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Is the X570 chipset fan really that big of an issue? I haven't heard anybody complaining about noise. Some have said that it's more of an endurance issue and that it'll get louder years down the road as it wears out.


On my Aorus Master or Crosshair Hero VIII it never comes on other than during boot.

I also dont remember it being audible on the Asus Tuf/Stix E/Msi unify systems I've done.

I think it's only actually neccessary if using pcie 4 nvme drives in raid.
 
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Is the X570 chipset fan really that big of an issue? I haven't heard anybody complaining about noise.
I have.
If you have gpu covering it it's hot and loud as hell.
funniest thing is it can be solved with a 5 dollar heatsink.
 
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Is the X570 chipset fan really that big of an issue? I haven't heard anybody complaining about noise. Some have said that it's more of an endurance issue and that it'll get louder years down the road as it wears out.
I'll say no here. After reviewing over a dozen boards, I recall only one that was loud/audible. After I reviewed this board, a new BIOS was released that allowed the fan to spin down and have user control. Outside of that, few have complained that I have run across in a few forums.
 
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I'm currently hunting a suitable board for my 3700x and h510 that i have ordered.

I have been looking for several days now and any time a budget X570 board pops up in stock, it's gone within hours. Stock is being literally wiped out before it's even present in the warehouse.
As for the b550's i don't think I've seen a single one in stock or order-able yet. From what i have gathered the b550's seem very comparable in price to the x570's despite them having less features.
Perhaps as more boards become available and in stock and the prices return to normal across the board it will be easier to distinguish a clear price gap between the two, but apart from that happening, the b550's seem to potentially be a waste of space.

I wouldn't consider myself an enthusiast by any means I'm just somebody who likes value/potential future value for my money. My thing is personally, sure the gen 4 seems like overkill NOW, but why not squeeze THE OPTION it into your machine if you can do it without paying a premium? Just because not many people are running gen4 now doesn't mean it won't be alot more common/relevant/affordable in the future. I don't upgrade machines or boards very often at all so when i do it's important to squeeze as many features as possible (within reason) even if i think i may not need them. With that said, both the b550's and x570's will support ryzen 4000 so they are both winners in that regard.

I have until July 14th before my case gets shipped so I am going to wait patiently wait until then at the latest but if i see a good deal on a decent quality budget x570 board I'm snagging it because realistically speaking there is no telling when this crazy world and economy will go back to normal.
 
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I find it on the contrary. The only mATX X570 motherboard available in my regular store is the ASRock X570M Pro4, whereas there's an abundance of decent B550 ones. All the X570 features the OP ( @Assimilator ) discussed don't interest me*, so I might very well build my next system around the MAG B550M that you linked.

*: I consider overclocking for a 5-10% extra performance pretty much useless, and I don't need more than one x16 PCI-e slot for my graphics card, and maybe one m.2 for an SSD. Extra USB ports can be sorted out with a hub or an add-in card, and... what else is there?
I think you misread my post, as I said there are NO solid mATX boards based on the X570 chipset and I was disappointed by most mATX B550 boards.
 
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I think you misread my post, as I said there are NO solid mATX boards based on the X570 chipset and I was disappointed by most mATX B550 boards.
Sorry, my bad. With this, I agree. Although, I don't know how good the mATX B550 boards are until I try one. Some of them (e.g. the Mortar) look promising tbh.

It just appears to be a very AMD-esque problem. As far as I remember, every solid generation of CPUs they came up with were crippled by poor motherboard choices (compared to Intel).
 
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Sorry, my bad. With this, I agree. Although, I don't know how good the mATX B550 boards are until I try one. Some of them (e.g. the Mortar) look promising tbh.

It just appears to be a very AMD-esque problem. As far as I remember, every solid generation of CPUs they came up with were crippled by poor motherboard choices (compared to Intel).
I guess it's up to the motherboard makers to make what they expect to sell, but imho, most of them seems to have a rater odd lineup of products these days...
 
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I guess it's up to the motherboard makers to make what they expect to sell, but imho, most of them seems to have a rater odd lineup of products these days...
True. I don't understand why there's a need for 3-4 different "gamer" brands from a single maker. As for me, if a board has a solid VRM, decent cooling and a nicely configurable BIOS/UEFI, it's good to go.
 
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True. I don't understand why there's a need for 3-4 different "gamer" brands from a single maker. As for me, if a board has a solid VRM, decent cooling and a nicely configurable BIOS/UEFI, it's good to go.
they're just tiers.

e.g. asus has tuf,prime,strix and maxiums
they're each a tier higher in terms of quality and features

back in z77 days asrock had extreme from 4 to 11 as well as oc formula.this is the same thing except the choice is bigger.
when I was buying my z97 gigabyte had the gaming line,the ud line and the soc line,each had 3,4,5 boards.same thing here.
point is - going by the line name never bought you the best product for the money,you always had to analyze boards on a case to case basis.same applies here.

ppl who say things like "tuf line is crap" or "taichi line is best" are absolutely clueless individuals.too lazy to do the research.gigabyte z390 and z490 aorus boards are among the best for the money,yet they never get a mention in recommendations.why - cause ppl think gigabyte's bad.same for some tuf boards.but I bet you there's gonna be ppl who'll recommend asrock z490 boards even though they're awful simply cause they heard asrock is good.
 
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True. I don't understand why there's a need for 3-4 different "gamer" brands from a single maker. As for me, if a board has a solid VRM, decent cooling and a nicely configurable BIOS/UEFI, it's good to go.

There's a "need" because "gamer" sells best. Because most people have no taste in things that are actually important.
 
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Does anybody with experience in x570 boards have any solid budget options or makers that they would recommend that i can keep my eye out for over the next month? I'm willing to spend up to 280$ on a board but the enthusiast $500-$700 dollar boards are out of the question. The case is a h510 so it can fit both atx and microatx any input appreciated. Sorry, i hope I'm not straying from the thread but it seems like a good pool of people to ask.
 

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The only features it has over X570 are (possibly, depending on the board) WiFi 6 and 2.5Gb LAN (and the lack of a chipset fan, if that really bothers you). Motherboard manufacturers are trying to sell B550 by claiming it has better VRMs and memory overclocking but let's face it, OC on Ryzen is pretty much non-existent and due to the Infinity Fabric wall there's no reason to want to run RAM any faster than DDR-4000, which pretty much every X570 board does already. And the VRM argument is mostly moot because (most) X570 boards, being flagship products, have strong VRMs anyway - unless you're on a 3900X/3950X it really isn't going to matter.

B550 loses out big time on connectivity, with only a single PCIe 4.0 slot for the GPU and M.2 each. Most B550 boards also have vastly lower numbers of USB ports, and only a handful come with a front USB-C header. And yet they're consistently priced around the same price, or even higher, than X570 boards with better feature sets. Heck, there are many B450 boards with superior IO connectivity!

In short, I don't see any reason why you'd want to choose B550 over X570. Supplies of X570 boards are somewhat restricted due to le COVID, but the B550 launch has effectively been a paper one (the boards are out of stock almost everywhere) for the same reason, so once again it's a moot point.

I also have a strong suspicion that we're going to see refreshed X570 boards, with all of B550's features and more, drop at the same time that Zen 3/Ryzen 4000 launches (still supposedly later this year). Those will certainly be pricier than the current crop of X570, but in terms of features they'll have it all.

I'll be sticking with my 3600X/X370 combo until the next socket from AMD, so I won't be affected, but for anyone putting together a new system in the near future, tell us: what are you going to choose, and why? Do you disagree with my opinion on B550, or not?

p.s. please try not to derail this thread with irrelevant BS about AMD's driver quality and such.

hey, at least you've got the illusion of oc'ing on ryzen. now thats something! %) also like the mutliple menus and options that probably crossfire each other...
 
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they're just tiers.

e.g. asus has tuf,prime,strix and maxiums
they're each a tier higher in terms of quality and features

back in z77 days asrock had extreme from 4 to 11 as well as oc formula.this is the same thing except the choice is bigger.
when I was buying my z97 gigabyte had the gaming line,the ud line and the soc line,each had 3,4,5 boards.same thing here.
point is - going by the line name never bought you the best product for the money,you always had to analyze boards on a case to case basis.same applies here.

ppl who say things like "tuf line is crap" or "taichi line is best" are absolutely clueless individuals.too lazy to do the research.gigabyte z390 and z490 aorus boards are among the best for the money,yet they never get a mention in recommendations.why - cause ppl think gigabyte's bad.same for some tuf boards.but I bet you there's gonna be ppl who'll recommend asrock z490 boards even though they're awful simply cause they heard asrock is good.

Wouldn't it be Prime, TUF, Strix, Maximus (Crosshair on the AMD side) instead? And I wouldn't even really consider the Prime series "gamer" boards, but more of a jack of all trades type of series.
 
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Wouldn't it be Prime, TUF, Strix, Maximus (Crosshair on the AMD side) instead? And I wouldn't even really consider the Prime series "gamer" boards, but more of a jack of all trades type of series.
prime series is big,prime a is better than tuf.
 
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Does anybody with experience in x570 boards have any solid budget options or makers that they would recommend that i can keep my eye out for over the next month? I'm willing to spend up to 280$ on a board but the enthusiast $500-$700 dollar boards are out of the question. The case is a h510 so it can fit both atx and microatx any input appreciated. Sorry, i hope I'm not straying from the thread but it seems like a good pool of people to ask.

I built three Ryzen systems so far. One with a MSI X570, a Gigabyte Aorus Elite and then one with ASUS TUF. The ASUS TUF is actually quite good and its cheaper. The MSI one was cheaper but its VRM aren't really good and thus anything above 3700X may be pushing the board too much. The best one was obviously Gigabyte Aorus Elite but it cost $300 CAD.
 
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I still find this pretty impressive though. Pitted against two of the best B450 boards and really the only 2 I recommended in the past it obliterates both of them...... The Pro Carbon basically needs a best case scenario to match the Mortar being passively cooled by just its heatsink.

This also outperforms the majority of the budget X570 Boards as well for around $159 I don't really see that as a problem especially if prices settle around $20-30 cheaper like they did with X570 post launch.

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IMO the biggest problem of B550 it came too late, AMD should've launched last year with Zen2 or at least a few months later, now they are in an odd situation, B450 are offering good value while B550 are quite expensive. The only saving grace is X570's stupid fan.
 
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Honestly, all this hate for a tiny 20mm fan that I can't hear over any fan in my system.
I have my gfx mounted vertically and tbh I don't know if it even spins.
 
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IMO the biggest problem of B550 it came too late, AMD should've launched last year with Zen2 or at least a few months later, now they are in an odd situation, B450 are offering good value while B550 are quite expensive. The only saving grace is X570's stupid fan.
I disagree. It came at the right time to mature before Zen 3 comes out. I'm for one, waiting for Zen 3 to make the switch from Kaby Lake.
 
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I built three Ryzen systems so far. One with a MSI X570, a Gigabyte Aorus Elite and then one with ASUS TUF. The ASUS TUF is actually quite good and its cheaper. The MSI one was cheaper but its VRM aren't really good and thus anything above 3700X may be pushing the board too much. The best one was obviously Gigabyte Aorus Elite but it cost $300 CAD.

Thanks for the advice sepheron...i've been doing alot of reasearch on vrms and thermals of some budget x570 boards in my range(when paired with a 3900x which would likely be my upgrade a few years down the road) and i actually ordered the x570 Elite like you suggested for 220$. I cancelled the order not because it isn't a great deal but because I'm hoping to score a tomahawk x570 for a similar price if i wait it out and have a little more patience. My case doesn't ship til july14th so i figure there is no sense in rushing a purchase of a mobo until then because i wont even be able to use it.

I still find this pretty impressive though. Pitted against two of the best B450 boards and really the only 2 I recommended in the past it obliterates both of them...... The Pro Carbon basically needs a best case scenario to match the Mortar being passively cooled by just its heatsink.

This also outperforms the majority of the budget X570 Boards as well for around $159 I don't really see that as a problem especially if prices settle around $20-30 cheaper like they did with X570 post launch.

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I agree rufio that is interesting and looks a little more favorable in terms of b550 but the thing is the pro carbon is literally known for being one of the worst x570 boards on the market in terms of vrm and thermals when coupled with a higher core 3900 or 3950. I wouldn't touch the carbon pro with a 10 foot pole after seeing some of the reviews that I've seen. Hardware unboxed did a good review a while back showing how terrible the thermals were and MSI essentially agreed with his findings and launched the Unify as a improved response. Here's the link for anyone who is bored or cares:

Edit* Imagine buying a pro carbon gaming or gaming edge wifi mobo with a 3700x only to find that your board is literally burning up after an hour load only 2-3 years down the road when you upgrade to a 12 core....

I respect msi's decision to agree with the findings and release a improved budget option but in my honest opinion that isn't good enough. they need to literally take it off the market and keep it off or put a huge warning on the box labeled: WARNING! DO NOT BUY THIS BOARD IF YOUR INTENTION IS FOR IT TO BE USABLE IN THE FUTURE WHEN YOU UPGRADE.

That's just my opinion so take it with a grain of salt but i would be PISSED if i bought a msi pro carbon/gaming edge today and went to upgrade to a 3900 in a couple years only to find that its running hotter than the sahara. I don't care if it's budget or not, that's flat out unacceptable. Unless of course they released some magical bios update in the last few months that somehow lowers the temps by about 40 degrees (lol)
 
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It was comparing the B450 pro carbon not the X570 one..... but even if it was the x570 version it would still outperform it.
 
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oh my mistake, i thought the thread was comparing x570 and b550 , not b450's
 
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oh my mistake, i thought the thread was comparing x570 and b550 , not b450's


Its mostly people upset over the cost increase from b450 to b550
 
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That's another story and personally I don't think that's a valid reason for anyone to be upset. The cost increase from a b450 to a b550 is fairly marginal actually and i would say it's well worth the negligible price increase when you consider the increase of thermal performance + gen4 storage. Once again though, i think this threaded is more geared towards x570 vs b550 rather than b450.
 
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The cost increase from a b450 to a b550 is fairly marginal actually
dude are you seeing the numbers right ?

tuf b450 to tuf 550 is 450 to 770 pln

it's 1.70x
when intel does this there's a bashing party right away.
amd does it - negligible.worth it.
 
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