How much RAM does a PC need for games?

[er557]

Is that the two 1070 ti's? you'ld be better off with the proper sli HB bridge, it's not expensive and does increase performance, specifically so in graphic intensive scenarios

 

[RealNeil]

you'ld be better off with the proper sli HB bridge

You noticed!
I just bought the board (ASUS ROG Rampage VI Extreme) second hand. He didn't include the HB Bridge in the box, but he's sending it to me tomorrow.
This board has one inch wider X16 PCI-E card spacing than all of my other Mainboards do, so I couldn't use one of the bridges I already have.

These two SLI fingers are just temporary.

 

[er557]

Ah ok, so they run @16 16, which is good by itself

 

[coonbro]

my understanding is like he used 2 standard sli bridges so its the same as one hb bridge anyway . so why buy just unless you got money to burn on nothing else in life . you gain nothing but looks funky led lighting maybe not any better off [opinion]

sli = S-udden L-oss of I- ncome

 

[RealNeil]

Yes, 16X16 and it's pretty good so far.
If I can find another 1080Ti like the one that I have already, I can put them on this board without worrying about the distance between them. (triple-slot cards)

my understanding is like he used 2 standard sli bridges so its the same as one hb bridge anyway

Not so. The HB bridge has higher throughput.

 

[coonbro]

hb being solid and cost makes it to it may fit this board but not that board as well and your back buying another to me I'd just use the 2 ribbon bridges one size can fit all if there the longer of the bunch

by the way nice looking rig

 

[RealNeil]

The HB bridge is usually supplied by the Mainboard manufacturer with a new board.
Of course, you can buy fancy LED ones for beaucoup money

by the way nice looking rig

Thank You

 

[coonbro]

Yes, 16X16 and it's pretty good so far.
If I can find another 1080Ti like the one that I have already, I can put them on this board without worrying about the distance between them. (triple-slot cards)



Not so. The HB bridge has higher throughput.

Yes, 16X16 and it's pretty good so far.
If I can find another 1080Ti like the one that I have already, I can put them on this board without worrying about the distance between them. (triple-slot cards)



Not so. The HB bridge has higher throughput.

was tested and reviewed unless something has changed since ? then I did SLI ''once'' but not twice

all a guy can do is what he feels is best in the end . I wonder if its just a logo led thing when alls said and done and its not like I said one bridge fits all so if you change boards with a slot space narrow or wider you buying again

 

[RealNeil]

From PC World:
"The HB Bridge is required, Nvidia claims, because the GeForce GTX 1080 cards pass so much data under heavy loads that older bridges just can’t keep up (the HB stands for “high bandwidth,” mind you). The company says the HB Bridge will transfer data at 650MHz on GeForce GTX 1080 cards compared to the 400MHz that older GeForce cards achieve with soft bridges, such as those that come bundled with a motherboard or GPU.

The older soft bridges will still work, but only up to a point. You can also use the aftermarket fancy SLI bridges that sold with the last gen of cards, but even those won’t achieve maximum potential, according to Nvidia."

From NVIDIA:
The GeForce GTX SLI HB bridge doubles the available transfer bandwidth of the last-generation NVIDIA Maxwell architecture. Count on silky-smooth gameplay for the best surround gaming—only with NVIDIA TITAN Xp and GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, 1080, and 1070 graphics cards.

I haven't tested throughput (and don't really know how to measure such) But since HB bridges come for free with motherboards these days, I can't see ~not~ using them.
I have four systems and three are running (one, soon to be) SLI with HB bridges.

 

[er557]

free? well isn't that nice, I bought two of them for about 60 bucks each, every time I changed mobos, and they were not included. I reckon if you splurge for SLI already, it will be foolish not to have all the available bandwidth, which I need as I play strictly vsynced at ultra resolutions and settings.

 

[coonbro]

thing is theres as much saying not really if any gain it was slight and then that could be due to anything in the margin of error

I guess it another how you want to separate fact from fiction or hype from gimmick or you get all the bridges and test them all ouy for a good months worth looping ...lol...

like I say its your rig to do as you like and you buy, try and hope it don't make you cry , but one thing for sure you will know better next time good or bad
@er557
all sli capable motherboards come with a bridge in its box

 

[RealNeil]

all sli capable motherboards come with a bridge in its box

And the new ones all have an HB bridge in them.
My last seven motherboard purchases had them in the box. Z170, Z270, Z370, both ASUS Crosshair VI Hero, MSI X299Gaming M7 ACK, and the ASUS Rampage VI Extreme has one too. (being shipped tomorrow)

 

[coonbro]

And the new ones all have an HB bridge in them.
My last seven motherboard purchases had them in the box. Z170, Z270, Z370, both ASUS Crosshair VI Hero, MSI X299Gaming M7 ACK, and the ASUS Rampage VI Extreme has one too. (being shipped tomorrow)

I hate to think there being cheap-o and just still send out a old std. sli bridge on a today modern motherboard ..lol then nothing would surprise me with that as well

 

[RealNeil]

I hate to think there being cheap-o and just still send out a old std. sli bridge on a today modern motherboard ..lol then nothing would surprise me with that as well

They're clearly marked as HB.

 

[coonbro]

I know if I order a newer release board and it did not I'd be pissed . that now should be standard issue / default part

seems asus don't want to brag about it nothing I seen covering them hb bridges ?

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-RAMPAGE-VI-EXTREME/overview/

or What's in the Box

• 1 x Fan Extension card screw pack
• 1 x Fan Extension card cable
• 1 x 3-Way SLI bridge(s)
• 1 x 4-Way SLI bridge(s)
• 1 x SLI HB BRIDGE(2-WAY-L)
• 1 x ROG big sticker

so just one of the bunch only is a hb ? oh man ''big sticker'' that makes up for it all

looking at msi and like asrocks seems just the one 2 way bridge is hb as well ??? I guess something is better then nothing could be easy as 0

 

[RealNeil]

oh man ''big sticker'' that makes up for it all

Ha-Ha! You're having fun here!

LOL!

 

[coonbro]

Ha-Ha! You're having fun here!

LOL!

that almost in its self made me want to add to cart ..lol....

 

[Caring1]

my understanding is like he used 2 standard sli bridges so its the same as one hb bridge anyway . so why buy just unless you got money to burn on nothing else in life . you gain nothing but looks funky led lighting maybe not any better off [opinion]

I'm pretty sure that I have read that in reviews.
Using two standard SLI bridges is the same as using one HB bridge, but I could be wrong, now I'll have to investigate.
edit: Wiki confirms our thoughts that 2 Legacy SLI bridges is basically the equivalent of one HB bridge.

 

[er557]

Hardly so, I'm afraid. simply try to launch gpu-z and it will detect HB bridge, not so when using two legacy ribbons. their design and stability is not up to par with the required bandwidth which has doubled. The HB bridge has better connectivity, and internal design, pretty sure I have read that somewhere in a review.

 

[Readlight]

4 GB these games who require expensive 8, 16 is just not programmed well.

 

[rtwjunkie]

4 GB these games who require expensive 8, 16 is just not programmed well.

Someone remembered the thread topic!!!

 

[er557]

No, he simply hijacked the thread and derailed it to talk about the OP main topic, not about unrelated subjects,
which is outrageous...

 

[StrayKAT]

I don't think I could live with 4GB. What am I running? A freaking console?

But you're right.. they really are not programmed well.

 

[er557]

Programming isn't really related, if you want to run AC O on max textures and resolution, the sheer amount of graphics data that needs to be managed is very large, some vram will spill over to ram and shared memory, also when the game is cpu hungry with lots of AI and bots, ram is right there to support the cpu. It's a good direction pc games are going, when in the past games used to be 400mb and today are 100gb. It's simply another level of gaming, not bad programming.

 

[Caring1]

Hardly so, I'm afraid.

I know you can do better than that reply, refuting a statement takes more than a no it doesn't na na na.
Yes HB bridges have double the bandwidth, but what improvements electrically do they have over using two standard hard bridges apart from a manufacturers logo lit up in lights!