• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Im getting the itch now to build myself a new system

Joined
May 12, 2006
Messages
11,111 (2.10/day)
After building my son a new system and using my current rig listed in my profile for years (take a look), I think I want to build a new system. It might sound crazy but up until a few days ago my systems seems plenty fast and shows zero signs of breaking down. It plays every game at medium to high setting. However, Im wondering how my current system matches up with a new rig. I am looking at spending about $800.00 and incorporating some of my current hardware just to save cash. Is it worth It? My current system seem like it will run forever. It sits in a 66 degree environment all year round. I don't do any video editing any more or burning of DVDs. I just play games and log bills. My current monitor is 1080p. Again is it worth it? Or would you just wait and use what I have tell it dies or cannot game effectively.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jun 7, 2020
Messages
172 (1.19/day)
System Name Yin/Yang
Processor Ryzen 7 3700x
Motherboard msi mag x570 tomahawk wifi
Cooling CoolerMaster ML240V2 / 4x asiahorse fs9002 120mm fans
Memory 2 x 16gb g.skill trident z neo 3600
Video Card(s) msi gaming X 2070 super 8gb
Storage 1tb sabrent rocket pcie4 nvme / 1tb samsung evo 860 sata ssd / 3tb Toshiba hdd
Display(s) lg ultragear 2560x1440 144hz 1ms 27"ips
Case nzxt h510i
Audio Device(s) logitech g635 / creative sound blaster 5.1
Power Supply evga supernova 750ga 80 plus gold
Mouse logitech g402 hyperion fury
Keyboard corsair k55
Only you can decide if it's "worth it". But judging based off what you are saying I would have to go with no. You mentioned it does everything you need it to do and more. so if your practical use is not changing then why should your machine?
 
Joined
May 12, 2006
Messages
11,111 (2.10/day)
After so long of being out of the game Im wondering, if maybe I just don't realize what Im missing. My sons system does not seem any faster than my current system in games. However, sometimes you wonder is it" that you don't know what you don't know". It seems like the computers have outrun the software and games?
 
Joined
Feb 20, 2020
Messages
653 (2.58/day)
Location
Texas
System Name Ghetto Rigs x299 & z490 & Old timer
Processor 9940x with optimus sigV2 & 10900k with optimus foundation & Q9550 with EK Evo
Motherboard X299 Rampage VI Apex & z490 Maximus XII Apex & Acer WG43M
Cooling D5 combo/280 GTX/ VRM water block copper/280 GTX/ D5 Top/Optimus sigV2/TitanXp/Mora 360x2
Memory Trident-Z 3600C16 4x8gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 2x8gb/ 4x2gb crucial
Video Card(s) Titan Xp & 1080ti ftw3 & evga 980ti
Storage 970 evo plus 500gb & 970 evo 500gb many 2.5" ssd's and regular hdd's
Display(s) 1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
Case D450 second floor for 2nd rad x2/ Entertainment center
Audio Device(s) Built in Realtek x2
Power Supply evga 1200P2 & 1000P2 & 850P2
Mouse Redragon Perdition x3
Keyboard G910 & G710+x2
Software Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 pro x3
Hi,
Waited this long wait a little longer for amd 4k series.
 
Joined
Jun 7, 2020
Messages
172 (1.19/day)
System Name Yin/Yang
Processor Ryzen 7 3700x
Motherboard msi mag x570 tomahawk wifi
Cooling CoolerMaster ML240V2 / 4x asiahorse fs9002 120mm fans
Memory 2 x 16gb g.skill trident z neo 3600
Video Card(s) msi gaming X 2070 super 8gb
Storage 1tb sabrent rocket pcie4 nvme / 1tb samsung evo 860 sata ssd / 3tb Toshiba hdd
Display(s) lg ultragear 2560x1440 144hz 1ms 27"ips
Case nzxt h510i
Audio Device(s) logitech g635 / creative sound blaster 5.1
Power Supply evga supernova 750ga 80 plus gold
Mouse logitech g402 hyperion fury
Keyboard corsair k55
Surely you have been around long enough to understand there will always be newer and better hardware coming out...if it's just a curiosity you are looking to itch then you are going to be scratching for a long time my friend.

With that said, if you are looking to upgrade to 1440p or something then i certainly wouldn't fault you for that. The monitor would be a good place to start. If you hardware can already run your games well on 1080p at mid-high settings then theres not much use in packing new hardware into it unless you are going to up your resolution right?
 
Last edited:
Joined
May 12, 2006
Messages
11,111 (2.10/day)
Im just throwing it out there. Are systems really that much faster in day to day use and gaming than my current system. I remember back in the day being a top overclocker and seconds mattered, but I am wondering If I build a new system, will I go man that was worth $800.00. Remember I have been out of the game for years. Lol, my wifes getting nervous about my new re interest lol.
 
Joined
Jun 25, 2019
Messages
140 (0.28/day)
Location
The Heart of Dixie
System Name Forgal
Processor Zen 3 soon. (Ryzen 5 3600X for now)
Motherboard Asus RoG Strix X570-E Gaming
Cooling Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280
Memory 2x16 GiB Crucial Ballistix PC4-28800, 16-18-18-38
Video Card(s) Ampere or Navi 2x soon. (Radeon RX 5500XT 8G for now)
Storage 2 TB ADATA XPG SX8200Pro + 2 TB Crucial MX500 + NAS
Display(s) Dell S3220DGF + LG 32UD99-W
Case Fractal Design Define 7 Compact
Audio Device(s) Audioengine HD3 + S8
Power Supply SeaSonic Focus PX-850
Mouse Razer DeathAdder Chroma
Keyboard Rosewill RK9000BR
If you need a new system today, build today. AMD's Ryzen 3000 (Matisse) CPUs are good. However, the end of the year should bring us exciting new hardware - Ryzen 4000 (Vermeer) CPUs are due then, which should offer a bit of a performance boost. I wouldn't feel terrible if I built a new PC today with a Ryzen 3000 series CPU and a B550 or X570 motherboard.

The bigger change will come on the graphics card side. AMD will bring us their first ray-tracing GPUs (Navi 2x) and NVidia will bring us their first GPUs fabricated on a modern EUV process node (Ampere). If I could live with my current graphics card until the end of the year, I would try to hold out for one of those next-generation GPUs.
 
Joined
Feb 20, 2020
Messages
653 (2.58/day)
Location
Texas
System Name Ghetto Rigs x299 & z490 & Old timer
Processor 9940x with optimus sigV2 & 10900k with optimus foundation & Q9550 with EK Evo
Motherboard X299 Rampage VI Apex & z490 Maximus XII Apex & Acer WG43M
Cooling D5 combo/280 GTX/ VRM water block copper/280 GTX/ D5 Top/Optimus sigV2/TitanXp/Mora 360x2
Memory Trident-Z 3600C16 4x8gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 2x8gb/ 4x2gb crucial
Video Card(s) Titan Xp & 1080ti ftw3 & evga 980ti
Storage 970 evo plus 500gb & 970 evo 500gb many 2.5" ssd's and regular hdd's
Display(s) 1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
Case D450 second floor for 2nd rad x2/ Entertainment center
Audio Device(s) Built in Realtek x2
Power Supply evga 1200P2 & 1000P2 & 850P2
Mouse Redragon Perdition x3
Keyboard G910 & G710+x2
Software Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 pro x3
Im just throwing it out there. Are systems really that much faster in day to day use and gaming than my current system. I remember back in the day being a top overclocker and seconds mattered, but I am wondering If I build a new system, will I go man that was worth $800.00. Remember I have been out of the game for years. Lol, my wifes getting nervous about my new re interest lol.
Hi,
Yes newer systems are stupid fast :)
 
Joined
May 12, 2006
Messages
11,111 (2.10/day)
Thanks a lot everyone. Thats why I always loved this forum. There is always good advice to be had. If only I had invested that $5,000 in AMD back 16 years ago lol. That was the last great advice I did not listen too.
 
Joined
Jun 25, 2019
Messages
140 (0.28/day)
Location
The Heart of Dixie
System Name Forgal
Processor Zen 3 soon. (Ryzen 5 3600X for now)
Motherboard Asus RoG Strix X570-E Gaming
Cooling Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280
Memory 2x16 GiB Crucial Ballistix PC4-28800, 16-18-18-38
Video Card(s) Ampere or Navi 2x soon. (Radeon RX 5500XT 8G for now)
Storage 2 TB ADATA XPG SX8200Pro + 2 TB Crucial MX500 + NAS
Display(s) Dell S3220DGF + LG 32UD99-W
Case Fractal Design Define 7 Compact
Audio Device(s) Audioengine HD3 + S8
Power Supply SeaSonic Focus PX-850
Mouse Razer DeathAdder Chroma
Keyboard Rosewill RK9000BR
If all of us had been smart enough to buy AMD stock when Lisa Su took over as CEO, we'd be able to afford to build new gaming systems on a whim.
 
Joined
Feb 20, 2020
Messages
653 (2.58/day)
Location
Texas
System Name Ghetto Rigs x299 & z490 & Old timer
Processor 9940x with optimus sigV2 & 10900k with optimus foundation & Q9550 with EK Evo
Motherboard X299 Rampage VI Apex & z490 Maximus XII Apex & Acer WG43M
Cooling D5 combo/280 GTX/ VRM water block copper/280 GTX/ D5 Top/Optimus sigV2/TitanXp/Mora 360x2
Memory Trident-Z 3600C16 4x8gb & Trident-Z 3600c16 2x8gb/ 4x2gb crucial
Video Card(s) Titan Xp & 1080ti ftw3 & evga 980ti
Storage 970 evo plus 500gb & 970 evo 500gb many 2.5" ssd's and regular hdd's
Display(s) 1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
Case D450 second floor for 2nd rad x2/ Entertainment center
Audio Device(s) Built in Realtek x2
Power Supply evga 1200P2 & 1000P2 & 850P2
Mouse Redragon Perdition x3
Keyboard G910 & G710+x2
Software Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 pro x3
Hi,
Best hing about amd 4k release is the drop in price of amd 3k series
So you only save more money buying after new releases.
Same for intel but now days amd is a better buy.
 
Joined
Jun 7, 2020
Messages
172 (1.19/day)
System Name Yin/Yang
Processor Ryzen 7 3700x
Motherboard msi mag x570 tomahawk wifi
Cooling CoolerMaster ML240V2 / 4x asiahorse fs9002 120mm fans
Memory 2 x 16gb g.skill trident z neo 3600
Video Card(s) msi gaming X 2070 super 8gb
Storage 1tb sabrent rocket pcie4 nvme / 1tb samsung evo 860 sata ssd / 3tb Toshiba hdd
Display(s) lg ultragear 2560x1440 144hz 1ms 27"ips
Case nzxt h510i
Audio Device(s) logitech g635 / creative sound blaster 5.1
Power Supply evga supernova 750ga 80 plus gold
Mouse logitech g402 hyperion fury
Keyboard corsair k55
If you are serious about upgrading then you could get on the AM4 platform and have a significantly faster/more upgradeable machine for much less than $800.

x570 tomahawk-220$
ryzen 5 3600-$175
16gb ddr4 3600-$80-120$

you could do all that for around 500$ and still have $200-$300 left to put towards a gpu or nvme gen 4 storage if you decide you need or want it afterwards.
 
Joined
Jun 7, 2020
Messages
172 (1.19/day)
System Name Yin/Yang
Processor Ryzen 7 3700x
Motherboard msi mag x570 tomahawk wifi
Cooling CoolerMaster ML240V2 / 4x asiahorse fs9002 120mm fans
Memory 2 x 16gb g.skill trident z neo 3600
Video Card(s) msi gaming X 2070 super 8gb
Storage 1tb sabrent rocket pcie4 nvme / 1tb samsung evo 860 sata ssd / 3tb Toshiba hdd
Display(s) lg ultragear 2560x1440 144hz 1ms 27"ips
Case nzxt h510i
Audio Device(s) logitech g635 / creative sound blaster 5.1
Power Supply evga supernova 750ga 80 plus gold
Mouse logitech g402 hyperion fury
Keyboard corsair k55
yes it is. by far the best price/performance value on the market and i really don't even think it's a discussion.
 
Joined
Jun 30, 2020
Messages
5 (0.04/day)
Location
Sun City Peachtree, Griffin, GA, USA
System Name Nov 2015 Build
Processor Intel Core i7-4790K
Motherboard Asus Z97-A/3.1
Cooling Stock
Memory 16 GB DDR3-1600 CL9
Video Card(s) ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1660 Super Advanced 6GB Edition
Storage Samsung 500GB 850 EVO SSD/1TB WD Black HDD
Display(s) Acer K272HUL IPS 1440P/Acer H243H 1080P
Case Antec 900
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Antec Earthmate 650
Mouse Logitech
Keyboard Logitech
Software Win 10 Home
My system is about a generation newer than yours. I did recently upgrade the GPU and I'm really happy with the system. Although I have thought about building a new system as well. So, to get over that, I picked up a Dell OptiPlex 7020 MT with i5-4590 from walmart.com for $133 shipping included + tax. I put Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on it and am having a ball learning something new.

A new system will be faster than what you have now, but not noticeably so. You would likely have to run a benchmark to see the difference.

Oh, another update I did was to get a 27" IPS 1440P display. I was so excited to get it, but I find the icons and text too small. So, I had to increase the size of things in the setting. I am using a 22" 1080P display on the Dell and honestly like this size better.

John
 
Joined
Sep 10, 2018
Messages
1,557 (1.99/day)
Location
California
System Name His & Hers
Processor i9 9900k @5ghz/ R9 3900X Stock
Motherboard Asus Maximus XI Code/ROG Crosshair VIII Hero
Cooling Corsair h150i Pro 6x Corsair QL120 + 4x Corsair LL120/ Corsair h115i Platinum
Memory 32 GB 4x8GB 4000CL15 Trident Z Royal/ 32 GB 3200 CL14 @3800 CL16 Team T Force Nighthawk
Video Card(s) Asus ROG Strix 2080 ti/ Titan XP
Storage lots of SSD.
Display(s) Asus ROG PG278QR / MSI 27 inch VA panel.
Case 011 Dynamic XL/ Phanteks Evolv X
Audio Device(s) Arctis Pro + gaming Dac/ Corsair sp 2500/ Logitech Z 625
Power Supply Seasonic Ultra Prime Titanium 850w x2
Mouse Logitech G903 Lightspeed/ Logitech G Pro Hero.
Keyboard Corsair K95 RGB Platinum/ Logitech G Pro
Definitely wait for RDNA 2 and Ampere for the gpu upgrade as the current up to $300 gpu aren't very impressive.


I agree though a R5 3600.... Asus x570 Tuf for sub $200 boards or Msi X570 Tomahawk for above $200 boards. ( Tomahawk is gonna be super hard to get in the states ) and the best DDR 4 3600 kit you can afford while leaving $300 ish for the gpu.

Something like this


add $30 for the Tomahawk.


This would be the intel alternative but the upgrade path is worse imo and intel chips tend to be uber expensive even used. They are still very good at gaming and run pretty cool though.
relative-performance-games-1920-1080.png

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HvV6Wb



You'd be likely more than happy for a long time with either.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jul 22, 2008
Messages
916 (0.20/day)
Location
Huntington Beach CA
System Name ROG MACHINE
Processor Ryzen 9 3950x
Motherboard Crosshair viii Hero
Cooling Corsair hydro H115i
Memory g-skill rgb 64gb 4x16gb ddr4 3200mgz
Video Card(s) asus rog strix 1080
Storage samsung 960 evo 1tb m.2/mushkin reactor 1tb ssd/ 3x toshiba 3tb hdd , 10tb seagate
Display(s) Acer 4k monitor
Case thermal take view 71 rgb
Audio Device(s) creative ae-5 sound card
Power Supply corsair AX 1200i 1200 watt psu
Mouse corsair 65
Keyboard corsair k95
Software windows 10 pro 64bit
when I upgraded my system I spent 1400 bucks I like it but I think I spent too much I mean 370 for a crosshair viii hero and 760 for Ryzen 9 3950 CPU then I got a new copy of windows a person can get carried away lol
 
Joined
Jun 7, 2020
Messages
172 (1.19/day)
System Name Yin/Yang
Processor Ryzen 7 3700x
Motherboard msi mag x570 tomahawk wifi
Cooling CoolerMaster ML240V2 / 4x asiahorse fs9002 120mm fans
Memory 2 x 16gb g.skill trident z neo 3600
Video Card(s) msi gaming X 2070 super 8gb
Storage 1tb sabrent rocket pcie4 nvme / 1tb samsung evo 860 sata ssd / 3tb Toshiba hdd
Display(s) lg ultragear 2560x1440 144hz 1ms 27"ips
Case nzxt h510i
Audio Device(s) logitech g635 / creative sound blaster 5.1
Power Supply evga supernova 750ga 80 plus gold
Mouse logitech g402 hyperion fury
Keyboard corsair k55
Yeah, you will have to keep your eyes peeled if you want to get your hands on a tomahawk. I just got one off newegg in the states last night but they have since gone back out of stock and so the price went up. But it's only a matter of time before it's back in stock again. And seeing as how it doesn't seem like you are in a major hurry definitely hold out and do some research and wait for the right board. And i agree with rufio as well, if you want good value for a newer gpu then you should wait on the gen releases before you upgrade in that department.
 
Joined
Jan 8, 2020
Messages
307 (1.04/day)
Location
Maryland, USA
Processor Ryzen 5 2600
Motherboard MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC
Cooling CPU: bequiet! Dark Rock 4. Case fans: 2x bequiet Silent Wings 3 140s, 2x Silent Wings 3 120s
Memory 2 x 8 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3000 C15
Video Card(s) Sapphire NITRO+ RX 5700 XT
Storage 500 GB Samsung 860 Evo, 1 TB WD Blue 3D M.2, 1 TB Inland Professional
Display(s) MSI Optix MAG271CQR 1440p 144Hz, MSI Optix MAG241C 1080p 144Hz
Case Fractal Design Meshify C Black
Audio Device(s) Philips SHP9500 + V-Moda BoomPro
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G3 80+ Gold 750W
Mouse Razer Mamba Wireless
Keyboard CoolerMaster Masterkeys Pro S - Cherry MX Browns
As others have mentioned, it depends on what your standards are. If your current rig ticks all the boxes for you, then I don't see a major reason to upgrade aside from spending money to tinker. If you're always looking to play the newest games (e.g. Cyberpunk) at high settings, then your system will probably start to show its age pretty quick. But if you're satisfied with 1080p and are willing to turn down some settings to keep at playable frame rates, then by all means ride that system til your needs are no longer met.

I'll throw in my personal experience. I built my first rig December of 2018 with a Ryzen 5 2600 and an RX580. Was quite happy with it, holding up okay, etc. But I wanted more - I wanted even higher frame rates and the greater resolutions that PC gaming had to offer. So I looked for a GPU upgrade. September 2019: Next thing I know I'm walking out of my local Microcenter, $750 out the door on a brand new 1440p144Hz monitor and a 5700XT. Very happy with my decision. Personally I feel the resolution upgrade from 1080p to 1440p is worth it, but that's a matter of personal preference. Now with new hardware imminent I'm getting the itch to upgrade once again, but I know there isn't really a reason to. I don't need more cores/threads at the moment, and my 5700XT is still kicking ass and taking names. As much as I'd love to splurge on a X570 Tomahawk and 3700X, there's no need. I feel like I'd be better served waiting for DDR5 and the AM5 socket to come around.
 
Joined
Jul 2, 2008
Messages
7,680 (1.71/day)
Location
Hillsboro, OR
System Name Main/DC
Processor i7-3770K/i7-2600K
Motherboard MSI Z77A-GD55/GA-P67A-UD4-B3
Cooling Phanteks PH-TC14CS/H80
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) LP /4GB Kingston DDR3 1600
Video Card(s) Asus GTX 660 Ti/MSI HD7770
Storage Crucial MX100 256GB/120GB Samsung 830 & Seagate 2TB(died)
Display(s) Asus 24' LED/Samsung SyncMaster B1940
Case P100/Antec P280 It's huge!
Audio Device(s) on board
Power Supply SeaSonic SS-660XP2/Seasonic SS-760XP2
Software Win 7 Home Premiun 64 Bit
May I suggest that since you've waited this long, wait till the end of the year after all of the new products that are expected are out, and the COVID induced product shortages and price hikes are over. Even if you don't go with the newest stuff, the prices should be lower on the "older" stuffs.

You may want to consider just a GPU upgrade, but you're already using one of the suggested GPU's for 1080P gaming. $240-GTX-1660S, $300-RTX-2060 $400-RTX-2060S $300-RX5600 XT (looks like you like a quiet system, so, choose wisely)

 
Joined
Jun 5, 2020
Messages
34 (0.23/day)
System Name Arctic Ryzen
Processor AMD 7-3800X
Motherboard MSI Tomahawk X570 WiFI
Cooling Deepcool Captain 240EX
Memory XPG Gammix 32gb 3200mhz CL16
Video Card(s) Nvidia Geforce GTX1650
Storage 4 - 4 TB Internal hd, Samsung 1tb SSD, External 5 tb (add 1 tb XPG NVME)
Display(s) ACER 32
Case Coolermaster 932 HAF
Audio Device(s) internal
Power Supply Corsair 850W
Mouse Logitech Trackman
Keyboard MS wireless
Software Home 10
Benchmark Scores [url=https://valid.x86.fr/2ypqj4][img]https://valid.x86.fr/cache/banner/2ypqj4-6.png[/img][/url]
I agree the tomahawk is a beast. I have had mine for a couple of days and I am very impressed by its performance. Temperatures are kept well in check, even when OC kicks in - I do a lot of video editing using premiere and handbrake.

Yes, my old system (2600k) was a great computer and still works like amazingly well - I am converting it to a home server. However, for my need the extra cores of the 3800x, better ram and and NVME card have made a difference.

Now, I don't do any gaming per se. I did purchase metal gear solid V before I upgraded (I am a fan of that franchise) and I really do not notice a difference CPU wise. However, I did notice a big improvement with a newer GPU - now that is not saying my 750ti couldn't handle it.

I would listen to all the great advice here. Wait and see what the new Ryzen can do. In my case I just took the plunge after 6 mos 'thinking' and my biggest decision driver was video editing.
 
Joined
Oct 21, 2005
Messages
5,979 (1.09/day)
Location
USA
System Name Small ATX Desktop
Processor Intel i5 8600K
Motherboard Asrock Z370 Taichi
Cooling Phanteks PH-TC14PE CPU HSF, Arctic MonoPlus VGA HSF
Memory G-Skill TridentZ 2X8GB F4-3200C14D-16GTZ
Video Card(s) Zotac 1060 6GB Mini ZT-P10600A-10L
Storage Samsung 970 Pro 512GB NVMe, Phison E12 NVMe 1TB, 1xWD4005FZBX, 2xWD10EZEX
Display(s) Dell S3220DGF 32" 2560x1440 165Hz
Case Lian Li PC A05NB
Audio Device(s) Audiotechnica ATH M50X, Antlion Mod Mic 4, SYBA SD-CM-UAUD, Behringer Xenyx 302USB
Power Supply Seasonic SS-660XP2 660 Watt Platinum
Mouse Zowie EC2A Mouse on Corsair MM600
Keyboard Filco Majestouch 2 Tenkeyless Red
Software Win 10 LTSC 1809
The big difference between a modern system and your current system is more cores, much more powerful graphics, and faster storage options (NVMe)
 
Joined
Mar 10, 2010
Messages
8,309 (2.14/day)
Location
Manchester uk
System Name RyzenGtEvo/ Asus strix scar II
Processor Amd R7 3800X@4.350/525/ Intel 8750H
Motherboard Crosshair hero7 @bios 2703/?
Cooling 360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu Monoblock Gpu full cover all EK
Memory Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in two sticks./16Gb
Video Card(s) Sapphire refference Rx vega 64 EK waterblocked/Rtx 2060
Storage Samsung Nvme Pg981, silicon power 1Tb samsung 840 basic as a primocache drive for, WD2Tbgrn +3Tbgrn,
Display(s) Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync, LG 49" 4K 60hz ,Oculus
Case Lianli p0-11 dynamic
Audio Device(s) Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset
Power Supply corsair 1200Hxi
Mouse Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless
Keyboard Roccat Iksu force fx
Software Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores 8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506
Woah, I would hold there's always something better ahead yes but with the new better ,all that was becomes cheaper.
You aren't struggling now so why bother, in a year when you are bothered you would get much more for less.

Part up, buy a nvme and a pciex adapter ,you can use it now, it'll demonstrate some new performance, can be carried over.

Then when rocket lake and Ryzen 4000 is out your half set.

And those really will feel like an upgrade and be reasonably future proof what with pciex4.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Mar 18, 2015
Messages
2,797 (1.36/day)
Location
Long Island
After building my son a new system and using my current rig listed in my profile for years (take a look), I think I want to build a new system. It might sound crazy but up until a few days ago my systems seems plenty fast and shows zero signs of breaking down. It plays every game at medium to high setting. However, Im wondering how my current system matches up with a new rig. I am looking at spending about $800.00 and incorporating some of my current hardware just to save cash. Is it worth It? My current system seem like it will run forever. It sits in a 66 degree environment all year round. I don't do any video editing any more or burning of DVDs. I just play games and log bills. My current monitor is 1080p. Again is it worth it? Or would you just wait and use what I have tell it dies or cannot game effectively.
With prices haven risnen so sharply in recent weeks, due to oandemic and relations with China, I would say no .... I would wait until the new platforms are released, the 1st and 2nd steppings have been flushed from the market and hopefully, international trade recovers after Novemebr elections.

I see no point in "upgrading" your system remains quite viable and can be repurposed to a family member o r friend ... or just to have a spare box when one PC is on the fritz.

The best advice I can give you is ignore technology boast type of advice.... A smaller die size, does not provide a performance advantage. More cores do not provide a performance advantage unless you use apps that can take advantage of them.

Let's look at your usage and see how they measure up ... I'll pick the $400 CPU price point as it the most common we'ye get involved with. These are your three stated applications:

Gaming:
Financial (Quickbooks ?):
Perhaps a small chance of getting back to video Editing:

Overall Gaming is 8.3% faster compared to the 3900x

Financial programs are basically spreadsheets with a GUI added and the 3900x takes 5.8% more time to complete tasks than the 10700k

Video Editing on the 3900x takes 6,6% longer compared to the 10700k

Photo Editing on the 10700k is 14.9% faster compared to the 3900x

Overclocking can double those non-gaming numbers

We can't guess what the performance or cost numbers will be when the new generation CPUs will be released. The point here is .... Look at the numbers ; the ONLY thing that is relevant in YOUR choice is how the CPU performs in the applications you use ... in the case above, it would be Intel. Look Rendering and you will see that AMD kicks ass there, but if you are not doing that, it's irreleavnt to YOUR build choices

Looking at the $200 price point, that's the i5-10500 vs the Ryzen 3300X

Gaming - 10500 = 100% / 3300x = 92.3% / 3600c ($220) = 94.2% / 3700X ($275) = 95.5% / 3900X ($420) = 96.8%
Its real hard to make a case for an AMD based build if your only application of note is gaming

Spreadsheets ... you'd have to get a $3700x to bet the 10500 in math

AMD doesnt have anything that beats the 10500 in photo or video editing

=========================

Moving onto the GPU side ... and considering performance, noise, power and operating temps ... the price niche that AMD makes its strongest showing a is the 5600 XT where the models ya want are costing $280 - $300. That puts it in between the 1660 Super ($230 - $270) and the 2060 Super at $375. The original 2060 (6% faster MSI Gaming X vs MSI Gaming X 5600 XT) is on par performance and price wise with the 5600 XT but low stock means prices vary significantly daily. Expect the 2060 to go up as time goes on. Power consumption favor the 5600 XT by about 10 watts

The thing that stands out for 5600XT is that this is the 1st time in about 10 years where AMD came up with lower operating teams for comparable performance w/ 61C vs 68C under load w/ OC. AMD also wins with fan noise by 2 dbA (31 vs 29) . So I can't say enough about the surprise that is the 5600 XT but I can't get behind any of the other AMD offerings in higher price niches.

However, all that being said ... everything is just too expensive at this point in time ... so while it's fun to speculate, my advice remains:

1. Wait for next gen CPus / MoBos / GPUs
2. Wait for the pandemic to subside and world trade to stabilize
3. By the time both of those have happened, we should be into 2nd or 3rd steppings free from the bugs in the 1st ones and with better chances in the silicon lottery as production lines finish their tweaking stages.
 
Top