianstefani]

I briefly mentioned latency as an important factor in audio, so stop trying to make this an issue. Intel wins in single core on its i5 10600k, which beats the 3950x stock in any game without OC while costing a third of the price. 10900k is 400mhz faster out of the box than 10600k again without oc and is 2/3 the price of 3950x.

Who cares if zen2 has slightly higher ipc when Intel is almost a gigahertz faster.

1% lows on Intel that are higher than AMDs average lol.

 

[Chrispy_]

I'd go with a 10700k over a 9900k but otherwise I agree.

10700K is definitely slightly faster but aren't the BIOSes for Z490 still a bit of a mess? 9900K and X570 are rock stable platforms at this point.
CPU performance really isn't the biggest issue for video editing, it's storage performance. So any Intel would be fine, but Ryzen + X570 for PCIe 4.0 is the big-ticket feature that tops the list.

 

[dgianstefani]

Z490 is just z390 with some extra pins and better vrm. Z390 is just z370 with a better vrm, which was just z270 which was just z170. See a trend here? Bioses are stable.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

10700K is definitely slightly faster but aren't the BIOSes for Z490 still a bit of a mess? 9900K and X570 are rock stable platforms at this point.

Asus boards seem pretty good bios wise at this point not sure about the other mobo manufacturers..... The bigger issue with the 9900k is even with just MCE its pretty hard to cool which would make me lean 10700k more than anything on top of z390 being a dead platform and really none of the boards being all that great comparatively to Z490 hardware wise.

Z490 is just z390 with some extra pins and better vrm. Z390 is just z370 with a better vrm, which was just z270 which was just z170. See a trend here? Bioses are stable.

the majority of them were unstable during the review process for z490 not sure if every manufacturer has cleaned that up yet and with such a low volume of 10 series chips actually selling its hard to tell.

 

[Chrispy_]

Z490 is just z390 with some extra pins and better vrm. Z390 is just z370 with a better vrm, which was just z270 which was just z170. See a trend here? Bioses are stable.

Yeah, I'm guessing you missed the Z490 launch. Even a week after launch on release BIOSes the major websites and streamers were still recommending people wait for stable BIOSes if they want stability, memory compatibility and memory speed.

 

[Caring1]

You guys are getting caught up in arguing the minutiae and forgetting it's about reccomending a build.

 

[R0H1T]

There you go, bringing your own bias to the fore. Did you even check some of FL studios (employees?) own opinion on this ~

Then you'e trying to shoehorn gaming as another key point in a build used for "work" with a 5k budget? The OP can definitely go 3950x without compromising on gaming, heck he can do 8k gaming with this budget & depending on his usage the 3950x can be easily 2x or better for his work.

From the OP ~

I am not a gamer, but I would love to have the option to do so if I choose. I do music production. FL Studios mostly. I run a program in the background called display fusion that is on 24/7 and drains on my current pc to the point my fans sound like a truck. I also do a lot of writing, uploading, downloading, movie watching, and music streaming. I love to multitask.

As far as I'm concerned he can easily do a 10-32 core build here & not lose any sleep over latency or ST performance. Yes Intel is an option but I'll recommend only 10900k mainly because it will last him longer.

 

[dgianstefani]

Yeah let's do a 32 core build for music production software that struggles to use more than 8 cores.

Yeah let's recommend amd for video editing when Intel quicksync + Nvidia cuda hardware acceleration is significantly faster.

Yeah let's pretend he needs a threadripper for gaming and audio production.

And I'm biased? Lmfao.

 

[R0H1T]

I see you're still stuck up on that one line, why don't you ask OP what he'll does besides audio production or do you thing there's only 2 programs he'll ever run? And I did say 10-32 cores, nice job pivoting to a non sequitur. Hardware acceleration ~ he still has that option anyway with a top end GPU.

 

[dgianstefani]

Op specifies music production and gaming as his use case... Your argument - let's optimise the build for other things.

 

[cucker tarlson]

For video editing you want (in order of importance):

Lots of RAM bandwidth and lots of RAM
High capacity fast storage, ideally seperate from your OS and applications disk
A decent CPU, but the primary focus should be on lots of RAM bandwidth rather than raw performance
A GPU anything that's hardware accelerated, might as well get a Geforce 2060S since that'll do both OpenCL and CUDA.

With your budget of $5K I'd be tempted to look at threadripper and 128GB RAM across four channels but if this is your first stab at serious video editing I'd be tempted to get either a 9900K or a 3800X and see how you get on.

I edit 1080p120 and 4K60 all the time on a Ryzen 5 3600 with 32GB and the single biggest upgrade I had was moving from a SATA SSD to a 1TB PCIe 3.0 4x NVMe.
If I was rebuilding my rig on a budget I'd get a 3800X (best quality silicon for fastest RAM/Fclk speeds) and double my RAM again. The threadripper 1950X and 3950X machines at work can encode a bit faster but it doesn't scale as well as you'd think and encoding isn't the largest part of video editing.

Puget Systems have some good benchmarks for Premiere Pro and the 2060S and 3700X are the sweet spot. You can spend quadruple for higher-end builds and only see 20-30% gains, so I'd say pocket the spare money for now and use it to update the system in a few years. I also use a external DAC to drive my studio monitors because I have yet to find an analogue internal soundcard that doesn't pick up interference from inside the PC.

I can attest to that.
my 5775c struggles in davinci but once I enable CUDA holy crap wind it up and watch it go.

3700x with 2060S is a good match,bud the budget is what it is so I'd go 3900x and 2080S.

 

[Recon-UK]

It makes no sense to really strip back if the guy can use his 5K budget and utilize it in the future, limiting his computer to 1 specific task is a drawback if he can benefit from it elsewhere.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Yes Intel is an option but I'll recommend only 10900k mainly because it will last him longer.

imo 10900 non-K is better,it pulls the plug on crazy frequencies right where power efficiency starts to go insane

 

[dgianstefani]

Lmao suggesting the fastest 10 core on the planet, with framerates in games 30-50fps higher than anything AMD has to offer, with the lowest latency system (again by 40%) and one that can comfortably run ram at 4133+ in a memory favoured use case, is limiting his system to one specific task. Nice logic.