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yes but i dont want to wait a year am hot to upgrade now
also i believe the 4970k will be very expensive
also the first wave of buyers will be like beta testers lots of guys are still recommending the z77 over the z87 for stability .
 
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If that extra 1GB of ram is very important to you then go with the R9 280X. It also has 384 bit memory bus vs the 256 bit bus of the GTX 770.
As I said they are very similar so there no wrong answer.
Those MSI R9 280X do have a reputation of having the fans leak oil though so I'd go with a different brand R9 280X if you do go with that over the GTX 770, maybe Asus or Sapphire.
very good advice , i guess the gtx 770 made a big mistake not going 3gb they went greedy to make the 4 gb model
they should have made one 770 gtx with 3 gb ram but that is nividia
amd is more decent at this point selling the card with 3 gb ram its even 30 dollars cheaper than the asus 770
that one gb is not important to me but i intend to keep this card for 2 years and games started to ask for 3 gb already
the habit runs that soon the other games will follow and the 2gb will be under border land for recommended


https://www.google.com.eg/#q=msi 280x fan lickage

hehe very good advise indeed , i was going for it . it would have leaked oil on my mb
circuits . dunno what is the thing with msi heat sink i bought an msi 460 hawk 2 years ago and the heat sink wasnt even installed correctly a direct RMA

http://www.asus.com/us/Graphics_Cards/GTX770DC2OC2GD5/

look how pretty
 
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they will buy my p5q pro/4gb ram/e8500/ for 71 $

and my 6870 for 71 $

should i go for it ? i need some refund
 
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6870 is worth around $100. The rest should be worth about $150-200. Combined, you are only getting back about half its value.
 
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yes but my mb was defected when it first came and dose not plays dual channel memory only single channel.
and my cpu heat sink fan is busted his already paying around 85$ for the gpu . i oced the cpu for 3 years to 4ghz
that hardware is really used since 2009 and as you see the market is over flooded with new and old chips . i guess ill push on
with it better than going in rounds . he dosnt seem to want to bargain
 
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H80i will probably be the most painless, the NH-D14 takes up a lot of space. The pump on the i series kinda sucks. I don't know about the thermaltake or the coolermaster, I'd bet on the coolermaster being good except its a 140mm fan, get the 120mm one.

NH-D14 will probably perform the best but it is a monster. I like my Phanteks PHTC12DX, you could look into that.
 
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My vote goes to the cosair one..
 
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yes that 770 gtx asus looks really good i never liked the gigabyte 3 fans . 3 fans are a lot the pipes are better plus the ausu mb will have better communication with it .
but the gigabyte is a bit oced than it but i guess not by much . ill get this one

http://www.asus.com/us/Graphics_Cards/GTX770DC2OC2GD5/

what about the rams ? should i get the higher ? 2133
The Asus DirectCU cards do not benefit from having an Asus board, that would be the Matrix cards, paired with an ROG board.
 
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Just see the benchmark 770 is slightly slower than r9 280X, BUT Techpoweup team rates 770 9.6 and 280x as 8/2, so I would recommend strongly to go for 770 even if it is a little slower for more proof
cons of 280x
  • Very noisy during gaming
  • Low memory overclocking potential
  • High power consumption
BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S UP TO YOU, WHETHER YOU ARE ON THE GREEN OR RED TEAM! also games determine what tam you want to be on games like battlefield, crysis etc favour nvidia and games like AC, BATMAN etc favour NVIDIA, you can't really go wrong in buying anyone of these, if you really want 3gb of ram, the problem is that 770 is not available in 3gb only for 2 and 4gb so your only option would be 280x as 770 4gb is a complete waste
 

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yeah look at it this way those 2 gpus are not good handling more than 2 gb or ram anyway and the
770 gtx 4 gb is just the proof on that the extra 1 g ram on the 280x is a bait to beat the better 770

still this screen is confusing

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/battlefield_4_vga_graphics_performance_benchmark,11.html

humm 2,5 vram on high , what if games started to pump that ram up ? ill be behind recommended
games req by next year ?

its ok with some noise in game with my head set on and my win amp is on death fm channel
i am not planing to oc those 2 cards are stretched anyway lots of risks for few frame rate
i nearly ruined my 6870 for 4 or 5 fps lots of messing with fan controls also
cpu oc is cool but vga not that good and am not worried about the electricity company
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yeah look at it this way those 2 gpus are not good handling more than 2 gb or ram anyway and the
770 gtx 4 gb is just the proof on that the extra 1 g ram on the 280x is a bait to beat the better 770

still this screen is confusing

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/battlefield_4_vga_graphics_performance_benchmark,11.html

humm 2,5 vram on high , what if games started to pump that ram up ? ill be behind recommended
games req by next year ?

its ok with some noise in game with my head set on and my win amp is on death fm channel
i am not planing to oc those 2 cards are stretched anyway lots of risks for few frame rate
i nearly ruined my 6870 for 4 or 5 fps lots of messing with fan controls also
cpu oc is cool but vga not that good and am not worried about the electricity company
also
Like I said you can't really do wrong here, RAM usage is completely based on size and quality of textures and doesn't really have any performance impact (fps), I still don't think there is even point in going with 3GB card if you are gaming at 1080p, only SLI would be able to max out..if you see iin your own benchmark there, RAM USAGE IS <2GB at ULTRA 4XMSAA AT 1440P..personally I think that none of the other games will exert more usage of GDDR5 THAN BF3, Still decision is yours fr the coming 2 years at least you should be able to max out with AA every game excluding 1 or 2 AAA TITLES, also I really discourage SLI just gget the fastest single card that you can buy use it then upgrade with a new card..

http://www.egprices.com/en/category/computers/memory?cat=1&sub=112&sortby=price_desc

what ram would you pick ? lol i guess the beast 16 gb 2400 looks interesting
There is no real point in getting anything above 2100mhz even 1600mhz is MORE THAN ENOUGH for the best of AAA Titles, RAM doesn't have a real impact in gaming performance..go with Gskill RipjawsX or Cosair (may fave problem due to extended hieght of corsair vengeance RAMs),Must see vid
 
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the difference is small not to get the 2400

is the g skill better than the hyper beast ? i thought Kingston is better . the corsair is way too expensive
 

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the difference is small not to get the 2400

is the g skill better than the hyper beast ? i thought Kingston is better . the corsair is way too expensive
G. Skill Trident X stuff is solid. 2133mhz memory is typically the sweet spot.
 
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GSkill has released various series of models over the years, the Ripjaws were a early model the Ripjaws X cam e out aimed at the 1155/P67-Z68, Ripjaws Z a little oriented towards true quad channel and the X79 platform, Snipers were somewhat General sticks that are very strong, Ares again are basically general sticks, the Trident X line was released during the Ivy Bridge era in lower freq, though aimed towards Haswell, the higher freq Trident X weren't released until the release of Haswel

Trident X is designed for Z77, Z87.

RipJaws Z is designed for X79.
 
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what is the main benefit of getting the z87 deluxe on the z87 pro ?
 
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