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I7 3770k vs i7 7700k

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Of course, you are telling me that you missed a headshot in GTA 5 because you got 50 fps with 1600 Mhz memory ? oh the horror, lets throw money and upgrade to 2133Mhz on an old platform so that you get a constant and solid 60 fps. Or should we talk about nekkers getting you in Witcher 3 because well you had only 60 fps, what about aliens in Crysis 3, do a 360 no scope with 95 fps, impossibiru! lets upgrade to 2133Mhz so that you get 98 fps.
Is that a light a see at the end of the tunnel ??? or money wasted on an old platform ?
soo now it's not that it doesn't provide the performance...it's that extra performance for a few more dollars is bad?


say you have 2x4GB and want to go to 16GB without mixing sets.

16GB (2x 8GB) ddr3 1600 kit? 90$
16GB (2x 8GB) ddr3 2133 kit? 95$
16GB (2x 8GB) ddr3 2400 kit? 99$

damn that 5-10$ is KILLER.

Shoot even if you weren't upgrading your ram's capacity you're talking less than 100$ to add 10-12% more performance overall in gaming.

how many people went from a 970 to a 980 to get 10% more performance in games? You can guarantee they spend more than 100$ even after selling the 970.
 
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The more I think about it the more I want to just find a better motherboard and stick with my 3770K running at 4,5GHz (with just a 0,020V increase) for another two years.
The only reason I have an upgrade itch is this damn Gigabyte board I learned to hate (Z77X-UD3H).
 

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The more I think about it the more I want to just find a better motherboard and stick with my 3770K running at 4,5GHz (with just a 0,020V increase) for another two years.
The only reason I have an upgrade itch is this damn Gigabyte board I learned to hate (Z77X-UD3H).
i just lucked onto a dirt cheap i5 6400, and even OC'd to 3.1Ghz (best it can do) its behind my i5 2500k and 3770k in every benchmark.

even my wifes regular 2400 competes neck and neck for performance (6400 does it at under half the wattage which is nice, but still)
 
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damn that 5-10$ is KILLER.
Let me make this clearer, cause that "tunnel vision"
If you are building a new rig go for >2000 Mhz RAM speed but if you have an old platform with 3770k like i have don`t bother.
I faced that dillema myself, decided to add a 2x2GB 1333 kit i had laying around and run my 2x4 2133 kit at 1333 and have 12 GB of RAM rather than sell them add 40-50$ to get a 16GB kit and get 0-12% performance.
If you have money to spend go ahead and upgrade your platform to one with DDR4.
 
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^ mmkay there punkin.
 

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Benchmark Scores well I've fried a 775' P4 12 years ago, that counts?
how many people went from a 970 to a 980 to get 10% more performance in games? You can guarantee they spend more than 100$ even after selling the 970.
most of my friends that had 970 and upgraded to 980 or 980ti are 100% happy with the upgrade, i have upgraded from a 680 to a 980, upgrade has been ultra notable, and reselling the card its subject to regions, not all the places have a market or active market that will allow to sell the card at great price!

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Benchmark Scores pretty fast!
Let me make this clearer, cause that "tunnel vision"

I faced that dillema myself, decided to add a 2x2GB 1333 kit i had laying around and run my 2x4 2133 kit at 1333 and have 12 GB of RAM rather than sell them add 40-50$ to get a 16GB kit and get 0-12% performance.
If you have money to spend go ahead and upgrade your platform to one with DDR4.

12% performance is quite a bit, most people will spend way more than $50 to get it... also I would never put mixed kits together like that, esp with lower performing ram - they have different sub-timings and will generally increase your latency and slightly decrease your performance.
 
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should also note that the 10-12% was based on going from 1600 to 2133.

if he's coming from 1333 to 2133 the performance difference will be greater. Just as it would be going from 1600 to 2400.

again there is a 3100MHZ ddr3 kit, but for the price you could buy a GTX 1080...
 
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I recently bought a gtx 1080 and it works perfectly with my i7 2600k... I have oc'd to 4ghz though.
 

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Benchmark Scores well I've fried a 775' P4 12 years ago, that counts?
again there is a 3100MHZ ddr3 kit, but for the price you could buy a GTX 1080...
no point getting expensive DDR3 at this moment... its better to improve cooling, case, storage or other hardware.

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^ mmkay there punkin.
AZ is Arizona right ? i will come to visit by way of Mexico if you call me "pumpkin" one more time, ain't no wall high enough to stop me.
Here i wasted 40 minutes benchmarking the only games i have installed DiRT Rally, TW Warhammer and DE: Mankind Divided, i also have DoW2: Chaos Rising but a 2010 game is not relevant. CPU is at 4.1Ghz RAM was at 1333 or 2133 no tweaking, also no OC on the GPU.
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Except DiRT Rally where we can see a jump from 80 to 90 fps in the minimum FPS the other two games gain nothing.
Tests were run at 2560x1440, maybe at 1920x1080 things are different.
Will post the entire videos if you people want as soon as i upload them to YT.
 
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AZ is Arizona right ? i will come to visit by way of Mexico if you call me "pumpkin" one more time, ain't no wall high enough to stop me.
Here i wasted 40 minutes benchmarking the only games i have installed DiRT Rally, TW Warhammer and DE: Mankind Divided, i also have DoW2: Chaos Rising but a 2010 game is not relevant. CPU is at 4.1Ghz RAM was at 1333 or 2133 no tweaking, also no OC on the GPU.
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Except DiRT Rally where we can see a jump from 80 to 90 fps in the minimum FPS the other two games gain nothing.
Tests were run at 2560x1440, maybe at 1920x1080 things are different.
Will post the entire videos if you people want as soon as i upload them to YT.
timings are going to be a little important as well as the amount of ram - 8gb is the new 4gb. In this specific situation, unless running a 144hz monitor I would say that you are right and ram will not make a difference. but the performance gain is greater than 0, so faster ram does affect gaming FPS -its probably more of a matter of specific games gaining more than others.

we're all here to improve our FPSes so any extra frames is cool and good and we should all want that.
 

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the higher you OC the CPU, the more benefit from the faster ram.

stock - 1333
4ghz - 1600
4+ 1866
4.5+ 2000+

1080p 60hz isnt too demanding by todays standards, the FPS change will be much larger at higher res and refresh. not sure why people are still arguing over this, as several of us with these chips and high speed ram have already chipped in with results.
 
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I don't even care about performance, but I still sometimes get overclocking itch (back from times where it actually mattered over 10 years ago :p), so over time I oc'ed my 1866MHz memory to 2200. Everything still works and my virtual dick finally got to a metre in leght.
 
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AZ is Arizona right ? i will come to visit by way of Mexico if you call me "pumpkin" one more time, ain't no wall high enough to stop me.
Here i wasted 40 minutes benchmarking the only games i have installed DiRT Rally, TW Warhammer and DE: Mankind Divided, i also have DoW2: Chaos Rising but a 2010 game is not relevant. CPU is at 4.1Ghz RAM was at 1333 or 2133 no tweaking, also no OC on the GPU.
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Except DiRT Rally where we can see a jump from 80 to 90 fps in the minimum FPS the other two games gain nothing.
Tests were run at 2560x1440, maybe at 1920x1080 things are different.
Will post the entire videos if you people want as soon as i upload them to YT.
all the way from romania? that is one long trip there punkin. All because you refuse to accept the professional results and are somehow hoping your individual ones will trump what most of us have known for years.

If you took a gander at reviews on the net you'd see there is no point in your endeavor.

this is a place where we want as much performance out of our hardware as we can get.

your intent seems quite different from that.

might I suggest you switch to console gaming and leave us alone?
 
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It's spelled with a capital R, but yes. So i should believe what some "professional" results tell me, over what i tested on my setup ??? bwuhahaha it's like driving a car at 200km/h but the professional journalists say i can only get to 170km/h so i should belive them and buy another car that can reach 200km/h.

PS: if it is your forum you can ban me, if not it is not your decision to stop me from posting, use the ignore function like i just did.
 

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Please guys, if everyone keeps using the ignore button (and there are a couple not here who have half the members ignored), pretty soon we won't have a forum. Nothing we do on here is the end of the world or worth these hard feelings.

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Right, I never ignore anybody. Even if somebody is being an asshat, I might miss out on something useful they say in the future. I've never seen anybody here who would deserve to be on my ignore list.
 
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When I upgraded my gtx 770 to a 980 ti, I put the 770 in my living room PC which still has a Q6600 and DDR2 ram. It does maybe 5fps less than the main rig did (with an i5 4690.)

Don't bother. CPU doesn't matter nearly as much as people think, for gaming.
 
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It's spelled with a capital R, but yes. So i should believe what some "professional" results tell me, over what i tested on my setup ??? bwuhahaha it's like driving a car at 200km/h but the professional journalists say i can only get to 170km/h so i should belive them and buy another car that can reach 200km/h.
your own results showed an increase in FPS. I think at this point you are willfully ignoring your own evidence
 
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for this guy I don't need to since he put me on ignore. So I'm cool with that.
 

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Memory 16GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 4133Mhz @ 4000mhz 16-16-16-32 2T@1.4v
Video Card(s) Gigabyte RTX 2060 SUPER Windforce OC 8GB
Storage WD Blue SN550 1TB M.2 NVME//SkHynix 120GB SSD//CrucialM4 64GB SSD
Display(s) AOC Q2781PQ 27 inch Ultra Slim 2560 x 1440 IPS
Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Windowed - Gunmetal
Audio Device(s) OnBoard Realtek ALC1200-VD1 @ 5.1 surround
Power Supply XFX Pro Black Edition 750W Gold (Seasonic OEM)
Mouse Coolermaster Storm Octane wired
Keyboard Element Gaming Carbon Mk2 Tournament Mech
Software Win 10 Home x64
I see the reply ban(s) will be coming to a thread near you pretty soon if this baiting continues.
 
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Processor Core i9 10940X @ 4.9GHz
Motherboard Asrock Taichi XE
Cooling Custom loop, 2x360mm radiator,Lian Li UNI, EK XRes140,EK Supremacy EVO
Memory 4x8GB G.Skill RGB 3600MHz C16
Video Card(s) Aorus RTX 2080 Ti Xtreme Waterforce WB 2050 core 8200 mem
Storage 960 EVO 1TB,XPG SX8200 Pro,Micron 1100 2TB SSD,OCZ Vector 512GB,750GB Samsung,1.5TB Caviar Green
Display(s) Acer X34P, Acer XB270HU
Case LianLi O11 Dynamic White
Audio Device(s) Corsair Void Pro RGB
Power Supply EVGA P2 850W
Mouse Logitech G502 Lightspeed
Keyboard Razer Black Widow Ultimate 2016 Edition
Software Win 10 x64
Grab the latest motherboard bios before plugging a new gpu in.
Late reply, but totally unnecessary. My old setup was an ASUS P8Z68-V with an i5 2500K. I was running a GTX 780 on it (well, two of them, then one) and swapped it out with a GTX 1080. No issues, everything worked as it should.
 
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Benchmark Scores Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :)
Late reply, but totally unnecessary. My old setup was an ASUS P8Z68-V with an i5 2500K. I was running a GTX 780 on it (well, two of them, then one) and swapped it out with a GTX 1080. No issues, everything worked as it should.
Some Boards Need this, actually. Perhaps yours was already in the latest bios, or maybe it just didn't need jt. But again, some of these old platforms need to be on the latest bios to support the latest cards for whatever reason. I've seen it a dozen times at OCF.
 
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