How much over MSRP are you willing to spend on your graphics card?

[W1zzard]

With everything out of stock, and prices doing from bad, to crazy to insane, we're wondering.. when you really want a new GPU, how much are you willing to spend for it.

 

[Steve-007UK]

I'd rather go without and keep using my rx580 till it passes out then i will go back to the shite inside onboard graphics on my CPU

 

[dirtyferret]

I willing to go exactly 0.0% over MSRP

 

[TheLostSwede]

Well, considering that MSRP means nothing these days and haven't for a couple of generations, the question of the poll is a bit flawed.
MSRP only means something if you live in the US and can get your hands of whatever reference design that Nvidia or AMD sells.
If memory serves, the board makers said they can't make any money if they had to sell current gen cards from either company at MSRP, so the board maker MSRP pricing jumped up a good 20% for starters, including AMD reference boards.
Then the custom designs arrived that were at least 25% more expensive than the MSRP and then shortage really took off and now most cards are double the MSRP.
One of the shops here that have had stock for quite some time, just added 50% to all their cards today, I mean
I have never seen anything like this and it's getting to the point of insanity and for what? So people can waste a ton of electricity on crunching numbers on their GPU's for some fake currency?

I've paid more than MSRP my entire life for computer parts, taxes not included, but this, this is some new kind of BS.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Less than msrp doesn't matter how long it takes heck I might even do a open box if the discount is low enough.

 

[dirtyferret]

I have never seen anything like this and it's getting to the point of insanity and for what? So people can waste a ton of electricity on crunching numbers on their GPU's for some fake currency?

I think it's a combination of the miners and the scalpers. If Nvidia & AMD are only drip feeding the market (according to Logical Increments the last eight GPU releases were basically paper launches to the general market) than as I scalper it's easier for me to buy up inventory and flip it for increased profit. Once that starts it snowballs because as individual buyers get lucky and find a card for $100-200 over "MSRP" they can then place that card on ebay and make a 100% increase (or more) on the sale.

With more and more stories about scarcity you see a greater demand (think toilet paper and bleach cleaners ten months ago) by the public. I agree with you, I've never seen a scarcity like this in PC hardware where the supply won't match the demand for over a year (if not two).

 

[BigMack70]

I've never bought a GPU for more than MSRP... I'm sure there might be some hypothetical situation where I would, but I've never had to. I was fortunate enough to snag 7970s, 780 Tis, Titan XMs, 1080 Ti, 2080 Ti, and 3090 all at MSRP at launch.

Going forward, I don't think the gen-on-gen improvements warrant scalper pricing. Used to be common to get +70% performance for a new GPU, now the norm is +30-40%. 30-40% performance is often just a few settings tweaks and not worth it if you're stuck paying more than MSRP. At that point you can just be patient and wait for stock to resolve.

The people who really get screwed are the people who typically wait 5-6 years between upgrades. If you don't upgrade every cycle or two, you can easily have an inept PC that can't play games and I'm sure it's easy to feel like "I want to play games and can't so I'll pay the ebay price to be able to play again".

 

[dirtyferret]

The people who really get screwed are the people who typically wait 5-6 years between upgrades. If you don't upgrade every cycle or two, you can easily have an inept PC that can't play games and I'm sure it's easy to feel like "I want to play games and can't so I'll pay the ebay price to be able to play again".

If your upgrade cycle is that long than I doubt you would be currently playing demanding games at demanding settings. In fact you would OK if you purchased your last GPU within the past three years unnder that plan.

If you don't upgrade every cycle or two, you can easily have an inept PC that can't play games

I don't believe the words "inept" and "can't" mean what you think they mean

 

[Liquid Cool]

I never purchase new graphics cards. Perhaps that should have been a choice? With that said, I ticked "I always wait for pricing below MSRP", because in a round about way I guess that would be true if you're buying used?

Long live the RX 580...., oh...and the RX 570 too,

Liquid Cool

 

[TheLostSwede]

I think it's a combination of the miners and the scalpers. If Nvidia & AMD are only drip feeding the market (according to Logical Increments the last eight GPU releases were basically paper launches to the general market) than as I scalper it's easier for me to buy up inventory and flip it for increased profit. Once that starts it snowballs because as individual buyers get lucky and find a card for $100-200 over "MSRP" they can then place that card on ebay and make a 100% increase (or more) on the sale.

With more and more stories about scarcity you see a greater demand (think toilet paper and bleach cleaners ten months ago) by the public. I agree with you, I've never seen a scarcity like this in PC hardware where the supply won't match the demand for over a year (if not two).

Ah, the toilet paper thing happened in Taiwan long before the pandemic, as there was a rumour of prices of the specific paper pulp used for making toilet paper going up in price, so people went out and bought up all the toilet paper they could get their hands on. At least people were still stocked up when the pandemic happened, not that it affected Taiwan much...

But yes, you're right, it's not just about miners, but the whole industry has gone bonkers. Now there are rumours of shortages of Samsung SSDs, there aren't enough chips to make cars and soon Taiwan will be a desert by the sound of all the news reports about water shortage here, which means no-one will get any more chips, or any dip to go with them.

 

[BigMack70]

If your upgrade cycle is that long than I doubt you would be currently playing demanding games at demanding settings. In fact you would OK if you purchased your last GPU within the past three years unnder that plan.



I don't believe the words "inept" and "can't" mean what you think they mean

If you are rocking a GTX 960 or 970 from 5-6 years ago, your PC is inept and cannot play modern games. 1080p medium settings 30fps doesn't count. Cards like that are capable and can play modern games the same way I can game at 8k on my 3090.

 

[_JP_]

I'm in the "<=MSRP" crowd, but voted on the hard limit.
Only time I didn't get a card in that price and overpaid was when I knew nothing of hardware and "upgraded" from a Riva M64 TNT2 to a 9200SE, bought in a general appliance store...to play Colin McRae Rally 2.0.
Right now, there is no "MSRP, not more" (and even then, for the brief months there was, like TheLostSwede rightfully mentioned...), so nothing like saving some coin and lowering the graphic detail level where needed, to be honest.
It's not like games actually look half a decade old for the most part at 'Medium', that justify me paying 1200€ more than what an RX6800XT ought to cost, to have decent 4K performance.
I already went for an RX5500XT, instead of the RX5700XT I was aiming for at the time, for the very same reason (No jumping from FHD anytime soon eiter). In the end, it was still an upgrade as I got a 10% uplift in performance, no more vRAM limit errors, and considerably lower power consumption from what I had before (R9 280X). As a sustainable solution, before a full-on upgrade, I was fully satisfied and I guess I will remain so for the foresseable future.

 

[dragontamer5788]

"Willing to buy" really depends on my needs. If my GPU gets destroyed next week, I'm paying these prices so that my computer works again.

But if my GPU continues to work for the next 3 years, I'm willing to wait throughout all those 3 years for a better price.

 

[Rabit]

-33% MSRP or less* This is my limit I never paid more in my life always waiting for good barging

 

[dirtyferret]

If you are rocking a GTX 960 or 970 from 5-6 years ago, your PC is inept and cannot play modern games.

once again, if you have been OK with a GTX 960 or 970 the last two years, you probably are not playing modern games

1080p medium settings 30fps doesn't count.

Actually it does if the person gaming is enjoying the game; unlike a fan boy's opinion for what constitutes "gaming" for other people

Cards like that are capable and can play modern games the same way I can game at 8k on my 3090.

Ah, so you think your PC somehow entitles you to "enjoy" a PC game more than other people...how childish

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Think you read too much into that last quote but then again you removed content you were criticizing too

 

[phanbuey]

Video cards are probably the only thing I would spend some money on (and monitors and headphones), since they matter so much for gaming I would rather have a 10400F with a rtx 3080 than a 5800x with a 3070 / 6800... So while I wouldn't really spend more than about $1800 for a high endish build, i would have no problem sacrificing everything else for the GPU budget.


+25% over msrp before I start looking at prebuilts or used rigs.

 

[C1ff0]

The me from now? MSRP or like +5%.
The me from 2017 with a GeForce 9800 GT? even 50%+.

Playing at anything "modern" with that card was devastating. Space engineers at 12 FPS....

 

[Ja.KooLit]

Oh well. MSRP is only applied to US market. So it is always way above here in Korea. So I vote for +25%

 

[_JP_]

The me from now? MSRP or like +5%.
The me from 2017 with a GeForce 9800 GT? even 50%+.

Playing at anything "modern" with that card was devastating. Space engineers at 12 FPS....

Thank you for bringing that GeForce 9800 GT into the discussion!
Rebrands!! One trend that seems to have generally stopped and actually gave great price battles in the mid-range market, while providing cool perks for late-adopters of the previously-released gen (like one node down, one vRAM standard up).

The G92/B was mythical in that it had a true identity problem, for instance (not saying it was the worse offender, *eyeballs Thaiti*). But by the time it was the GTS 250, it was a fraction of the price of the 8800GTS.

So now we are seeing mostly new designs that "stick" to price-points like there is no tomorrow.
EDIT: I know brands moved up price-segments for the respective models, with IGPs became as powerful as sub-$100-mark cards making them moot, but the price difference between SKUs keeps increasing. Also, I remember the GTX460 having so many different SKUs to counter the Radeons that you had to go to the barcode to know what you were getting. Not an experience to have anymore.

 

[Legacy-ZA]

I think I am going for a Ryzen 5750, I will use the iGPU until this whole mess is sorted out, I know one thing, no way am I willing to pay more than +10% on MSRP.

 

[Sithaer]

Oh well. MSRP is only applied to US market. So it is always way above here in Korea. So I vote for +25%

Same where I live, MSRP pretty much doesn't exist.
With the 27% VAT the +25% MSRP sounds about normal for me. 'If only I had to pay that much now I would have a new card already but its way over that to the point where its just stupid'

 

[John Naylor]

I think it's a combination of the miners and the scalpers. If Nvidia & AMD are only drip feeding the market (according to Logical Increments the last eight GPU releases were basically paper launches to the general market) than as I scalper it's easier for me to buy up inventory and flip it for increased profit. Once that starts it snowballs because as individual buyers get lucky and find a card for $100-200 over "MSRP" they can then place that card on ebay and make a 100% increase (or more) on the sale.

With more and more stories about scarcity you see a greater demand (think toilet paper and bleach cleaners ten months ago) by the public. I agree with you, I've never seen a scarcity like this in PC hardware where the supply won't match the demand for over a year (if not two).

Don't forget the snipers ... In the social media age where getting likes and thumbs up is a measure of ones self worth, there's a horde of peeps who will sit up night after night trying to snipe new stock... 10, 20 30% is well worth the price and they are on social media before the charge even appears on the credit card.

I find the snipe and resell folks deplorable.

 

[r9]

If the situation doesn't improve eventually the PC gaming market will start shrinking with that the game developer profits as well something will have to change otherwise services like Stadia will take over.

 

[BigMack70]

once again, if you have been OK with a GTX 960 or 970 the last two years, you probably are not playing modern games


Actually it does if the person gaming is enjoying the game; unlike a fan boy's opinion for what constitutes "gaming" for other people


Ah, so you think your PC somehow entitles you to "enjoy" a PC game more than other people...how childish

Your entire argument is basically "people who only upgrade every 5-6+ years don't care about playing modern games"

If you can't see how absurd that logic is, there's no point discussing further. Some people will and some won't. For those that will, paying >MSRP is not an unreasonable possibility.