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Hynix Introduces High Performance DDR4 DRAM

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really?? DDR4 already! and DDR3 just started becoming mainstream and becoming extremely affordable
DDR3 was released when DDR2 was mainstream also.
That is just the way it works, and it does not mean DDR3 is going anywhere soon.
 
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Yes, this does seem quite premature. With the onboard controllers and IMC limitation, can 2011 even handle ddr4? That socket is supposed to last as long as 1366 did. Just doesn't make sense to intro ddr4 only a year from now.
 

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People always forget that specs and engineering sample comes out about a year or so before actual production starts, and it takes probably another 1-1.5 years for the "mainstream geek" to pick it up, another 1 year or so for everyone else, which firmly brings us in the 2014-2015 territory.
 
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Didn't GDDR4 suck and was pretty much abandonded shortly after launch?

"2400Mbps(Megabits per second), which is also 80% faster than DDR3 1333Mbps product" but its 20% slower than a DDR3 2900Mbps! Who measure RAM like that? Or at the very least tell us what a 2000MHz DDR3 outputs in Mbps.
So many things wrong with this post :(


  • GDDR4 and DDR4 aren't the same.


  • Where did you find 2900Mbps DDR3 (outside of extreme overclocking)?


  • Who measures RAM in terms of bandwidth? Everyone.


  • Tell us what 2000mhz DDR3 outputs in MBPS? Why, it's 2000Mbps.... The "frequency" of memory is how often it can transmit a bit of data. Geddit?

In other news, given the next to zilch benefits that X58 seems to get vs. P55 from increased memory bandwidth, I think we're some way off mainstream PCs needing or even benefiting from DDR4, let alone quad channel DDR4 :(
 
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People always forget that specs and engineering sample comes out about a year or so before actual production starts, and it takes probably another 1-1.5 years for the "mainstream geek" to pick it up, another 1 year or so for everyone else, which firmly brings us in the 2014-2015 territory.
yup they forget that ddr3 came out with 1066MHZ and 1333MHZ alternatives and then worked up form there. So if 1066 ends up as fast as 2000, then starting at 2400 will end up much faster once memory companies begin to tweak the new tech.

I'm guessing this won't be in use until q3 2012 or beyond though considering both bulldozer and lga2011 are going to be ddr3 based.
 
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I think the first DDR3 retailing was 400MHz (DDR3-800).
 
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so it will be next generation of chipsets release quick after x79
 
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who cares the worlds going to end next year anyways so why bloody bother they could've said hey we just invented DDR64 that runs at 200000MHz/mbps but if the world comes to an god forbid grisly end in 21-12-2012 whats the point
 

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And I'm still on DDR1. :(

This was a bit faster than expected though, but we still have more than a year to go.
 
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OH GOD ITS THE YEAR 2000 ALL OVER AGAIN


WORLD ENDING!
Y2K bug!


please keep this drivel out of the news posts.
 

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Um sorry What as an atheist I don't believe that sort of twaddle
As a pastafarian i don't believe in that mayan inspired western twaddle :p

OH GOD ITS THE YEAR 2000 ALL OVER AGAIN


WORLD ENDING!
Y2K bug!


please keep this drivel out of the news posts.
My bad, my upgrade plans go in to 2013 so i have no problem leaving the insanity out of my posts, i was just pointing out how absurd these "end of the world" things are, we should all happily look forward to DDR4 at crazy speeds *thinks of 4.2ghz* :D

I'm curious though, if mass production wont start until the second half of 2012 will there be any jumps in DDR3 speed released before then? or is it around the limit not long after 2ghz?
 
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As a pastafarian i don't believe in that mayan inspired western twaddle :p



My bad, my upgrade plans go in to 2013 so i have no problem leaving the insanity out of my posts, i was just pointing out how absurd these "end of the world" things are, we should all happily look forward to DDR4 at crazy speeds *thinks of 4.2ghz* :D

I'm curious though, if mass production wont start until the second half of 2012 will there be any jumps in DDR3 speed released before then? or is it around the limit not long after 2ghz?
we already have seen massive speeds outside the JEDEC standards, IIRC nothing supports above 1600Mhz in DDR3 without OCing.

DDR4 should support 2666/3200 early in its life cycle, imo, since they usually double the previous generations speed.
 

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we already have seen massive speeds outside the JEDEC standards, IIRC nothing supports above 1600Mhz in DDR3 without OCing.

DDR4 should support 2666/3200 early in its life cycle, imo, since they usually double the previous generations speed.
I thought 2133mhz was the top DDR3 JEDEC standard and somewhere around 2500mhz or so are the fastest modules so it is quite a jump past them but is there not supposed to be a 4.2ghz or so JEDEC DDR4 standard, if so it makes me wonder if DDR4 modules will be hitting around 5ghz.

Though as u said most setups only support 1600 (or 1866 with some things this year) without overclocking so all these crazy RAM speeds are greatly limited by the CPU to the point where things like those 2.5ghz g.skill modules are kind of pointless to most users, i really hope the DDR4 controllers handle crazy speeds well.
 

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I thought 2133mhz was the top DDR3 JEDEC standard and somewhere around 2500mhz or so are the fastest modules so it is quite a jump past them but is there not supposed to be a 4.2ghz or so JEDEC DDR4 standard, if so it makes me wonder if DDR4 modules will be hitting around 5ghz.

Though as u said most setups only support 1600 (or 1866 with some things this year) without overclocking so all these crazy RAM speeds are greatly limited by the CPU to the point where things like those 2.5ghz g.skill modules are kind of pointless to most users, i really hope the DDR4 controllers handle crazy speeds well.
i dont know if jedec goes higher in DDR3, i aint researched it. but generally they double the initial speeds, not the final ones (remember - if it needs more than 1.5v, it aint jedec on DDR3)
 

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i dont know if jedec goes higher in DDR3, i aint researched it. but generally they double the initial speeds, not the final ones (remember - if it needs more than 1.5v, it aint jedec on DDR3)
I thought 1.65 was the max for DDR3 under JEDEC, now I'm just getting confused. To be honest the standards don't matter too much as most of us run our hardware out of spec :laugh: but i guess the standards should show at least what will be available.

I'm sure i read last year the DDR4 JEDEC standard would be released next year but i have not noticed anything about them, am i right to assume they have not been released yet?

If not then i look forward to seeing what they are and if they are out already i need to learn to use google better :laugh:
 

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I thought 1.65 was the max for DDR3 under JEDEC, now I'm just getting confused. To be honest the standards don't matter too much as most of us run our hardware out of spec :laugh: but i guess the standards should show at least what will be available.

I'm sure i read last year the DDR4 JEDEC standard would be released next year but i have not noticed anything about them, am i right to assume they have not been released yet?

If not then i look forward to seeing what they are and if they are out already i need to learn to use google better :laugh:
1.65v is the max that was safe on intels i7 range, and nothing to do with official standards. when i7's came out we had DDR3 running at 2.2v on the really high end stuff
 

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1.65v is the max that was safe on intels i7 range, and nothing to do with official standards. when i7's came out we had DDR3 running at 2.2v on the really high end stuff
You got it in one, that darn 1.65v limit for the i7's just got stuck in my head as a standard even though it's not.
 
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I have never seen memory rated as MBps before, MT/s yes but not Mbps.

Makes sense though given they are basically the same thing to the end user.

DDR advertising is very confusing as companies pretty much always shown the transfer rate as the clock rate. Although to be fair DDR3 1600Mhz sounds much better than DDR3 200MHz......