Identification of weird FireGL GPU [need help]

[Zeru-el]

Hello everybody,

I would need your help on the identification of a specific ATI FireGL card that I own. Maybe it isn't even a FireGL?

On the sticker, it is called a ATI FireGL V3300 256M
In the Device Manager, the card is named VEN_1002&DEV_71D2, this would lead to a V3400.

The mounted RAM (4 pieces) is a Infineon HYB18H512321AF-14 that points to GDDR3.
In GPU-Z, 256MB of GDDR3 are shown.

According to this site, the V3300 has 128MB of DDR2, and the V3400 has 128MB of GDD3. The V3350 would have 256MB of DDR2.

The installed CPU Chip is called RV 530 GLPRO, I have never seen this before and it seems not to be listed on this site.

There are two DVI and one S-Video outputs. (also different to the above mentioned V3300 / V3400)

The closest card that match the looks of this card seems to be the X1600XT, however, my card has an additional APL5331 SOP-8 Bus Termination Regulator near the upper left RAM, that the X1600XT does not have.

The name "Wieson" is engraved on top of the S-Video output.

If anybody has some information on this card, I would really appreciate that! If you need more detailed pictures, let me know


Thanks and BR,
Zeru-el

 

[Caring1]

Can you post a GPU-z screenshot as well?
Possibly a version of the V5200? as the listed unit in the database is an E.S. and may have changed in the final production run.

ATI FireGL V5200 Specs

ATI RV530, 600 MHz, 12 Pixel Shaders, 5 Vertex Shaders, 4 TMUs, 4 ROPs, 128 MB GDDR3, 700 MHz, 128 bit

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Zeru-el]

OK, I will post a GPU-Z screenshot when I am back at Home!

I have created two screenshots, one without driver installation and one with a V3400 driver installed.

 

[Caring1]

As I suspected it appears to be a V5200 as I linked above, the board number on both matches.
The issue now is finding a suitable Vbios.

 

[Zeru-el]

OK, thanks alot, I will try to find a suitable BIOS for this card.
How did you figure out that it needs to be a V5200?
Because the board numer alone seems to be the same as on the V3400, at least as far as this site lists the V3400.
Could it be that the V3400 and the V5200 are exactly cards with just different Clocks on Core&RAM?
On the other hand, maybe the entry on this site would need be be updated, as the card that I have seems to have 256MB of GDDR3 RAM, and this site shows 128MB for both the V3400 and the V5200.

 

[Naki]

Why are you attempting to change the BIOS of the card?
What is wrong with the BIOS present now?

 

[Zeru-el]

Well in fact nothing is really wrong with the BIOS as it is right now. However, I wanted to bench this card to try to compete in the HWBot ranking of GPUs. My card is shown as a V3400 (but has 256MB instead of 128MB) and reaches 91Points in UnigineHeaven Basic at totally stock settings and is not even getting warm. The current record listed there for a V3400 is 61Points.
So I try to understand to which cards I can compare mine.
And this card is not identified by any tune-up software.

Caring1 (or anybody else), do you have any idea where I could find a V5200 BIOS? I did some google research, but was not sucessful...

 

[Naki]

You do not need to flash the BIOS of the card to benchmark it.
This is a bad approach that will yield nothing, except you may totally break the card, making it unusable.

I am not too sure why you want to compare this old card with anything?
It has only 256 MB of videoRAM, and modern cards have 4, 6, 8 or even 10+ GBs of videoRAM, so simply no way to compare this.
Even a now basic 4 GBs videoRAM video card has SIXTEEN times more RAM, nothing to compare in any meaningful manner.

EDIT: Grammar/typos.

 

[damric]

You do not to flash the BIOS of the card to benchmark it.
This is a bad approach that will yield nothing, except you may totally break the card, making it unusable.

I am not too sure why you want to compare this old card with anything?
It has only 256 MB of videoRAM, and modern cards have 4, 6, 8 or even 10+ GBs of videoRAM, so simply no way to compare this.
Even a now basic 4 GBs videoRAM video card has SIXTEEN times more RAM, nothing to compare in any meaningful manner.

Haha, relax Naki. I see what he's doing and it's an exception to the rules of normal logic or you would be right.

1) he is competing for hardware class cups, not against today's modern hardware.

2) in general, to OC the firepro cards you have to modify the BIOS, as there is no driver level tuning or software that will work.

I have a W2100 OC to +100% and I'm about to do the same to a W4100 later this week.

 

[Naki]

Okay, good luck with that.
If he bricks the card, don't say I did not warn you.

The quoted W2100 and W4100 cards have 2 GBs of videoRAM.
While not very high, this is still much higher than the 256 MBs he has.

 

[damric]

Oh yeah he will be limited to some older 3D benches as any recent ones won't even run. Stuff like 3DM06, aquamark, and such should work though. Actually, even Vantage and Unigine stuff on low should be fine as well.

 

[Zeru-el]

Naki, damric is right
I just try to get the highscore of this specific card. However, it feels like cheating, as my card has double the RAM compared to the listed V3400 cards.
The V5200 card listed there comes with 256MB and this seems to be the category that my card fits into.
In any case, you are right, I cannot win anything with this card compared to modern cards!
And i posses an external BIOS porgrammer, so I can flash and reflash without to much worries