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How many exhaust and intake fans should I put in my casing ?

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I bought a Armageddon kagami k1 case which can hold up to 4, fans so my question is how many exhaust and intake fans should I put to keep it in a cool condition also I need to know whether I can put asus thx 760 in my casing
My specs :
Motherboard - asus h81m-c
Cpu - i34160
Ram - 4x2 ddr3
Gpu - asus gtx 760
Psu - 500 watt super flower
I need to know how many exhaust and intake led fans that I need to put
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Closed front case, oh boy.

I'd recommend one rear exhaust, one top exhaust above the CPU cooler and at least one intake on the front. You'd want more exhausts than intakes on a case like that.

You won't get great airflow in that case.
 
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one fan - get one more fan
two fans - one front intake,one rear exhaust
three fans - two front intakes,one rear exhaust
four fans-two front intakes,one rear exhaust,one top exhaust
five fans - three front intakes,one rear exhaust,one top exhaust.

top exhaust can spin much slower than rear exhaust.no need for it to run at high rpm cause not only the rear exhaust will do most of the hot air exhaust job anyway,the top fan is the most audible due to its position.
 
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You'd want more exhausts than intakes on a case like that.

You won't get great airflow in that case.
No, just no.
More intake than exhaust to create positive pressure, unless you want it to be a vacuum cleaner.
 
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thats a really bad case.


Sell it and get a Fractal Define Core Series case or a CORSAIR Carbide Series case. Whatever you pick you want to pay at least TWICE the value of that Armaggeddon case. Its a really really cheap POS

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Just to make a point. If I really couldn't afford a good case, I'd be making one out of a Shoebox or cardboard box. Reinforcing some places with glue and Extra cardboard and attaching fans where they can get recent airflow
 
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thats a really bad case.


Sell it and get a Fractal Define Core Series case or a CORSAIR Carbide Series case. Whatever you pick you want to pay at least TWICE the value of that Armaggeddon case. Its a really really cheap POS
spc for value cases for sure
 
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Anything above 4 fans has diminishing returns. But in your particular case, there is only one front fan, which if you install a regular 3.5" HDD you can't have. So no front fans for you. Just populate the other three exhaust positions: rear, roof A and roof B and you are ready to bake the cake :D Actually, you can go creative here (no joke), since there is no front or bottom fan for cold air, might as well reverse the exhaust fans into intake fans, especially the rear one. I've seen it done before and it does some better job, than just full exhaust setup. Here is an example setup: rear- intake, roof B-intake, roof A- exhaust. There you go.
 

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The thing Is you can put 2 fans at the top
1 fan at the back and 1 fan at the front
 
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More intake than exhaust only prevents a bit of dust inside the case. Thats it.

I'd load up the front and top/rear and you will be fine. Don't worry about balancing rpms and whatnot for 'pressure'.
 
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To me, this is one of those "I just look pretty in RGB" cases and I only see limited potential for some mild ghetto modding. its obvious there is only 1 ( maybe 2) method(s) to get the best air flow and turning the top fans as intake is not one of them.
 
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No, just no.
More intake than exhaust to create positive pressure, unless you want it to be a vacuum cleaner.
what kind of "pressure" can anyone create in a case that is full of holes? Some cases do better with more exhaust then intake (some NZXT come to mind) but its up to the individual to test that out based on their specific hardware set up. That said you would probably be looking at 2-3c differences.
 
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That case reminds me of the CoolerMaster case I had prior to getting a decent one with airflow.
Temps were roughly 20C higher in that CM case and the small front vents were great at sucking dust up.
 

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what kind of "pressure" can anyone create in a case that is full of holes? Some cases do better with more exhaust then intake (some NZXT come to mind) but its up to the individual to test that out based on their specific hardware set up. That said you would probably be looking at 2-3c differences.
Not much if any, if you use regular dinky grade case fans. A quality case fan should get you a little, industrials have no problem with pressure. My Meshify can bleed like crazy if I let it. Love it.

Edit:

I guess it doesn’t bleed.. but everything gets pushed right out the back with authority.
 
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Does it even have front intakes?
Maybe cut a hole in the floor for an intake fan in front of the power supply.
 
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Wow.. I’m impressed. That case is like an easy bake oven.
 
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Not much if any, if you use regular dinky grade case fans. A quality case fan should get you a little, industrials have no problem with pressure.

You are talking about air static pressure from a fan and I'm talking about the internal air pressure, two different things.

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Does it even have front intakes?
Maybe cut a hole in the floor for an intake fan in front of the power supply.

It has a top and bottom vent similar to the phanteks P400, corsair spec delta, aerocool cyclone, and countless others. If it was my case and I was air cooling it I would certainly make sure that front roof vent is free of any fan so the CPU cooler can pull in outside air and I knock out all those push out pci slots and replace them with vented ones.
 
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1. If you want a quiet system, add up your poweer consumption for all your heat generating components.... then divide that total ny:

50-75 watts for 120mm fans
75 - 100 watts for 140mm fane.

2. Air flow doesn't cae whether fans or intakes or exhaust. The only thing you have to think about when trying to cool down a room ois having two openings and 1 fan. Whether you make it an intake fan or an exhaust fan is meaningless. As long as the other window is open, you will get the exact same air flow.

3. Whether a fan is intake or exhaust depends on where the mounting is

Front = in
Bottom = in
Rear = out
Side = (low mount = in / high mount = out
Top = it depends

For top, radiator fans always blow in no exceptions ... top fans can blow out unless you break the rule below

Intake Fans - 1.3 - 1.5 times # of exhaust fans. Intake fans have filters so they can reduce air flow by 30% of more. If you have fans blowing out on top because you 8th grade science teacher told you hot air rises... did he also say it does when fan blowing the other way... of course not,. When you have more air blowing out then in, thea air will be sucked in thru the wide open rear fan grilles and vented slot covers. Now if you're thinking dust is the problem, ... yeas that is a consideration but the bigger issue is wjhat's carrying the dust in. Normally, that's got to be the hot exhaust from your GFX card and PSU. We test every build with a fog machine and in almost every case .... top fans blowing out result in the case filling up with gog when the exhaust from the fog machine is discharged at case rear. If you cant have more ins than outs, I like to leave the case top fan mounts empty ... this allows passive removal of heat when fans shut off. We set up all builds to shut fans off when GPU / CPU temps dont require active cooling.
 
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No need to overcomplicate imo, that hardware setup wont overheat even with just 1+1 fans 'intake+exhaust'.

My previous system with the very same CPU and a GTX 950 Xtreme was in a 10+ years old plexi side panel hot box case and nothing overheated or was loud. '~15$ CPU cooler and only 2 fans in the case cause I disabled the side panel fan'

CPU was around 50-60 Celsius in games and the card maxed out at 66 or so during summer.
 
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With that hardware one exhaust fan will be enough.
 

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I always go for positive pressure to keep the interior mostly dust free. So that means more total intake CFM than exhaust CFM. (more intake fans vs exhaust). This can be creatively modulated by CFM rating of the fans youre using. One fan in the front with higher CFM rating than say the 2 exhaust fans you could have combined is still positive pressure so keep that in mind.

Next best is Neutral pressure.
 

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No need to overcomplicate imo, that hardware setup wont overheat even with just 1+1 fans 'intake+exhaust'.

My previous system with the very same CPU and a GTX 950 Xtreme was in a 10+ years old plexi side panel hot box case and nothing overheated or was loud. '~15$ CPU cooler and only 2 fans in the case cause I disabled the side panel fan'

CPU was around 50-60 Celsius in games and the card maxed out at 66 or so during summer.
Do do you think that I canam play fortnite with my pc specs
 
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1. If you want a quiet system, add up your poweer consumption for all your heat generating components.... then divide that total ny:

50-75 watts for 120mm fans
75 - 100 watts for 140mm fane.

2. Air flow doesn't cae whether fans or intakes or exhaust. The only thing you have to think about when trying to cool down a room ois having two openings and 1 fan. Whether you make it an intake fan or an exhaust fan is meaningless. As long as the other window is open, you will get the exact same air flow.

3. Whether a fan is intake or exhaust depends on where the mounting is

Front = in
Bottom = in
Rear = out
Side = (low mount = in / high mount = out
Top = it depends

For top, radiator fans always blow in no exceptions ... top fans can blow out unless you break the rule below

Intake Fans - 1.3 - 1.5 times # of exhaust fans. Intake fans have filters so they can reduce air flow by 30% of more. If you have fans blowing out on top because you 8th grade science teacher told you hot air rises... did he also say it does when fan blowing the other way... of course not,. When you have more air blowing out then in, thea air will be sucked in thru the wide open rear fan grilles and vented slot covers. Now if you're thinking dust is the problem, ... yeas that is a consideration but the bigger issue is wjhat's carrying the dust in. Normally, that's got to be the hot exhaust from your GFX card and PSU. We test every build with a fog machine and in almost every case .... top fans blowing out result in the case filling up with gog when the exhaust from the fog machine is discharged at case rear. If you cant have more ins than outs, I like to leave the case top fan mounts empty ... this allows passive removal of heat when fans shut off. We set up all builds to shut fans off when GPU / CPU temps dont require active cooling.
A well designed case will have fans directing airflow.

A 1 or 2 fan case doesnt need top exhaust fans, because...( wait for it!)....heat rises! :p
 
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