i7 920 - i7 960 [?]

[CDdude55]

i've been checking stuff out on line and it appears the difference is the higher the #s [920-950-965-975] go up the higher binned the cpu is and better odds for a high overclock. does that sound about right?

How high a CPU overclocks depends on a lot of factors, but it doesn't matter what model it is. Now some people due in fact upgrade there system to one of the higher models because of overclocking reputation, but generally it's because there currert''lower end'' on won't get as high.

 

[ckoons1]

if i could get an i7 950 for even trade or a i7 960 for an additional $100 which would you do?

 

[CDdude55]

if i could get an i7 950 for even trade or a i7 960 for an additional $100 which would you do?

If you are able to trade your current 920 for a 950 with no strings attached, then i say go for it.

No point in paying the extra $100 for the 960.

 

[ckoons1]

no advantage with the higher multiplier?

 

[CDdude55]

no advantage with the higher multiplier?

The multiplier is locked just like the 920, so you get no easy overclocking advantages.

The multiplier is higher because the clock speed is higher, but you could easily get a 920 up to or past those speeds.

Like i have said before, they're all the same CPU's, just difference clock speeds. Hence the reason they are priced more, so the people who don't know how to overclock and are uninformed think that they have some kind of stronger performance over the ''lower end'' models(920/930). When in fact they could just stick with getting the cheaper ''lower end'' one and learn how to get it up to a higher speed themselves and get the exact same performance or more for a much cheaper cost.

 

[DOM]

if your not going to use ss phase, casscade, dice, ln2 theres no point to get anything above a 920 cuz most can get 4ghz easy and if your just going to use water for benching your just going to get like 4.5-4.6ghz max if your lucky cuz of temps

 

[Delta6326]

as said many times there is no point to go above 920.

also don't for get what assume means= makes a ass/out of u/ & me= ass/u/me had to put that. my teachers told me that all the time

 

[ckoons1]

ended up selling my used i7 920 and got new i7 EE 965. ended up costing me $89 but no biggie I will play around with the unlocked multiplier and let you know how it goes. new toy:]

 

[Jamborhgini313]

ended up selling my used i7 920 and got new i7 EE 965. ended up costing me $89 but no biggie I will play around with the unlocked multiplier and let you know how it goes. new toy:]

How the heck did you get an 965 for $89?

 

[ckoons1]

How the heck did you get an 965 for $89?

An additional $89 plus $ i got for my i7 920 :]

 

[Deleted member 74752]

ended up selling my used i7 920 and got new i7 EE 965. ended up costing me $89 but no biggie I will play around with the unlocked multiplier and let you know how it goes. new toy:]

The heat is going to kill your overclocking ability with that chip vs the 920. Hope you have some better cooling planned vs what you were using before.

 

[yogurt_21]

The heat is going to kill your overclocking ability with that chip vs the 920. Hope you have some better cooling planned vs what you were using before.

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actually the reverse would be true in this situation as the 965 is clocked 20% higher at the same tdp. That automatically makes it more efficient.

 

[majestic12]

If I wanted an LGA-1366 chip that I knew would be higher binned and an easier overclocker, I'd just assume get a Xeon W3520. It works in the same motherboards and has a really good track record for overclocking from what I've seen.

 

[ckoons1]

The heat is going to kill your overclocking ability with that chip vs the 920. Hope you have some better cooling planned vs what you were using before.

Nah no biggie only a few degrees hotter. whole system watercooled- 2 gtx rads. eight san aces :}

I7 965 is just a another toy to play with

 

[ckoons1]

got it yesterday. so far I really like being able to overclock the cpu and ram seperately.
running OCCT test 1.28v 4ghz load temps high 50s

 

[ckoons1]

passed 8 hrs :]
OCCT testing 4130mhz now
passed 8 hrs stable
testing 4216mhz now
passed OCCT 8 hrs stable [was hot out-ran little hotter then I like -low-mid 60s
cpu now lapped
temps @ high 50s-low 60s 4.2ghz

 

[ckoons1]

has any one lapped their cpu and if yes how were the results?
thx :]

 

[Super Sarge]

The multiplier is locked just like the 920, so you get no easy overclocking advantages.

The multiplier is higher because the clock speed is higher, but you could easily get a 920 up to or past those speeds.

Like i have said before, they're all the same CPU's, just difference clock speeds. Hence the reason they are priced more, so the people who don't know how to overclock and are uninformed think that they have some kind of stronger performance over the ''lower end'' models(920/930). When in fact they could just stick with getting the cheaper ''lower end'' one and learn how to get it up to a higher speed themselves and get the exact same performance or more for a much cheaper cost.

What is the multiplier locked to, on my 920 D0 I have Multipliers from 12 to 21 that I can use. I would assume my ability to use various Multipliers means the multipliers on CPU is not locked.

 

[CDdude55]

What is the multiplier locked to, on my 920 D0 I have Multipliers from 12 to 21 that I can use. I would assume my ability to use various Multipliers means the multipliers on CPU is not locked.

At work right now so i can't check what it's locked to.

But i belive it's the mutilpier for the base clock, you can bump up the QPI, but the multiplier stays locked.(as only the extreme editions have an unlocked muliplier as i said)

 

[Super Sarge]

NO in the 920 D0 you can bump the multiplier from 12 to 21, I know I have had one for just a little over a year.

 

[majestic12]

2660MHZ / 133MHz bclck = stock multiplier of 20 for the i7 920. 21 is with turbo. Anything below is fair game, as it doesn't increase performance.

Stock multipliers (not considering turbo, which increases the multiplier by 1 on an LGA 1366 setup)go as so for the i7 9XX series:
i7 920 = 20
i7 930 = 21
i7 940 = 22
i7 950 = 23
i7 960 = 24
i7 965EE = 24 (unlocked)
i7 970 = 24 (6 cores)
i7 975EE = 25 (unlocked)
i7 980EE = 25 (unlocked with 6 cores)

 

[ckoons1]

OK I played with this i7 965 and i have the option of selling it getting my $ back and making a little profit then buying an i7 920/930 or just keeping it
any thoughts ???????????

 

[CDdude55]

OK I played with this i7 965 and i have the option of selling it getting my $ back and making a little profit then buying an i7 920/930 or just keeping it
any thoughts ???????????

How much money are you getting back?. If your 965 is running fine and you're getting nice overclocks out of it, then i see no reason to move down the latter. Now if you're saying that you're thinking of selling the 965 and use the money to move down to a 920, then i say don't so it.(unless you're having problems like i mentioned above.). If you're saying that the money you get back is going to be enough to not only by a 920/930, but also still have a enough left over to pocket, then i say do it. Mainly because you can just get that 920/930, overclock it, and not only get the same or better performance, but also have some money left in your pocket to enjoy.

 

[Super Sarge]

2660MHZ / 133MHz bclck = stock multiplier of 20 for the i7 920. 21 is with turbo. Anything below is fair game, as it doesn't increase performance.

Stock multipliers (not considering turbo, which increases the multiplier by 1 on an LGA 1366 setup)go as so for the i7 9XX series:
i7 920 = 20
i7 930 = 21
i7 940 = 22
i7 950 = 23
i7 960 = 24
i7 965EE = 24 (unlocked)
i7 970 = 24 (6 cores)
i7 975EE = 25 (unlocked)
i7 980EE = 25 (unlocked with 6 cores)

No you are wrong the 920 DO is unlocked you can have Multipliers from 12 to 21 I know because I have used various Multipliers on my Machine ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 1366
In fact if you use the Multiplier of 21 it will boost it to 22 because of Turbo Boost I have seen this on my machine. In the winter time when my room is cool my machine is set up to run 19*207

 

[CDdude55]

No you are wrong the 920 DO is unlocked you can have Multipliers from 12 to 21 I know because I have used various Multipliers on my Machine ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 1366
In fact if you use the Multiplier of 21 it will boost it to 22 because of Turbo Boost I have seen this on my machine. In the winter time when my room is cool my machine is set up to run 19*207

Nope, as majestic is saying, the standard multi for a 920 is 20 and it stays there, it changes itself to 21 with turbo. And from what's in my BIOS i think thats the highest is able to go(max is 21).